Pre-Trip 2 Broke Guys (now with Table of Contents!)

Important note: First post edited 7/13/17 to make this odyssey easier to follow!

The reason is I started this pre-trip report over a year ago to help plan our most important trip ever (so far) our 10 year wedding anniversary trip.

However, we have AP's, and we took many short "side-trips" along the way. Rather than creating so many Trip Report threads and looking like a total egomaniac, I just added those mini-TR's into this same thread.

People have said it was hard to follow (I can see that.) Someone suggested putting a "table of contents" in the beginning. So that's what I'm doing. Then you can skip to the pages with the other trip reports, or just read the ones pertaining to "the big one" coming up in early September, 2017.

I will post that trip report separately when it finally happens, but will of course link to it here.

Speaking of linking here, here's a little background. This old post details our vow renewals a few years ago, for a very specific reason. If you haven't read my other trip reports or interacted with me very much on the boards, it kind of sets the stage for what's to come. Here's that link:

http://forums.wdwmagic.com/threads/...orporate-disney-into-your-vow-renewal.903761/

What follows is the original first post (from 2/11/16) of this long, long thread. At the end of it, I'll put the table of contents to guide you through the rest of the thread.

I am sitting here in a hotel in Tampa, just an hour away from "home." And I'm thinking about it LOL. Oh, am I thinking about it.

When I'm "home home" - in Fort Lauderdale, I never have time to do more than some quick posts because I am always busy with work.

This is going to be a long-@ss pre-trip report.

Not necessarily this first post, but the report as a whole - by necessity, since the trip isn't until early September 2017. And I know I can use some help and advice in putting this all together - it's a very special trip - and have already begun organizing my thoughts based on discussions on this forum.

The basic premise is this: We are going to spend our 10-year wedding anniversary celebration at WDW, with the centerpiece of that trip to be the biggest dinner we can afford at Victoria & Albert's (hopefully the chef's table.) One of the things we enjoy most about Disney in our forties are the amazing meals at places like the Flying Fish Cafe and the Yachtsman's Steakhouse. I expect this meal will be at least as mind-blowing, but probably more.

The catch is - it costs a freaking fortune (at least to us.) I'm estimating something like $600 to $800 when all is said and done(?) And there is no way I could justify spending that much money on one meal.

Except...we have the Disney Chase Visa card, and have come to rely on this for our last several trips. This has opened doors to new experiences that we couldn't afford before. Instead of getting a 4-day ticket, we started getting AP's. Instead of staying off property, we started staying at Disney Moderates. And loved it!

And - we have a year off (sort of) to save up for this magical trip and important celebration. For the last several years, we've been getting the Florida Resident Weekday Select Annual Pass every other year, never two years in a row. I think it's good to go away and miss it for awhile, especially with all the work being done. Stay away for a year and come back to lots of little surprises. (Like those metal detectors! Ha!) They're fine. Anyway, that's the responsible side of me to say we shouldn't spend that much money every year. (We really shouldn't.)

But the advantage of that in this case is to amass Disney Chase Visa card points for months on end (sort of.) We used up all the rest of our points on our last short trip in January of 2016. But then at the end of the month, we earned more money. It's just sitting there...LOL.

Well, I made a deal with myself - if I can save up that $700 or $800 just in Chase points, then I can justify booking that meal at Victoria & Albert's. So that is the first goal. I know somebody will tell me when is the first day I can book it, and I will make a note on my phone so I don't forget LOL.

Based on January rewards being $146.50, I'm thinking this should be cake. (Mmm...cake...)

I'm not saving up for this September, but next September 2017. Total cake, right?!

Then we have to figure out where to stay. I'd like it to be our first Deluxe (possibly on the special floor with the extra goodies) and probably our first DVC rental. DVC Upside - real cost is less. Downside - can't pay for it with Disney Chase dollars LOL. That is funny, but it is a real consideration.

There's the obvious choice - to stay in the Grand Floridian to be where Victoria & Albert's is.

I don't know if that would be my favorite place in general.

I think my favorite place might be the Polynesian - I like the food & the vibe - and the walking into MK. I think that's a must on this trip - have to be able to walk to somewhere. That would include all of the Boardwalk area properties, which are fine with me as well.

Or AK with the Savannah view.

Then there's the corny and sentimental way - 10 years ago, our honeymoon was to Key West. They have a Key West DVC hotel. We love Olivia's. Somehow it doesn't seem big deal enough or have something special like a footpath to MK lol.

At the very least, a monorail resort, even if not walking distance, would be preferred.

Then we have to figure out whether or not to bring the dog or leave her home, drive or fly, diet for 6 months for the pictures LOL. Maybe this one and only trip would be worth memory maker?

I want to really blow it out - something we will never forget. Go for the upgrades. Pick the right tour or tours. So much to discuss!!

I will end each post in this saga like the parodied "2 Broke Girls" TV show, with the dollar amount of whatever they have left or have made at the end of the show, so you can see where they are in their goal.

So for example, tonight's would be:

$146.50

I'll add in any WDW Gift Cards I might buy or receive in the next year as part of what's saved up for that trip. My free BJ's trial period just expired, so I won't be getting any discounted GC's from them.

Now - the potential issue: there is no way we are not going to go to Disney in some way until September of 2017. We are toying with skipping our usual January or April trip in order to go full-on crazy in September.

But we are also toying with things like my dilemma as I sit here in this hotel with all this time to type. We're less than an hour away. I told this story in more detail at the end of my last trip report thread, so I'll just make it very short: Brian is working in Tampa from the end of January until the middle of February (over three weeks.) Yesterday I packed up our pup and drove up to visit, with our Valentine's Day gifts in tow (mostly specialty sugar-free chocolate dipped pretzels potato chips, oreos, plus peppermint bark, etc. We know we won't see each other for Valentine's Day, so basically tomorrow is it, unless I stay until Saturday morning.

Since no WDW trip was planned, I did not bring either my Tables In Wonderland card, or my Chase rewards gift card. But I called, and confirmed I could go to Guest Services and get another gift card (which of course can be loaded automatically.) There's a nice lunch reservation open. There's a spot for the pup at Best Friends Pet Care for 1/2 day care.

On the one hand - this would be something like a 45 minute to 1 hour drive for Brian from 12:30 to 1:30 to go to a special Disney lunch at 1:50, hang out for a bit, and then drive back 45 minutes to an hour to go to work by 4PM until 4AM. (I would have my own car, spend more money buying Disney records for my record store after lunch, go pick up the dog, and drive home to Fort Lauderdale.)

The other option is to drop the pup off at Petco in Tampa for a shampoo, and then hurry to whatever local restaurant is near that Petco, and meh.

Who would ever forget picking up and driving to WDW just for lunch for Valentine's Day (early) There's a fun story to remember when we're in our 60's LOL.

But it would already deplete our current total towards our V&A goal:

$146.50

OK, that was the first post of this whole thing. Now here comes the table of contents. Separate trip reports will be listed in bold. Regular stuff won't.

Posts 1-11 planning.
Posts 12-18: "The Blip Report" - a spur of the moment, one day drive over to the Yacht Club for Valentine's Day lunch at Captain's Grille (with dog.)
Posts 19-70 planning.
Posts 71-199 (page 4) pre-trip (back pain) & TR for 3-day quickie in September 2016 for Food & Wine (no dog, meeting Tuvalu, car trouble LOL) (skip it if you're only in for the anniversary trip!)
Posts 200-210 stuff. (starts bottom of page 10)
Posts 211-258-ish (begins page 11) "micro-trip" - had to go back up to get our car, might as well visit the Mouse!
Posts 258-ish to 276 planning.
Posts 277-283 (page 14) Pre-trip for almost Christmas at Saratoga Springs
Posts 284-331 planning, chit-chat, Thanksgiving
Posts 332-380 (page 17) That almost Christmas trip at Saratoga Springs
Posts 381-392 (Page 20) mostly chit-chat
Posts 393-561 (starts on page 20) (Several short trips back and forth since Brian had sporadic work in Orlando - all with dog!) Including Flower & Garden, Tiffins, more Tiffins, Valentine's Day again, RoL, and to confuse things, somwhere around #522 I'm at WDW but also planning the September 2017 trip (it was the 180 day mark for ADR's!)
Posts 562-569 chit chat
Posts 570-605 (page 29) - omg another quickie trip, Paddlefish
Posts 606-614 chit chat
Posts 615-657 (page 31) omg another trip - Wishes at Cali Grill (our last time seeing it)
Posts 658-694 chit chat, Record Store Day, Nashville
Posts 695- serious September planning!!

 
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Tony the Tigger

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It's been awhile since AP 35% off deluxes. Could happen, but you probably have the best discount already.
Great choices, BTW. :)

Thanks! I'm more excited now, so I think I made a good choice. Told Brian today.

No luck for next week, however. With the $49 Value nights ending just a few days before I could use one, it was a minimum $200 stay driving up to Nashville, and about a $130 Value resort on the way home. So I'm flying to Nashville! No point driving if I can't stop at WDW lol.

I think I have to book Keys to the Kingdom. I mentioned looking at tours and Brian (who rarely expresses an opinion) said he "would get up early" to see the utilidors. I think KTTK is the only one that does that - unless there is one in Epcot that does it?

That could make for a nice last day (Friday - our actual anniversary.) Get up early, a little club level breakfast snack, get to MK early (assuming they have it that day and it's available, have to check) and that takes us through lunch, a little keepsake pin, and utilidors. Back to the room to chill and then get ready and walk over to V&A for 6:30 dinner. New fireworks after? Depends how late dinner goes, I hear it's long.
 

MinnieM123

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From what I've heard and read, it is only the Keys to the Kingdom tour that goes down into the utilidors at MK. There is a shorter "Marceliine" tour, I believe, but that one does not go into the utilidors. Haven't heard of a tour in EPCOT regarding the utilidors (actually I'm not sure if there are utilidors in EPCOT).

@Tuvalu, do you have any information on the above for Tony? Have you done any of the tours?
 

Tuvalu

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From what I've heard and read, it is only the Keys to the Kingdom tour that goes down into the utilidors at MK. There is a shorter "Marceliine" tour, I believe, but that one does not go into the utilidors. Haven't heard of a tour in EPCOT regarding the utilidors (actually I'm not sure if there are utilidors in EPCOT).

@Tuvalu, do you have any information on the above for Tony? Have you done any of the tours?
You are right on both counts @MinnieM123 ~ only KTTK goes into the utilidors at MK and there are no utilidors at Epcot.
The only tour I've done is Behind the Seeds at Epcot (very good). Woody and Em did the Epcot Segway tour (which is no longer offered.) I have always resisted KTTK because I don't want the magic to be spoiled for me. ;)
 

MinnieM123

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You are right on both counts @MinnieM123 ~ only KTTK goes into the utilidors at MK and there are no utilidors at Epcot.
The only tour I've done is Behind the Seeds at Epcot (very good). Woody and Em did the Epcot Segway tour (which is no longer offered.) I have always resisted KTTK because I don't want the magic to be spoiled for me. ;)

Thanks for the input. I know what you mean about being kept in suspense and not wanting to know some of the behind the scenes trivia. I'm like that, too. As often as I've considered one of these tours, I've always backed off for that reason. (Ignorance is bliss! :joyfull: :joyfull: ) But also, the cost and time involved has been a factor as well.

The only exception to the above is the Behind the Seeds tour at The Land. Not only is it reasonably priced and only takes around an hour, but I've actually gone on that one about 4 times over the years. It's kinda like a horticultural education for me, not so much about how The Land pavilion is run on a daily basis. I always recommend this one to people. (And for those who buy the Birnbaum's Guide to WDW, there is a coupon in the back.)
 

Tony the Tigger

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From what I've heard and read, it is only the Keys to the Kingdom tour that goes down into the utilidors at MK. There is a shorter "Marceliine" tour, I believe, but that one does not go into the utilidors. Haven't heard of a tour in EPCOT regarding the utilidors (actually I'm not sure if there are utilidors in EPCOT).

@Tuvalu, do you have any information on the above for Tony? Have you done any of the tours?

I've heard there are some under Future World. I know there is an Epcot FW tour but the description only mentions going to cast services, it doesn't specify utilidors.

Apparently the "Backstage Magic" tour does Utilidors also - plus Epcot and Wilderness lodge. It's $275 each for 7 hours vs $99 each (actually $85 with AP discount) for KTTK's 5 hours, which is looking more more like a bargain.
 

Tony the Tigger

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The Marceline tour is very nice, I think you would both enjoy it. It's relatively short, quite inexpensive ( I think it was around $35 each when we went a few years ago ) and there isn't a lot of "backstage" but enough to keep it interesting and go on a few rides. Didn't spoil the magic at all. Plus, it was literally days before Snow White closed. We got to ride that dark ride twice – once normally, and once with the lights on! And then she was gone.

I did KTTK about 17 years ago, before I met Brian, which is why I was looking for another option with utilidors. But I'm happy to do it again. I'm sure I've forgotten more than I remember, and I'm sure it's been tweaked since then!
 

dclfan

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I did keys to the kingdom most recently about 2 years ago and it was excellent. Your going to love it. Even a different tour guide then your previous time will change the whole experience.

Also there aren't utilidors per se in Epcot but the undiscovered future world takes you behind the scenes in the seas, the land, and I think imagination. My memory is a little fuzzy. They also take you into costuming which is my opinion was one of the coolest behind the scenes stops in all of the tours. Rows and rows of all the different cast members uniforms was so awesome. We also saw the princess dressing room and the wig and makeup room. All very cool. Also you got to see where the illuminations globe is stored and a little behind the scenes on that. I would definitely recommend this tour as well if you like KTTK. I think we also got discounted lunch in China at the end of the tour.
 

Tony the Tigger

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OK we have Tiffins booked for our second night with three other friends who happen to be there the same night. We know that's a guaranteed winner.

The first night, I'm leaning Jiko or Boma. Going to check AP discounts and so forth, but probably Jiko. I think it's great to start off the trip with something new and we don't often get to AKL, although we did eat at Sanaa once.

With the last night at Victoria and Albert's, that just leaves Friday night open. I keep going back to the idea of flying fish. There are sentimental reasons as well as I know Craig the bartender will take good care of us, probably better than anywhere else. And while the entire menu isn't mind blowing, I've been meaning to justify the price of that lobster pasta dish. LOL.

The next big thing to work on would be Pandora fast passes.

And this just came out today:

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Tony the Tigger

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My guess is that you'll love Jiko. That's supposed to be one of the premier restaurants (in all of Disney), and I've read some outstanding reviews. Looking forward to hearing about your experience there.

Seconding @MinnieM123! I do like Boma but it's a totally different experience from Jiko. I think you'd like the Jiko experience...and the Jiko wine list!

Yes! Plus I just looked at the menu and it looks pretty adventurous - and it's on the AP 20% off list.

ETA - booked for our first night! Late (9pm) so we can hang at the park late. Gotta make sure we do Pandora one way or another!

I have a feeling we're going to do more "destination attractions" vs general roaming, and spending more time chilling at the resorts.
 
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21stamps

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Yes! Plus I just looked at the menu and it looks pretty adventurous - and it's on the AP 20% off list.

ETA - booked for our first night! Late (9pm) so we can hang at the park late. Gotta make sure we do Pandora one way or another!

I have a feeling we're going to do more "destination attractions" vs general roaming, and spending more time chilling at the resorts.

I have Jiko booked for our trip.. any word on if the 20% is being extended? Our reservation is for 12/1.

Random ancient throwback pics of me in the 70s showing Disney love. Feeling sappy.

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I love old photos! They bring out the sappy in all of us. Great pics! LOVE the pooh cake!
 

Tony the Tigger

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He still is!

You really do, still look the same. Just taller!! Thanks for sharing!!

That's very nice, but have you guys been hitting the sauce? :eek:;):angelic:

So we're at 93-ish days now (unless we leave the night of the 4th, then it's 92. I floated that idea the other day and was not met with any protest. We'll play that by ear for now.) I feel like I'm going to wake up and be two weeks out and I won't have done some of the prep that still needs to be done - not so much ADR's or reservations, but the little details I've mentioned (or not) along the way: the personalized picture frames, the customized matching tees (I've been looking and finding almost the right one but not quite) and the as yet undeveloped photos from our wedding. (They require special attention. We had a professional photographer for a little while, and then we had disposable cameras from a wedding supply company of some sort on each table. When I tried to get those developed at CVS right after the wedding, they came out all grainy and crummy. We think the cameras may have been really old. A few years later, I took the negatives to a better photo place and had them redo a few (more expensive) and they came out much better (probably still not the usual photo quality but much better.) So we have a whole bunch of cameras worth of negatives that I've been putting off having developed because of the cost - wedding photos we've never seen that were taken by guests at each table - including a few family members who have since passed away. I'd like to get those all done as well as possible, make an album or two, and bring them up as a surprise.
 

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