21st Century Fox becomes 20th Century Studios

[Magenta Panther]

I suppose the merger could have gone in THIS direction:

 

[jt04]

Strong disagreement.

Firstly, superhero films generally do not expand the genre in a real meaningful way. They play it safe to appease its target demographics, and while they’re usually pretty fun, they’re largely disposable and frivolous. The lack of ambition should preclude them from awards consideration. The only superhero film that truly deserved Oscar glory was Christopher Nolan’s The Dark Knight, and that was one of the most infamous Oscar flubs in recent history.

Art house pictures have a luxury that Disney and superhero films simply don’t allow for: they are usually only beholden to the creative force behind the camera, whether it be the director or screenwriter (if they’re not the same person). No matter what kind of film we end of getting, it’s uniquely the filmmakers vision, for better or worse. The story can go to darker places and challenge audiences in ways that Disney will never be able to, and when something so profoundly unique comes across the audience‘s path, it’s worth respecting and propping up.

Few exemptions aside, superhero films are largely made by committee, and are largely the products of a grand story path, and no necessarily a great writer or visionary (Nolan, Gunn being two of the biggest outliers to this rule). I don’t believe that deserves the glory over something created that is much more personal and unique to that particular filmmaker.

What is the fixation with "taking audiences to darker places" as you put it?

Great films can be made that do the opposite and still challange. Problem is the "Academy" largely doesn't consider such films to be artsy or cutting edge. Which is why the audience continues to dwindle.

 

[Tony Perkis]

What is the fixation with "taking audiences to darker places" as you put it?

It’s called an “example”.

I haven’t mentioned “darker place” in any regular pattern, so don't misconstrue my primary points.

Great films can be made that do the opposite and still challange. Problem is the "Academy" largely doesn't consider such films to be artsy or cutting edge. Which is why the audience continues to dwindle.

I asked another poster to define to me great, populist entertainment that the Academy doesn’t acknowledge. I would appreciate feedback, because otherwise, it reeks of people upset that their favorite Disney films aren’t nominated.

 

[Animaniac93-98]

I agree. I just don’t put Marvel films in that realm

So you don't think Black Panther deserved to be nominated for Best Picture?!


(because I didn't)

 

[jt04]

It’s called an “example”.

I haven’t mentioned “darker place” in any regular pattern, so don't misconstrue my primary points.


I asked another poster to define to me great, populist entertainment that the Academy doesn’t acknowledge. I would appreciate feedback, because otherwise, it reeks of people upset that their favorite Disney films aren’t nominated.

My comments were mainly my take on the entertainment establishment. They tend to reward one world view over another.

As for Disney not being rewarded, we likely agree. I do think SMB deserved a BP nomination. But other that that slight, no real argument.

My point all along has been Disney (or anyone else so inclined) can make great academy award worthy films that can also be Disney audience compatible.

 

[jt04]

So you don't think Black Panther deserved to be nominated for Best Picture?!


(because I didn't)

Of course it did and Marvel could win a BP eventually. As could Star Wars. As could a 20th Century Studios film under Disney. One of those will happen.

 

[Tony Perkis]

So you don't think Black Panther deserved to be nominated for Best Picture?!


(because I didn't)

I do not. I think it got nominated for reasons that had little to do with the film.

 

[Animaniac93-98]

I do not. I think it got nominated for reasons that had little to do with the film.

There was much applauding when it was nominated, but after Green Book's win and this year's sole Black acting nominee being the woman who played Harriet Tubman it was clearly just another case of Hollywood's hollow tokenism.

 

[Tony Perkis]

There was much applauding when it was nominated, but after Green Book's win and this year's sole Black acting nominee being the woman who played Harriet Tubman it was clearly just another case of Hollywood's hollow tokenism.

100% in agreement.

 

[prberk]

It would really be nice to have a studio (20th Century, Touchstone, Hollywood) that would produce non-franchised material. We need more good standalone films with good stories and popular appeal.

 

[Indy_UK]

I think that’s what they will use 20th Century Productions but in hindsight, it may have been cheaper to resurrect Touchstone

 

[The Grand Inquisitor]

Disney Plans to Only Release 4 Fox Movies a Year Moving Forward

Former Fox head Emma Watts has left the studio as Disney has taken over, making sweeping changes.

movieweb.com

Very interesting article. It seems like Avatar will be 20th Century Studios main focus going forward.

 

[The Grand Inquisitor]

'Call of the Wild' Takes Close Lead Over 'Sonic' at Box Office

 

[Darkprime]

'Call of the Wild' Takes Close Lead Over 'Sonic' at Box Office

A much needed win for 20th Century.

 

[The Grand Inquisitor]

A much needed win for 20th Century.

I agree. I hope the studio continues to do well under Disney. I hope the Avatar and Planet of the Apes movies are big hits for them.

 

[Darkprime]

Avatar 2 should do really well its Avatar 3 and 4 where things will get interesting. Will the hype carry past Avatar 2?

 

[erasure fan1]

Avatar 2 should do really well its Avatar 3 and 4 where things will get interesting. Will the hype carry past Avatar 2?

Yea that is my thoght as well. If Avatar 2 is fantastic, it should carry over. If 2 is just meh, you might have a problem. I think there will be a lot of curiosity with 2, I know I'm curious. I'm not sure I'll actually go to the theater to see it but I am curious.