1986 - The House of the Future: Week 7

[PerGron]

What if this Al Capone character was the same person who is the Gatspy-type figure? There’s the underlying mystery of a man who controls the Hollywood image and the gangster underground?

I like this

 

[Outbound]

I like this

We could potentially have three wings: the New York Business Magnate, the Hollywood Celebrity, and the Chicago Crime Boss, each dedicated to this character's many walks of life.

 

[Mickeynerd17]

We could potentially have three wings: the New York Business Magnate, the Hollywood Celebrity, and the Chicago Crime Boss, each dedicated to this character's many walks of life.

Good idea! I'm imagining the building shape to be an H or a U, which would accommodate the three wings, and we would have separate pricing for each wing, presumably going (highest to lowest) Hollywood, New York, and Crime Boss?

 

[NigelChanning]

Good idea! I'm imagining the building shape to be an H or a U, which would accommodate the three wings, and we would have separate pricing for each wing, presumably going (highest to lowest) Hollywood, New York, and Crime Boss?

Each experience can be vastly different. Sort of like a choose your own adventure story!

 

[Pi on my Cake]

I'm liking these ideas! The three wings all blend together yet feel distinct. Lots of options for themes for all the normal hotel stuff. Both from the mature adult angle and from the more cheesy kid focused stuff like kid clubs and character dining.

I'm also not against things like Egypt and Crystal Palace themes. But I think the Gangster Gatsby is my favorite and seems like our ideas are all coming together nicely

 

[D Hulk]

Heck yea!
Team Architecture here we go!!!!!!!

Alrighty Team Architecture! Let's once again look over some inspiration images, this time 1920s Jazz Age mansions from the Gold Coast of Long Island, and pick which styles we like for our hotel.

Oheka Castle, built between 1914 & 1919. "Cheateauesque" style. Second largest private home in U.S. Was partial inspiration for Fitzerald's original Great Gatsby estate.

Kings Point Estate. I think some of the Gatsby movie was filmed here.

Harbor Hill Mansion, another Fitzgerald influence, built 1899-1902, no longer standing. Gilded Age style.

Beacon Towers, a Vanderbilt estate built 1917-1918, also no longer standing. Style considered "Gothic fantasy." Another Fitzgerald influence.

Hempstead House, part of the Guggenheim Estate. Designed in imitation of Irish castles.

Vanderbilt's Breakers Mansion, in Newport, Rhode Island. Neo Italian Renaissance style, built 1895. Possibly the most famous mansion in the U.S.
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I think having one entire structure might not be the best idea for a large-scale hotel.

We could make a lower-value structure that could be modeled off of the groundskeeper's cottage.

It seems you've changed your mind since posting this. I feel a single structure is fine for our hotel. The Disney flagship hotels I've personally experienced (mostly the ones in Asia) are all single structure, with H or U shapes as you say, or even the stately Y. I think WDW is unique with more expansive hotel grounds and multiple structures.

For reference, here's Shanghai Disneyland Hotel which sits south of a lagoon facing its Disneyland much like our hotel will.

They have the Y shape. Boats to the park. Castle fireworks viewing platforms. Think the general layout & grounds are a good reference point for what we're doing.​

 

[AceAstro]

Alrighty Team Architecture! Let's once again look over some inspiration images, this time 1920s Jazz Age mansions from the Gold Coast of Long Island, and pick which styles we like for our hotel.

Oheka Castle, built between 1914 & 1919. "Cheateauesque" style. Second largest private home in U.S. Was partial inspiration for Fitzerald's original Great Gatsby estate.

Kings Point Estate. I think some of the Gatsby movie was filmed here.

Harbor Hill Mansion, another Fitzgerald influence, built 1899-1902, no longer standing. Gilded Age style.

Beacon Towers, a Vanderbilt estate built 1917-1918, also no longer standing. Style considered "Gothic fantasy." Another Fitzgerald influence.

Hempstead House, part of the Guggenheim Estate. Designed in imitation of Irish castles.

Vanderbilt's Breakers Mansion, in Newport, Rhode Island. Neo Italian Renaissance style, built 1895. Possibly the most famous mansion in the U.S.
​

It seems you've changed your mind since posting this. I feel a single structure is fine for our hotel. The Disney flagship hotels I've personally experienced (mostly the ones in Asia) are all single structure, with H or U shapes as you say, or even the stately Y. I think WDW is unique with more expansive hotel grounds and multiple structures.

For reference, here's Shanghai Disneyland Hotel which sits south of a lagoon facing its Disneyland much like our hotel will.

They have the Y shape. Boats to the park. Castle fireworks viewing platforms. Think the general layout & grounds are a good reference point for what we're doing.​

I think another style that could work is Disneyland Paris’

Two large U’s connected. Allows each U to be a theme and the lobby/ connecting area the third theme.

 

[Mickeynerd17]

Alrighty Team Architecture! Let's once again look over some inspiration images, this time 1920s Jazz Age mansions from the Gold Coast of Long Island, and pick which styles we like for our hotel.

Oheka Castle, built between 1914 & 1919. "Cheateauesque" style. Second largest private home in U.S. Was partial inspiration for Fitzerald's original Great Gatsby estate.

Kings Point Estate. I think some of the Gatsby movie was filmed here.

Harbor Hill Mansion, another Fitzgerald influence, built 1899-1902, no longer standing. Gilded Age style.

Beacon Towers, a Vanderbilt estate built 1917-1918, also no longer standing. Style considered "Gothic fantasy." Another Fitzgerald influence.

Hempstead House, part of the Guggenheim Estate. Designed in imitation of Irish castles.

Vanderbilt's Breakers Mansion, in Newport, Rhode Island. Neo Italian Renaissance style, built 1895. Possibly the most famous mansion in the U.S.
​

It seems you've changed your mind since posting this. I feel a single structure is fine for our hotel. The Disney flagship hotels I've personally experienced (mostly the ones in Asia) are all single structure, with H or U shapes as you say, or even the stately Y. I think WDW is unique with more expansive hotel grounds and multiple structures.

For reference, here's Shanghai Disneyland Hotel which sits south of a lagoon facing its Disneyland much like our hotel will.

They have the Y shape. Boats to the park. Castle fireworks viewing platforms. Think the general layout & grounds are a good reference point for what we're doing.​

The first picture is the closest to what I'm envisioning, but I would like to see it taller, grander, and more fancy ornaments and stuff, plus an epic water feature out front.

We could have three pools for each section for the outside, a beach in the back behind the pool, and an oversized car garage could be the bus stop!

Another quick idea, we could name the V&A restaurant "Daisy's"

 

[Mickeynerd17]

Each experience can be vastly different. Sort of like a choose your own adventure story!

Sounds like Star Wars Galactic Starcruiser, which would make a sweet model for the story.

We could also have an interactive adventure thing similar to the MagicQuest found at Great Wolf Lodge.

 

[Mickeynerd17]

I think another style that could work is Disneyland Paris’

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Two large U’s connected. Allows each U to be a theme and the lobby/ connecting area the third theme.

I will say, I'm not sure about the connected U idea, because I think it would be more stunning/impressive to have a big fat lobby, sort-of like Animal Kingdom Lodge style, where there's a main lobby along with a bar/restaurant interweaved through rockwork.

 

[AceAstro]

I will say, I'm not sure about the connected U idea, because I think it would be more stunning/impressive to have a big fat lobby, sort-of like Animal Kingdom Lodge style, where there's a main lobby along with a bar/restaurant interweaved through rockwork.

That’s fair. The lobby isn’t part of just the thin line as it is also quite large

With smaller hallways off of it but I know what you mean

 

[DashHaber]

We could potentially have three wings: the New York Business Magnate, the Hollywood Celebrity, and the Chicago Crime Boss, each dedicated to this character's many walks of life.

That is a really interesting idea. The Celebrity wing can reflect that posh and fun-loving image he presents, the Magnate wing could have a more sleek and professional design, and the Crime Boss wing would be more rough and tumble in look (perhaps even with a speakeasy in this area).

 

[Mickeynerd17]

That is a really interesting idea. The Celebrity wing can reflect that posh and fun-loving image he presents, the Magnate wing could have a more sleek and professional design, and the Crime Boss wing would be more rough and tumble in look (perhaps even with a speakeasy in this area).

Yes! A speakeasy would make the perfect resort club for guests, since only certain people who know how to get in there would access it.

 

[Mickeynerd17]

Ok, it seems that we are set on a Gatsby Hotel, but I just want to make sure if there are any other ideas people want to submit for different hotel themes before we move forward. I want to make sure that we consider all our options before moving forward. Thanks!

 

[DashHaber]

In fact, what if we had the family-friendly restaurant in the Celebrity wing, the signature table service restaurant in the Magnate wing, and that speakeasy in the Crime Boss wing?

 

[NigelChanning]

In fact, what if we had the family-friendly restaurant in the Celebrity wing, the signature table service restaurant in the Magnate wing, and that speakeasy in the Crime Boss wing?

A character meal where local crime bosses offer you a deal you can’t refuse.

 

[AceAstro]

A character meal where local crime bosses offer you a deal you can’t refuse.

You come into my house on the day my daughter is to be married, and you ask me to do murder for a good meal for money

 

[NigelChanning]

You come into my house on the day my daughter is to be married, and you ask me to do murder for a good meal for money

And worst of all, you disgraced my grandmama.

 

[spacemt354]

Gotta have da gabagool on the menu

 

[D Hulk]

Avast, me hearties! We can safely assume now that we're pressing ahead with the Gatsby Gangster idea. Tentative hotel name: Disney's Grand New Englander.

There's a lot of talk about immersive thematic experiences and backstory. To refine this, let's look again at a potential job list, with major elements in bold. Other hotel elements can be folded into these major tasks, while elements like check-in & lobby can combine.

• Exterior grounds
• Vehicle drop off
• Entry
• Check-in
• Concierge desk & luggage storage
• Computer room + kiddie area
• Lobby (& other common areas)
• 1 - 2 gift shops
• Conference center
• Pool area(s)
• Gym + spa
• Signature table service restaurant (akin to Victoria & Albert's)
• Family-friendly restaurant (includes a breakfast buffet + character dining)
• Bar & lounge (perhaps akin to Trader Sam's)
• Hotel rooms (standard & deluxe)
• Hotel penthouse suite(s)
• Wedding chapel (optional)

That's 8 sections for eight players, though I'd imagine we could have e.g. a combined Team Restaurants of 2 or 3 (where the majority of our immersive theming will appear), plus someone to deliver an overall hotel intro & mission statement.

Speaking personally, I love the gangster story idea, but I feel it shouldn't be too overwhelming for hotel guests. This is our flagship hotel, akin to Grand Californian where the Disney touches are present but not overwhelming at all times. Let's NOT make a niche boutique experience like the Galactic Starliner where guests are paying specifically for a themed experience 100% of the time.