Slpy3270
Well-Known Member
Because they (mostly Japan and China, where the concept of "individual freedom" are at odds with their collectivist-minded culture) handled Covid better (though alarm bells are ringing in France right now).
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Politics 28000 Layoffs coming to Disney's domestic theme parks - statement from Josh D'Amaro
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Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
Because Disney has ZERO control over Japan and China...
And they have better leadership on this (nationally...despite some huge differences I’m not talking about)
Because Paris has a different labor/worker/customer dynamic
And they and the E.U. have better leadership
Because California has “different” leadership...jury is out there. And Disney has political cover not to open.
Because Florida had to open because of the PR to Wall Street, the nba bubble and vacation club?
asianway
Well-Known Member
I believe they could open the food booths in DCA and let people in today if they want.
CaptainAmerica
Premium Member
No offense, but people who say stuff like this have never met an exec in their lives. It is absolutely devastating to be the person who has to pull the trigger on something like this.
SirWillow
Well-Known Member
This has a lot to do with it. There won't be character meet and greets for a while. Maybe next year, but possibly not. That's a major source of Photopass photos, and if there won't be those photos, then the package as a whole is less appealing. Not to mention that's a lot of photographers without a place to shoot.
Rather than 10 photographers on Main Street, you can get by with 3 or 4, because of the crowds, so there's another cut. And it just kind of ends up being a downward spiral.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
To?
What?
End?
!?
Yeah...your way more of an optimist on this one.
Not him specifically...just in general.
Slpy3270
Well-Known Member
One of the strange things about that Citi report that I mentioned here this morning was this passage:
How do you even reconcile that with 28,000 jobs lost that will never be filled back up? Not to mention the constant Hollywood and media headlines questioning if Disney even has a future?
How do you even reconcile that with 28,000 jobs lost that will never be filled back up? Not to mention the constant Hollywood and media headlines questioning if Disney even has a future?
CaptainAmerica
Premium Member
The vast majority of people I work with are Senior Directors or VPs. They're normal people.
CaptainAmerica
Premium Member
On what basis are you concluding that these jobs will "never" be filled back up? When demand returns to normal, staffing will too.
That's true but for him to meet the staff in person and let them vent and cry is not common at all. Josh came in with a lot of fanfare in his promoted role. As the cast member said he looked absolutely defeated.
SirWillow
Well-Known Member
Some will. But there are a lot that they will eliminate never to return. The ones that they consider "extras" that don't deliver $$, expect a lot of them to be gone for good.
Slpy3270
Well-Known Member
Demand will never return to normal, and even if it did it would take probably a decade to do that. We don't even know if Disney will still have a theme park division by then. Or if activist investors don't break the company up a la Time Warner.
Look at Universal. Thanks to an activist investor trying to buy more shares in the company, there's a possibility NBCUniversal may not even have a theme park unit within the next year or so.
SirWillow
Well-Known Member
Disney is not going to get ride of their theme park division. Not when it's been one of the major profit makers for the company (this year excepted of course) and is so much tied into the core and history of the company.
Slpy3270
Well-Known Member
If their philosophy is all about cutting costs within the next few years then expect a lot of resources that would go to the parks to instead go to Studios, Media Networks or DTC.
el_super
Well-Known Member
Demand will return to normal. You're right, it might take some time, and it might look different, but there's nothing broken with the business of providing experiences to people. Certainly nothing caused by the temporary pandemic. People will always want vacations.
CaptainAmerica
Premium Member
Oh I see you're a crazy person.
CaptainAmerica
Premium Member
Your head is buried deep into the "Parks fan" sand.
Feature films and linear television were in a tailspin long before COVID. Parks and DTC are the future. Studio is now a content factory for DTC.
Slpy3270
Well-Known Member
Go ask the Hollywood press doomsaying Disney's future if they're "crazy".
DTC won't be profitable for years. And what happens when the Netflix bubble inevitably bursts? Disney+ will probably fall with it.
Patcheslee
Well-Known Member
The Knotts Berry portion that is open is the equivalent to Downtown Disney on a much smaller scale. I don't even think it requires employees at a turnstile.
And Downtown is also currently operating at a phased opening.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
I see American and United are threatening massive layoffs... “unless they receive federal assistance...”
Guess the first $60,000,000,000 goes only so far huh?
I also guess that travel is “back”. When does port orleans open?
Guess the first $60,000,000,000 goes only so far huh?
I also guess that travel is “back”. When does port orleans open?