2020 The Year of the Upcharge >:(

marni1971

Park History nut
Premium Member
Posted elsewhere, it may be more poignant here. From six years ago today:

The names have changed and the points have gotten worse;

(Sing to the melody of "Belle")

(Myers) "Buy more!"
(Staggs) "Buy more!"
(Crofton) "Buy more!"
(Kalogridis) "Buy more!"
(MacPhee) "Buy more!"

(Guest) There goes the VP of Park Op-er-a-tions. He's really busy I can tell!
And he thinks what would be neat, is another meet and greet.
Cause they make those Princess dresses sell well.

(Staggs) "Good Morning, Guest, where are you off to?"
(Guest) "To Epcot! I just finished the most wonderful story about a Dreamfinder and a dragon and..."
(Staggs) "That's nice." (turns away disinterested) "MEG! How are the profits? Push them up!"

(Crofton and Kalogridis) "Look there they go, those Guests don't see the magic,"
(Crofton and Kalogridis) "That we have crafted up so well."
(Myers) "They don't like our magic bands."
(Staggs) "But we don't care about the fans."
(All of them) "Unless they buy the things we have to sell!"

(MacPhee) "Buy more!"
(Crofton) "Buy more!"
(MacPhee) "How is the Starbucks?"

(Crofton) "Buy more!"
(Staggs) "Quick pay!"
(Myers) "It's on your wrist."

(Monorail Driver) "I need, maintenance."
(Staggs) "That's too expensive."

(Guest) "There must be better, maybe up I-Drive?"

(Kalogridis) "Ah, Guest!"
(Guest) "Good Morning! I came to see the new ride you promised!"
(Kalogridis) "But those have been rumors for years, you came already?"
(Guest) "It's the only reason I drove down! Have you got anything new?"
(Kalogridis - laughing) "Well, we've got some tangled restrooms."
(Guest) "Well, that's just not right. I'll go to Uni then"
(Kalogridis - shocked) "Universal? But you've been there twice already!"
(Guest) "But it's got some favorites. Far off places, daring thrill rides. Magic spells, and it's clean and it's nice!"
(Kalogridis) "Well, if you like it that much, then it's yours."
(Guest) "But sir!"
(Kalogridis) "I insist. We can always find others willing to take your spot."
(Guest) "Thank you, thank you very much!"

(Senior Park Management) "Look there they go, those Guests are so peculiar."
(Senior Park Management) "We've got some great new stuff to sell."
(Crofton) "With our brand new Mermaid ride,"
(MacPhee) "That's boring and plastic inside."
(All management) "What a puzzle to the rest of us, oh well."

(Guest) "Oooooh, isn't this amazing. It's my favorite ride, because you'll see."
(Guest) "Here's where you'll meet Olivander, and get a wand just like the Wizard Harry P!"

(Crofton) "This makes me wonder if those Guests are worthy."
(Crofton) "MK now has wine it can sell."
(Staggs) "They really cannot see, our strong earnings quarter 3."
(Kalogridis) "Very different from the rest of us, oh well.

(All management) "They're nothing like the rest of us, they're different then the rest of us, oh well!"

(Rasulo) "WOW. You never flub a deal, Bob! Your the best IP hunter in the WORLD!"
(Iger) "I know."
(Rasulo) "No unique concept stands a chance against you! And no WDW fan, for that matter."
(Iger) "It's true! But next, I've got my sites set on that one (points to DC Comics)"
(Rasulo) "More comic fodder?"
(Iger) "That's the one! The lucky company I'm going to acquire!"
(Rasulo) "But it's..."
(Iger) "The most beautiful concepts I could ever acquire!"
(Rasulo) "I know..."
(Iger) "That makes DC the best! And don't I deserve the best?"
(Rasulo) "Of course, I mean...you do!"

(Iger) "Right from the moment that I became chairman,"
(Iger) "I knew how to make Disney run well."
(Iger) "I'd slash all maintenance, and build timeshare units."
(Iger) "And I'll finally make WDW wifi work well."

(Croften) "Look there, he goes, isn't he dreamy."
(MacPhee) "That Bob I-ger. Oh he's so cute."
(Staggs) "Bestill, my heart. I'm hardly breathing."
(All 3) "He's such a strong and corporate minded brute!"

(Iger is walking through a crowded main street chasing the Guest)

(Kalogridis) "Buy more!"
(Croften) "Quick pay!"
(Guest) "This guest is leaving"
(Staggs) "Starbucks!"
(MacPhee) "Fastpass?"
(Guest) "Not in your life!"

(Kalogridis) "Restooms!"
(Croften) "Quick pay!"
(MacPhee) "One more princess restaurant!"
(Staggs) "Starbucks!"
(MacPhee) "Phone Apps?"
(Guest) "This isn't right!"

(Guest) "There must be more than this pre-packaged grime!"
(Iger) "Just watch, we'll make you spend last every last diiiiiime!"

(All Management) "Look there they go, that Guest is strange but special."
(Croften) "And with good credit, I can tell!"
(All Management) "It's a pity she can't see, all the great things we're doing."

(All Management) "They really are a funny guest. A rich, but quite peculiar guest."
(Iger) "They'll spend it all before we rest!"
(All Management) "OH WEEEEELLLLLLL!"

(Myers) "Buy more!"
(Staggs) "Buy more!"
(Crofton) "Buy more!"
(Kalogridis) "Buy more!"
(MacPhee) "Buy more!"
(Iger) "Buy more!"
 

DznyGrlSD

Well-Known Member
In the Parks
Yes
without reading the article...this started back during the Year of a Million dreams timeframe...hence the "year of a million upcharge events"
 

bUU

Well-Known Member
You are recalling those times with a child's perspective though.
As an adult if the parks went back to how they were you may feel differently.
Absolutely. A lot of the knee jerk and otherwise irrational reactions we see to how things are and how things are changing fall under that same banner.
 

bubbles1812

Well-Known Member
The trouble is that people keep asking for more and paying for it.

I like MNSSHP and MVMCP but I can leave EMM, DAH, and parties within parties and I do and just plan around the things I don't care for.

Other guests want to feel "special" though so as long as their are people willing to pay Disney will continue to come up with different instagramable events.

Some of us saw that these pay to play events were going to replace EMH yet people took the bait anyways

I don’t know if I want to feel ‘special’ and I certainly don’t have an Instagram but I do pay for some of the upcharge events. Am I always thrilled about it? No... but at the same time, paying for a good view without having to park it 2 hours before HEA is worth it to me. So sometimes I do a dessert parties. I’d like to have a decent seat for Candlelight Processional so I booked a dining package. I do like the special parades and fireworks shows so I’ll go the Christmas Party. The party within a party I don’t quite get but I’ll never say never about doing it. After Hours didn’t get a buy this time but it’s been talked about positively enough that I might do it in the future.

I don’t even know if I would classify myself as “taking the bait.” Even while buying these things, I willfully recognize it plays into what Disney wants me to do, but I’m not falling for a trick. I’m acknowledging reality and shaping my visit how I want it to be to experience the things I want to, understanding that yeah, unfortunately, it now requires some extra dollars here and there. Thankfully, it’s still in my budget.

The upcharges are not going to change unless the entire visitor base changes their spending habits. That’s not going to happen anytime soon so we are all forced to adapt... or stop going. Just haven’t reached that point for me, but I do understand your frustrations 😕
 

Queen of the WDW Scene

Well-Known Member
In the Parks
No
I don’t know if I want to feel ‘special’ and I certainly don’t have an Instagram but I do pay for some of the upcharge events. Am I always thrilled about it? No... but at the same time, paying for a good view without having to park it 2 hours before HEA is worth it to me. So sometimes I do a dessert parties. I’d like to have a decent seat for Candlelight Processional so I booked a dining package. I do like the special parades and fireworks shows so I’ll go the Christmas Party. The party within a party I don’t quite get but I’ll never say never about doing it. After Hours didn’t get a buy this time but it’s been talked about positively enough that I might do it in the future.

I don’t even know if I would classify myself as “taking the bait.” Even while buying these things, I willfully recognize it plays into what Disney wants me to do, but I’m not falling for a trick. I’m acknowledging reality and shaping my visit how I want it to be to experience the things I want to, understanding that yeah, unfortunately, it now requires some extra dollars here and there. Thankfully, it’s still in my budget.

The upcharges are not going to change unless the entire visitor base changes their spending habits. That’s not going to happen anytime soon so we are all forced to adapt... or stop going. Just haven’t reached that point for me, but I do understand your frustrations 😕

Don't get me wrong. I'm guilty of it too lol.
I love the FEA dessert party although since its no longer Illuminations I doubt I'll care if I have that amazing of a view.
But something I would not do is a Tony's Christmas party within the Christmas party. Just can't justify that type of thing.
 

HauntedPirate

Park nostalgist
Premium Member
Create a problem - The perception of crowded parks most days of the year due to staffing cuts and other manipulation

Monetize the solution - Upcharge events that advertise "Little to no wait for some of your favorite rides and attractions!!!"

The writing was on the wall.
 

NickMaio

Well-Known Member
Original Poster
Create a problem - The perception of crowded parks most days of the year due to staffing cuts and other manipulation

Monetize the solution - Upcharge events that advertise "Little to no wait for some of your favorite rides and attractions!!!"

The writing was on the wall.
I know it's quite greasy.......
Even by corporate standards.
 

KBLovedDisney

Well-Known Member
Posted elsewhere, it may be more poignant here. From six years ago today:

The names have changed and the points have gotten worse;

(Sing to the melody of "Belle")

(Myers) "Buy more!"
(Staggs) "Buy more!"
(Crofton) "Buy more!"
(Kalogridis) "Buy more!"
(MacPhee) "Buy more!"

(Guest) There goes the VP of Park Op-er-a-tions. He's really busy I can tell!
And he thinks what would be neat, is another meet and greet.
Cause they make those Princess dresses sell well.

(Staggs) "Good Morning, Guest, where are you off to?"
(Guest) "To Epcot! I just finished the most wonderful story about a Dreamfinder and a dragon and..."
(Staggs) "That's nice." (turns away disinterested) "MEG! How are the profits? Push them up!"

(Crofton and Kalogridis) "Look there they go, those Guests don't see the magic,"
(Crofton and Kalogridis) "That we have crafted up so well."
(Myers) "They don't like our magic bands."
(Staggs) "But we don't care about the fans."
(All of them) "Unless they buy the things we have to sell!"

(MacPhee) "Buy more!"
(Crofton) "Buy more!"
(MacPhee) "How is the Starbucks?"

(Crofton) "Buy more!"
(Staggs) "Quick pay!"
(Myers) "It's on your wrist."

(Monorail Driver) "I need, maintenance."
(Staggs) "That's too expensive."

(Guest) "There must be better, maybe up I-Drive?"

(Kalogridis) "Ah, Guest!"
(Guest) "Good Morning! I came to see the new ride you promised!"
(Kalogridis) "But those have been rumors for years, you came already?"
(Guest) "It's the only reason I drove down! Have you got anything new?"
(Kalogridis - laughing) "Well, we've got some tangled restrooms."
(Guest) "Well, that's just not right. I'll go to Uni then"
(Kalogridis - shocked) "Universal? But you've been there twice already!"
(Guest) "But it's got some favorites. Far off places, daring thrill rides. Magic spells, and it's clean and it's nice!"
(Kalogridis) "Well, if you like it that much, then it's yours."
(Guest) "But sir!"
(Kalogridis) "I insist. We can always find others willing to take your spot."
(Guest) "Thank you, thank you very much!"

(Senior Park Management) "Look there they go, those Guests are so peculiar."
(Senior Park Management) "We've got some great new stuff to sell."
(Crofton) "With our brand new Mermaid ride,"
(MacPhee) "That's boring and plastic inside."
(All management) "What a puzzle to the rest of us, oh well."

(Guest) "Oooooh, isn't this amazing. It's my favorite ride, because you'll see."
(Guest) "Here's where you'll meet Olivander, and get a wand just like the Wizard Harry P!"

(Crofton) "This makes me wonder if those Guests are worthy."
(Crofton) "MK now has wine it can sell."
(Staggs) "They really cannot see, our strong earnings quarter 3."
(Kalogridis) "Very different from the rest of us, oh well.

(All management) "They're nothing like the rest of us, they're different then the rest of us, oh well!"

(Rasulo) "WOW. You never flub a deal, Bob! Your the best IP hunter in the WORLD!"
(Iger) "I know."
(Rasulo) "No unique concept stands a chance against you! And no WDW fan, for that matter."
(Iger) "It's true! But next, I've got my sites set on that one (points to DC Comics)"
(Rasulo) "More comic fodder?"
(Iger) "That's the one! The lucky company I'm going to acquire!"
(Rasulo) "But it's..."
(Iger) "The most beautiful concepts I could ever acquire!"
(Rasulo) "I know..."
(Iger) "That makes DC the best! And don't I deserve the best?"
(Rasulo) "Of course, I mean...you do!"

(Iger) "Right from the moment that I became chairman,"
(Iger) "I knew how to make Disney run well."
(Iger) "I'd slash all maintenance, and build timeshare units."
(Iger) "And I'll finally make WDW wifi work well."

(Croften) "Look there, he goes, isn't he dreamy."
(MacPhee) "That Bob I-ger. Oh he's so cute."
(Staggs) "Bestill, my heart. I'm hardly breathing."
(All 3) "He's such a strong and corporate minded brute!"

(Iger is walking through a crowded main street chasing the Guest)

(Kalogridis) "Buy more!"
(Croften) "Quick pay!"
(Guest) "This guest is leaving"
(Staggs) "Starbucks!"
(MacPhee) "Fastpass?"
(Guest) "Not in your life!"

(Kalogridis) "Restooms!"
(Croften) "Quick pay!"
(MacPhee) "One more princess restaurant!"
(Staggs) "Starbucks!"
(MacPhee) "Phone Apps?"
(Guest) "This isn't right!"

(Guest) "There must be more than this pre-packaged grime!"
(Iger) "Just watch, we'll make you spend last every last diiiiiime!"

(All Management) "Look there they go, that Guest is strange but special."
(Croften) "And with good credit, I can tell!"
(All Management) "It's a pity she can't see, all the great things we're doing."

(All Management) "They really are a funny guest. A rich, but quite peculiar guest."
(Iger) "They'll spend it all before we rest!"
(All Management) "OH WEEEEELLLLLLL!"

(Myers) "Buy more!"
(Staggs) "Buy more!"
(Crofton) "Buy more!"
(Kalogridis) "Buy more!"
(MacPhee) "Buy more!"
(Iger) "Buy more!"
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We're not worthy! We're not worthy!
 

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