Not sure……..but as a starting point DCA’s comprehensive overhaul with features like Buena Vista St entry and Carsland was approx 1 billion about 12 years ago.
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$500 million for Cosmic Rewind,…why?
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Not sure……..but as a starting point DCA’s comprehensive overhaul with features like Buena Vista St entry and Carsland was approx 1 billion about 12 years ago.
Goofyernmost
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I'll get killed for this, but to me Mystic Manor was not all that impressive.
Yep, you’d be a minority as many Disney park fans cite Mystic Manor as exceptionally good and even as far as calling it the best attraction in the world.
MK-fan
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You're right, you’re gonna get killed for this lol.
yensidtlaw1969
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I'm maybe gonna shock people even more by *nearly* agreeing with Goofyernmost . . . now, I wouldn't go so far as to call Mystic Manor "not all that impressive", but if I'm being really critical I do think it's overhyped for what it actually is.
I would say it's generally one of the better attractions Disney's put together in the last 15 years or so. But I think that has more to do with it being closer to the kind of attraction they don't often make anymore than it has to do with the thing itself being so good. I think it's pretty easily bested by a number of other Disney attractions, newer and older. To me it doesn't quite ever congeal the way the very best Disney rides do. It falls a little short on a few too many fronts, despite being generally really good. I could do a deeper dive on this, because I feel like this won't be popular but I think when you break it down it starts to become clearer.
That said, I'll take Mystic Manor a hundred times over Cosmic Rewind. CR is shockingly devoid of anything worth what it cost.
I would say it's generally one of the better attractions Disney's put together in the last 15 years or so. But I think that has more to do with it being closer to the kind of attraction they don't often make anymore than it has to do with the thing itself being so good. I think it's pretty easily bested by a number of other Disney attractions, newer and older. To me it doesn't quite ever congeal the way the very best Disney rides do. It falls a little short on a few too many fronts, despite being generally really good. I could do a deeper dive on this, because I feel like this won't be popular but I think when you break it down it starts to become clearer.
That said, I'll take Mystic Manor a hundred times over Cosmic Rewind. CR is shockingly devoid of anything worth what it cost.
Poseidon Quest
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I think a large part of its appeal was the novelty of its trackless system and many of its effects were generally a proof-of-concept for what has now become standard design in a lot of Disney rides.
Now that we've gotten trackless rides and they're just kind of "meh" and now that projection tech has become over-saturated, essentially becoming Disney's version of Universal's screen problem, it appears less interesting in retrospect. I'd still like to experience it, but it relies on a lot of tricks that are now less impressive.
I've not yet been to HKDL and I'll take Mystic Manor a thousand times over Cosmic Rewind. Over-hyped, over-rated, and overly-expensive for a less-than-mediocre ride that uses forced rotation to the detriment of many, many guests.
Many disney fans cite CR as the best ride in the world as wel....
Andrew25
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Mystic Manor was Disney's first 'modern' dark ride that utilized "newer" tech like trackless ride systems and projections. Rise, Runaway Railway, and other newer experiences all feature similar technology nowadays.
It's also in Hong Kong, so it's an ultra-rare credit to gloat about if you ever experienced it yourself.
That's not to take credit away from Mystic Manor, I certainly want it in the states, but it's greatness is certainly overstated at times.
It's also in Hong Kong, so it's an ultra-rare credit to gloat about if you ever experienced it yourself.
That's not to take credit away from Mystic Manor, I certainly want it in the states, but it's greatness is certainly overstated at times.
Disstevefan1
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I will say, I much rather they spend 500M on adding a NEW additional attraction (not a re theme of an existing attraction) than flushing 500M down the toilet on a money losing movie no one can even remember a few months after it releases.
yensidtlaw1969
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That's not quite true - Poohs Hunny Hunt was the first (In the year 2000!).
Not that breaking ground is a requirement to make a fun attraction, but Mystic Manor mostly relies on tricks and tech that had already been proven. That's fine, and it combines many of them well, but the mistaken idea that it brought a lot of innovation to the table I think contibutes to it being a little oversold.
MK-fan
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IMO, While Cosmic Rewind is a super fun experience and a hell of a ride, it doesn’t come close to Disney’s best efforts and is not the best ride Disney has ever done. Fans seem to get lost in the thrill and new-ness of rides. essentially, CR is an empty building with screens and is based on a very popular IP. It’s a home run in many ways but doesn’t even scratch the surface of quality from top to bottom attractions like Pirates (DL) and Indy.
I agree but a lot of people thing CR is the best thing ever and I dont think Disney made a mistake building it because it is really awesome imo. I think PotC is the best btw
Coaster Lover
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Would be surprising if true. Based on what I can find, licensing the use of a song for a movie, TV show, or video game only costs about 15,000 USD to 60,000 USD per song (unless it's by the Beatles which historically have ridiculously high licensing fees). Given that most of these songs are older (and likely not generating a whole lot of revenue for the original artists currently), I'd be shocked if the fees to license them for the ride would be significantly greater (maybe 10x that original figure, but not 50x or 100x as some had been suggesting). In fact, I'd wager most of the artists would settle for 50,000 USD + lifetime passes for them and their families to WDW....
erasure fan1
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I completely agree. I was smiling ear to ear while riding. It's a very fun coaster that's very unique. Will it hold up over multiple visits and multiple rides per visit? I'm not sure. As much nostalgia as I have for space mountain, I usually ride once a visit and I'm over it. Rewind at least has some things to look at, plus it has the music.Thunder, everest, even 7DMT (if the line was reasonable), I could ride ove and over. There's so much to look at while riding, so many details and great theming.
erasure fan1
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Of course it's not a mistake. I just think a lot of people were hoping for a bit more on the ride itself, rather than a bunch of screens and an unthemed warehouse.
Rich Brownn
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Heck, the presto-change room was even used in Vegas at the Star Trek Experience (this one was a little more complex as to had a ceiling that also slid out of view during the transition)
Animaniac93-98
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When RSR opened, it was the most expensive ride they had ever done up to that date.
But no one questioned where the money went. It shows it a dramatic, obvious way that puts any doubt aside.
(Conversely, rides like Little Mermaid and Epcot's version of Frozen Ever After display their budget restrictions)
There's a reason why this thread exists and why the question keeps getting asked when it comes to Cosmic Rewind.
If it was obvious like RSR, Cosmic Rewind would probably be the greatest ride in the world.
But it's just a roller coaster. A fun one, but not even close to the league of Disney's best.
Twirlnhurl
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It is my understanding that the effect in Star Trek The Experience also occurred on a turntable, so the room you were looking at when the lights flash was replaced by the bridge of the Enterprise. Almost like a mix between the pre-show effect from Cosmic Rewind mixed with the transport shuttle door gag in Rise of the Resistance.
I never got to see Star Trek The Experience in person, but it sounds like the best version of the strobe room change effect ever attempted. Pretty amazing it was for an attraction at a second-tier casino in Las Vegas instead of a real theme park.
The gag is also used in FoP. That's why your console flashes bright lights at you to constrict your pupils so you don't see the shield in front of you retract. And the gag in CR also flashes lights at you.
I've learned to close my eyes and shield them with my hand to become immune to the effect. Then I can see the walls move!