MagicBands to be used in place of parking permit paperwork for resort guests

[jakeman]

Disney trying to actually put together a Reedy Creek Improvement District, Bay Lake and/or Lake Buena Vista police force would probably result in the Reedy Creek Improvement District being dissolved by the state legislature.

Oh come now...there is nothing dystopian about a private corporation trying to put together it's own police force.

Wait...isn't that the plot of Robocop?

 

[cspencer96]

Disney trying to actually put together a Reedy Creek Improvement District, Bay Lake and/or Lake Buena Vista police force would probably result in the Reedy Creek Improvement District being dissolved by the state legislature.

Yeah, I think the only way that RCID has been allowed to continue the way it has without the whole EPCOT plan going through is that it's mutually beneficial for all parties involved, and Disney isn't totally autonomous in terms of law enforcement and other things that a private company probably shouldn't get involved in. If they moved beyond that, it wouldn't last another year - and that's just for the red tape to shut it down.

 

[reptar77]

So they are now going to scan everyone's bands at the toll plaza instead of having something easy to identify and just wave us through? That makes things more difficult, not easier.

Agreed!!

 

[MarkTwain]

So they are now going to scan everyone's bands at the toll plaza instead of having something easy to identify and just wave us through? That makes things more difficult, not easier.

Yep. At this point it sounds like they're just trying to find ways to justify the MM+ price tag. As you said, it's really just making things harder — the opposite of what the bands were implemented to do.

 

[Flight Safety]

I hope this eventually means passholders will be able to do the same...scan their band for parking...and discounts. Having to still carry around a card sort of defeats the ease of using the band.

This...

I wonder if this is a continued crackdown on using the resort parking here to access the Intl Gateway entrance to Epcot? So if your MB doesn't have you as a guest of the resort, and you don't have a ADR... then you don't get it?

Theres a lot to do @ Boardwalk that doesn't require ADR, so hopefully this isn't the case.

So they are now going to scan everyone's bands at the toll plaza instead of having something easy to identify and just wave us through? That makes things more difficult, not easier.

Yea, I can see myself now pulling up with my arm out the window waiting for a scan... But possibly maybe they could have a scanner already out there, and you just wait for a green light instead of waiting for a CM to wave you through?

 

[CDavid]

Disney trying to actually put together a Reedy Creek Improvement District, Bay Lake and/or Lake Buena Vista police force would probably result in the Reedy Creek Improvement District being dissolved by the state legislature.

Oh come now...there is nothing dystopian about a private corporation trying to put together it's own police force.

There have long been corporations with their own police force - not just security, but with actual 'police' powers. They're known as the railroad police, and they still exist today.

So long as Reedy Creek didn't greatly overstep its bounds, why would the state legislature be so opposed to the idea of Disney doing something similar?

 

[lazyboy97o]

There have long been corporations with their own police force - not just security, but with actual 'police' powers. They're known as the railroad police, and they still exist today.

So long as Reedy Creek didn't greatly overstep its bounds, why would the state legislature be so opposed to the idea of Disney doing something similar?

Because of the lawsuit @fillerup mentioned. Disney Security was pretty much acting like a police force, and a very aggressive one at that. Part of the results of that law suit was Disney Security acting more like traditional private security and the respective sheriffs offices being on property in a more active role. Maybe enough people have moved into the area for widespread anger to have died down, but the power brokers of the Orlando attractions industry probably have not. The Reedy Creek Improvement District has been threatened before (it's never been very popular after Walt died and Eisner made the situation worse) and Disney head back towards a line they were told not to get near would be a great reason to revoke the grand powers handed over to secure the never built EPCOT.

 

[SJFPKT]

Because of the lawsuit @fillerup mentioned. Disney Security was pretty much acting like a police force, and a very aggressive one at that. Part of the results of that law suit was Disney Security acting more like traditional private security and the respective sheriffs offices being on property in a more active role. Maybe enough people have moved into the area for widespread anger to have died down, but the power brokers of the Orlando attractions industry probably have not. The Reedy Creek Improvement District has been threatened before (it's never been very popular after Walt died and Eisner made the situation worse) and Disney head back towards a line they were told not to get near would be a great reason to revoke the grand powers handed over to secure the never built EPCOT.

If approved by a legislature, corporations can have actual law enforcement with police powers. Here in Alabama, there is a dog track and several hospitals that have sworn law enforcement under their control. It is all up to the state legislature. That being said, I don't think Disney Security can pull you over as they aren't equipped with a blue light (or red depending on what is required in FL). Since they do have a quasi city type organization, they can contract with the sheriff to work the public roads or entire area for that matter. You aren't on a private road until you go through a pay gate. We can argue this all you want and it doesn't matter who maintains the roads, if the public has free access, they are public. I believe we have looked the law up in FL previously on this sight (See the getting pulled over in DHS parking lot thread) and established that the SO there can write you on private property. All of that being said, Disney has no employees that are sworn and there is no way in hell Uncle Sam is giving Disney access to CJIS (LE Databases) or anything like that. Sorry I replied to just you, but I wanted to clear up what appears to be A LOT of confusion on this thread.

 

[lazyboy97o]

If approved by a legislature, corporations can have actual law enforcement with police powers. Here in Alabama, there is a dog track and several hospitals that have sworn law enforcement under their control. It is all up to the state legislature. That being said, I don't think Disney Security can pull you over as they aren't equipped with a blue light (or red depending on what is required in FL). Since they do have a quasi city type organization, they can contract with the sheriff to work the public roads or entire area for that matter. You aren't on a private road until you go through a pay gate. We can argue this all you want and it doesn't matter who maintains the roads, if the public has free access, they are public. I believe we have looked the law up in FL previously on this sight (See the getting pulled over in DHS parking lot thread) and established that the SO there can write you on private property. All of that being said, Disney has no employees that are sworn and there is no way in hell Uncle Sam is giving Disney access to CJIS (LE Databases) or anything like that. Sorry I replied to just you, but I wanted to clear up what appears to be A LOT of confusion on this thread.

I am not really talking about what Disney legally can or cannot do. There are actions that Reedy Creek Improvement District can legally undertake that would be unpopular and easier to use to build support for dissolving the district.

And before the aforementioned lawsuit Disney Security did have the blue lights.

 

[ford91exploder]

If approved by a legislature, corporations can have actual law enforcement with police powers. Here in Alabama, there is a dog track and several hospitals that have sworn law enforcement under their control. It is all up to the state legislature. That being said, I don't think Disney Security can pull you over as they aren't equipped with a blue light (or red depending on what is required in FL). Since they do have a quasi city type organization, they can contract with the sheriff to work the public roads or entire area for that matter. You aren't on a private road until you go through a pay gate. We can argue this all you want and it doesn't matter who maintains the roads, if the public has free access, they are public. I believe we have looked the law up in FL previously on this sight (See the getting pulled over in DHS parking lot thread) and established that the SO there can write you on private property. All of that being said, Disney has no employees that are sworn and there is no way in hell Uncle Sam is giving Disney access to CJIS (LE Databases) or anything like that. Sorry I replied to just you, but I wanted to clear up what appears to be A LOT of confusion on this thread.

You would be surprised at what TWDC has access to at the federal level and the information flow goes both ways simply because WDW/DL are such 'high value soft targets'

Nothing to do with conspiracies it's pretty much that way with all high profile venues like major league sports stadia etc.

Just because they don't trumpet this does not mean it does not exist.