Gitson Shiggles
There was me, that is Mickey, and my three droogs
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4 Walt Disney World Resorts to accept dogs
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Gitson Shiggles
There was me, that is Mickey, and my three droogs
Can someone do a video montage with sad music like one of those late night commercials about mistreated dogs at puppy mills?
21stamps
Well-Known Member
Right, because this is exactly the only type of dog that will be brought to WDW.
I’m willing to sit back and wait a few weeks to see what unfolds. Given that the new policy takes effect tomorrow, we’ll know soon enough if there are major issues or not.
In the meantime, people posting pics of their cute little puppies proves nothing. I have an adorable <7-lb dog too. So?
Nope it won't be the only type, but those sized dogs will be the only ones on Magical Express.
I don't have fear that big dogs will escape, attack, destroy, any more than the little dogs...and I don't think a huge amount of large dogs will be there daily...they're just not as practical.
But... we'll see if attacks and lawsuits start happening.. and how many people faint at the sight of a (gasp) DOG!.
wdwfan4ver
Well-Known Member
Just because you are biologist, that doesn't mean you know about pet allergies. Dogs are wonderful animals that some people like myself are unfortunately allergic to.
You need the following to understand allergies: deal with them like me as an example, know people that have allergies or be an allergist.
I go to an allergist for allergy shots, and for asthma and I have first hand experience with dealing with pet allergies including dogs.
You comment about its "just a few dogs, You will be fine" shows how ignorant you are about allergies unless you enjoy people with pet allergies get water eyes, or runny noses and that is those that take allergy shots. I matter of fact had to go to relatives house growing with a dog with the owners not putting away the dog at all back when I was growing up and I had issues with eyes and nose as a result of the dog.
Those who don't take allergy shots are much worse off than I am by them getting in contact with a dog with them ending up in a hospital.
The problem with pets for allergy sufferers such as my myself is caused by the dogs inside buildings. Even a few dogs can cause allergies to act up like they did in the airport for me with my nose. My allergies aren't life threatening due to me taking allergy shots at the allergist. Without those allergy shots, I'll be in the hospital from contact from a dog inside a building. The problem with the dogs for allergy suffers is not the smell, but the dander.
The nature of the allergies of the dog caused me runny noses as a kid and watery eyes. Without the allergy shots growing up, I would've been in the hospital from being in my grandparents house.
spacemt354
Chili's
Not sure they are intended to 'prove' anything other than to poke fun at the more radically negative views on this decision.Right, because this is exactly the only type of dog that will be brought to WDW.
I’m willing to sit back and wait a few weeks to see what unfolds. Given that the new policy takes effect tomorrow, we’ll know soon enough if there are major issues or not.
In the meantime, people posting pics of their cute little puppies proves nothing. I have an adorable <7-lb dog too. So?
After thinking on it for a night, i doubt we would use this. As much as we want to spend time with our dog, seems like you can't do much with the dog. And for the extra cost and transport, the added benefits seem more like a security blanket that your dog is in your room, rather than a vacation companion. For the dog's sake, might as well send him to the pet care center.
And if they ever expanded it to the parks, i doubt we would use that either. All it takes is someone among thousands jumping the wrong way at the dog to end up in a lawsuit. We also have a family member who has a phobia for dogs. We have a German Shepard. Nicest dog you'd ever meet, but she's deathly afraid of him. Rather than tempt fate, we keep him away - plain and simple. That's the dog owner's responsibility.
The Magic Kingdom Park is not a county park - the odds of running into someone with such a phobia are increased. There's also increased odds of someone running up to and spooking the dog, which is just an extra stress factor that we don't want on a vacation.
GoofGoof
Premium Member
wdwfan4ver
Well-Known Member
I have a concern with Disney actually enforcing the rules they listed for dogs.
I am mentioning this because on the airplane flight back, I saw rules concerning dogs not being enforced like dogs were not in carriers during airplane flight at all.To top off, I witnessed dogs block flight attendants middle of aisles on the plane.
I am mentioning this because on the airplane flight back, I saw rules concerning dogs not being enforced like dogs were not in carriers during airplane flight at all.To top off, I witnessed dogs block flight attendants middle of aisles on the plane.
GoofGoof
Premium Member
This is a valid concern. Disney has a history of being passive aggressive at best and not wanting to have CMs confront guests directly. Imagine telling a dog owner who just sat down at Cindy’s Table for their breakfast ADR that they need to come back to their room because Fido won’t shut up. I also wonder how well they will enforce the “relief areas”. People are going to walk their dogs on whatever grass is closest to their room. I think those are the 2 biggest areas where conflict could occur.
Another concern I would have is will this lead to more fake service animals. People are going to feel bad that they have to leave their dogs in the room all day and it only takes a nominal fee and an online application to have your dog certified as an emotional support animal which gets them into the parks and restaurants too. Real service animals are trained to handle crowds and noise but the fake ones that are just pets can be a problem when exposed to the extreme environment of the parks. I realize people could have just gotten a fake certificate before this policy anyway, but I wonder if this isn’t just the first step towards an increase since the dogs will already be on property.
Incomudro
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Posts like this are stupid.To follow @Movielover 's post.. I'll just put two more.. my dog.
Dogs like this will tear apart hotel rooms.. destroy hallways.. killers .. Watch out!! Run!!!!!!!
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Not every dog is that small.
And regardless of size, that little dog is very capable of soiling carpets, floors and so on, as well as destroying furniture during possible fits of separation anxiety.
It's also capable of barking, perhaps more apt to bark than a large breed.
olie64
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"El Gran Magnifico"
Mr Flibble is Very Cross.
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That's the point. They're going to take on additional exposure......so they can accommodate someone bringing their pet? I just don't get that. More power to 'em. Just seems unnecessary. I doubt anyone was refusing to go to Disney because they couldn't bring their pet.
I don't think this has anything to do with profitability. If it was about profit...they'd go ahead and enact the "Resort Fee". I'd really like to know the rationale behind this.
peter11435
Well-Known Member
Maybe not refusing to go to Disney, but there were certainly people who refused to stay on property because they couldn't bring their pets. Yes they are taking on additional exposure, but they are also taking on additional perspective customers and possible additional revenue from existing customers. So obviously they feel this possibly outways the potential risks and thus have decided to test it.
Everything is about profit. This is a much more palatable new revenue source than a resort fee.
I crack up at those online "certification" papers that people actually pay for. What a waste of money. And FYI for anybody curious, there is NO legal "certification" papers even for a true and trained Service/Working Animal. The ADA even has a section on their website to notify people of this. It is the TRAINING that is required and the dog must be able to handle certain situations and environments and still be able to "work". I have trained many true service dogs and while I will provide a certification certificate if asked, I also let my clients know that it is NOT a legal document in any shape or form.
And "ESA" Emotional Support Animal is NOT a service animal and does not have the same legal access requirements that service animal does.
AndyS2992
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I was discussing this with friends at work today and they brought up some points I hadn't thought of so being the weird person I am I actually called Disney World guest services to complain, the nice guy said he's been getting calls against this plan all day so I doubt this will last long.
TheGuyThatMakesSwords
Well-Known Member
Waiting for the new room request category:
"No Dog Rooms"
Given that some people have allergies? This would be the equivalent of "no smoking rooms", circa 2000. So - regardless of cleaning level? These rooms/areas may very well be poisoned, in terms of "non-dog" guest acceptance.
All personal opinion - I'm not necessarily right, no one else is necessarily wrong.
"No Dog Rooms"
Given that some people have allergies? This would be the equivalent of "no smoking rooms", circa 2000. So - regardless of cleaning level? These rooms/areas may very well be poisoned, in terms of "non-dog" guest acceptance.
All personal opinion - I'm not necessarily right, no one else is necessarily wrong.
JenniferS
When you're the leader, you don't have to follow.
Nothing here we didn’t already know, but for what it’s worth, this is Disney’s response to my email:
Dear Jennifer,
Thank you for contacting us regarding our dog-friendly Resorts.
Because dogs are considered beloved members of the family, we will soon be offering a new way for Guests to enjoy their Disney vacations with their favorite canine companions. Beginning Oct. 15, select Disney resort hotels will offer an opportunity for Guests to bring their favorite four-legged friends with them for an additional charge. Guests may have up to two dogs per room.
Guests traveling with their dogs must register them with the Front Desk at the resort and adhere to the pet policies they receive upon registration. These include reminders about proper care and behavior, aswell as the need for the dog to remain on a leash at all times while in public spaces. Guests must be able to provide documentation that their dog's vaccinations and inoculations are up to date, upon request.
We will designate certain floors or sections of a hotel as dog-friendly,while the majority of areas will remain canine-free to accommodate Guests with allergies or other concerns. Should you have any concerns during your visit, we encourage you to speak with a Cast Member at the Front Desk.
We truly appreciate the time you took to share your thoughts with us.
Best regards,
David Perkins
Guest Experience Services
Walt Disney World Resort
Dear Jennifer,
Thank you for contacting us regarding our dog-friendly Resorts.
Because dogs are considered beloved members of the family, we will soon be offering a new way for Guests to enjoy their Disney vacations with their favorite canine companions. Beginning Oct. 15, select Disney resort hotels will offer an opportunity for Guests to bring their favorite four-legged friends with them for an additional charge. Guests may have up to two dogs per room.
Guests traveling with their dogs must register them with the Front Desk at the resort and adhere to the pet policies they receive upon registration. These include reminders about proper care and behavior, aswell as the need for the dog to remain on a leash at all times while in public spaces. Guests must be able to provide documentation that their dog's vaccinations and inoculations are up to date, upon request.
We will designate certain floors or sections of a hotel as dog-friendly,while the majority of areas will remain canine-free to accommodate Guests with allergies or other concerns. Should you have any concerns during your visit, we encourage you to speak with a Cast Member at the Front Desk.
We truly appreciate the time you took to share your thoughts with us.
Best regards,
David Perkins
Guest Experience Services
Walt Disney World Resort
"El Gran Magnifico"
Mr Flibble is Very Cross.
So a slightly higher fee for a very small percentage of guests is more palatable for Disney than a slightly lower fee that would apply to 100% of their guests?
And for that slightly higher fee, you're going to open yourself up to that kind of exposure?
A resort fee is charged by every "non-Disney -on property" hotel and many nearby off property hotels? There really is no justification Disney needs to enact it. If you are looking at max profit-low exposure - you're going with the resort fee every time.
rnese
Well-Known Member
Seriously? Are you like, eight?