Transformative Multi-Year Expansion Announced for WDS Paris

[britain]

The ticket designations are not thought about purely in isolation. The reason they continue to be used both inside Disney and elsewhere is to convey a sense of scope and scale.

Sure, but relative scope and scale.

If Rise of the Resistance had opened this month along with FEA, the designations would be Rise is the E, FEA is the D of the expansion. Without Rise, FEA becomes the E.

 

[britain]

The Ticket designations historically fit this relative perception too. Many an E-ticket in the 1960's and 1970's were demoted down to lower tiers as newer, shinier attractions were added. It's not like the old attractions literally "lost scope and scale". They just became less of a draw in comparison to the new E-tickets.

EDIT: I was wrong, while there were some demotions and adjustments for other attractions, it doesn’t look like there were any E ticket attractions that became D ticket attractions.

 

[lazyboy97o]

Sure, but relative scope and scale.

If Rise of the Resistance had opened this month along with FEA, the designations would be Rise is the E, FEA is the D of the expansion. Without Rise, FEA becomes the E.

No, they are not used in that sort of isolated context. They’re an industry terminology that has wider meaning outside a single project or park.

 

[britain]

No, they are not used in that sort of isolated context. They’re an industry terminology that has wider meaning outside a single project or park.

It's an industry term that is used relatively. When Indy opened in '95 they said this was an F ticket. Would that exact same attraction warrant that designation today?

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

It's an industry term that is used relatively. When Indy opened in '95 they said this was an F ticket. Would that exact same attraction warrant that designation today?

That’s how E tickets came about - the Matterhorn, Submarine, and Monorail were sooooo much better than anything else at Disneyland they had to create a new tier!

Even today at Disneyland I’d consider Indiana Jones and Rise to be “F” tickets vs. everything else in the park.

 

[britain]

That’s how E tickets came about - the Matterhorn, Submarine, and Monorail were sooooo much better than anything else at Disneyland they had to create a new tier!

Even today at Disneyland I’d consider Indiana Jones and Rise to be “F” tickets vs. everything else in the park.

Yes, but the Subs didn’t stay there, did they? They were demoted by the time Space Mountain came around.

Monorail is a moot point because it became a Disneyland hotel transportation service. But Matterhorn is interesting because it supports my argument: It retained its designation as an E until the ticket book system was retired - not because it was as good as the other E’s across the world (Spaceship Earth anyone?) but because it was the most popular draw in Fantasyland.

(I think. I don’t have any of the dates in front of me, so all of this is based on my memory).

The fact that you would still consider Indy an F just goes to show how subjective this all is. Not because I disagree (I also think Indy & Rise are the best rides at DL) but because it shows that these aren’t industry terms that correspond to anything empirically measurable. They are industry terms used to create vibes.

One wonders if “premium ultra super lightning lane” or whatever they call it now will over time replace the term?

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

Yes, but the Subs didn’t stay there, did they? They were demoted by the time Space Mountain came around.

Monorail is a moot point because it became a Disneyland hotel transportation service.

Unless I’m mistaken… both the submarine and the monorail were E tickets until ticket books were retired. They never lost the status. Neither did Tiki Room or Country Bears.

 

[britain]

Unless I’m mistaken… both the submarine and the monorail were E tickets until ticket books were retired. They never lost the status. Neither did Tiki Room or Country Bears.

Ok, had to look it up. You got me on all counts. I knew I was playing with fire to simply go by my memory.

 

[lazyboy97o]

Unless I’m mistaken… both the submarine and the monorail were E tickets until ticket books were retired. They never lost the status. Neither did Tiki Room or Country Bears.

The Enchanted Tiki Room was demoted to E-Ticket. It originally required its own separate ticket that cost more than the E-Tickets.

 

[britain]

The Enchanted Tiki Room was demoted to E-Ticket. It originally required its own separate ticket that cost more than the E-Tickets.

Whoa! Tiki Room was the original F-ticket!?

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

The Enchanted Tiki Room was demoted to E-Ticket. It originally required its own separate ticket that cost more than the E-Tickets.

Whoa! I was looking that up after your post and didn’t realize Tiki Room was owned by Retlaw!!!!

 

[britain]

Whoa! I was looking that up after your post and didn’t realize Tiki Room was owned by Retlaw!!!!

Hence "WALT DISNEY'S Enchanted Tiki Room!"

 

[Movielover]

Whoa! I was looking that up after your post and didn’t realize Tiki Room was owned by Retlaw!!!!

So the Tiki Room was under new management before the Tiki Room was Under New Management?!?!?

 

[McMickeyWorld]

I didn’t think I’d like it more than the HK version, but I feel like being more open makes it more charming and natural. Its connection to the lagoon’s backstage enhances the forced perspective and creates the feeling of being in a natural forest, unlike HK where the roller coaster makes the land feel more compressed.

 

[IMDREW]

Where would the entrance to the 3rd land be? Right now Terrasse Panoramique sits right in front, I doubt they'd demolish that. The land would also sit farther back than Frozen and Lion King, which sort of flow out all the way to the water edge.

 

[Aramar]

Where would the entrance to the 3rd land be? Right now Terrasse Panoramique sits right in front, I doubt they'd demolish that. The land would also sit farther back than Frozen and Lion King, which sort of flow out all the way to the water edge.

Probably where the gates are right now, between Terrasse Panoramique et les 3 food kiosks. That would allow to create a path that wanders through the dense jungle of Pandora or Motonoui.

 

[marni1971]

Whoa! Tiki Room was the original F-ticket!?

Ha. No.

 

[EPCOTCenterLover]

With Lion King coming, that's two water rides next to each other. Interesting design choice.

 

[parksandtravel]

Probably where the gates are right now, between Terrasse Panoramique et les 3 food kiosks. That would allow to create a path that wanders through the dense jungle of Pandora or Motonoui.

A Pandora land with FoP-type ride and a banshee coaster would be good.

 

[ToTBellHop]

A Pandora land with FoP-type ride and a banshee coaster would be good.

When has Paris ever built an expansion with two worthwhile rides?