DAK “Zootopia” is being created for the Tree of Life theater

[Professortango1]

For the love of god, Zootopia is NOT PROBLEMATIC. No group of animals represents any particular group! There is nothing insulting in its allegory, and allegories do not need to be perfectly accurate to have value to kids! This movie does not harm minorities, its message is going to hold up forever, and I’m fed up with this film constantly being misunderstood and vilified. If you’re truly okay with the franchise, why would you attack and totally misrepresent its themes like that?

What about the many, many kids of color who have no issue with Nick and Judy, and would love to see them (more) at the parks, regardless of the location?

Implying that minorities' natural state is feral and a danger to us is problematic. That drugs simply unlock a minority's natural state. This isn't a misunderstanding of the film considering the drug references they put in the finished film. And I can enjoy things that are problematic.

I loved Splash Mountain and enjoy the animated sequences in Song of the South. I love Anything Goes despite the yellow-face comedy which occurs in the second act. People love RENT despite the fact all of the characters are whiny sociopaths who celebrate that Angel made their money by killing a dog earlier that day. Problematic doesn't mean off-limits or banned. Heck, the toons in Roger Rabbit are also meant to represent Black Actors in early Hollywood and their communities being destroyed for the freeway system. And its one of the my favourite films of all time.

And as for placement, theme parks are an artform and many of us love that artform. Sure, Disney could just shove a Moana ride in Galaxy's Edge if they wanted to and many people wouldn't care because they get a fun Moana ride. But you're likely to find most in forums like this being critical of such a decision because it betrays the artform.

 

[Advisable Joseph]

That drugs simply unlock a minority's natural state. This isn't a misunderstanding of the film

This is a massive spoiler, but

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No. It makes mammals hyper-agressive, even rabbits!

 

[Advisable Joseph]

Wrote that last reply too quickly. This is related:

Is “going savage” not in the version you watch?

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This turned out to be a fallacy

Anyway, Better Zoogether appears to be how animals adapted to different biomes, and how animals and humans are all part of the Tree of Life, so....

Can we please, PLEASE stop with the damn backlash over this idea?

I think people are taking a comment park designer Joe Rohde made about the Shanghai Disneyland land to extremes:

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The animals are proxies for humans and human issues rather than animals in their own right facing animal-related issues....

The last part applies more to the land than to the movie, and as you have seen, many don't really understand the movie.

 

[communicorn96]

Why can't you understand that the theme of the park matter to some more than some silly IP. It's not just Zootopia, but Cars and Encanto

People can hold that opinion, but that idea carries no weight with the company that built the park.

 

[marxoo]

Implying that minorities' natural state is feral and a danger to us is problematic. That drugs simply unlock a minority's natural state. This isn't a misunderstanding of the film considering the drug references they put in the finished film. And I can enjoy things that are problematic.

I loved Splash Mountain and enjoy the animated sequences in Song of the South. I love Anything Goes despite the yellow-face comedy which occurs in the second act. People love RENT despite the fact all of the characters are whiny sociopaths who celebrate that Angel made their money by killing a dog earlier that day. Problematic doesn't mean off-limits or banned. Heck, the toons in Roger Rabbit are also meant to represent Black Actors in early Hollywood and their communities being destroyed for the freeway system. And its one of the my favourite films of all time.

And as for placement, theme parks are an artform and many of us love that artform. Sure, Disney could just shove a Moana ride in Galaxy's Edge if they wanted to and many people wouldn't care because they get a fun Moana ride. But you're likely to find most in forums like this being critical of such a decision because it betrays the artform.

Implying that minorities' natural state is feral and a danger to us is problematic. That drugs simply unlock a minority's natural state. This isn't a misunderstanding of the film considering the drug references they put in the finished film. And I can enjoy things that are problematic.

I loved Splash Mountain and enjoy the animated sequences in Song of the South. I love Anything Goes despite the yellow-face comedy which occurs in the second act. People love RENT despite the fact all of the characters are whiny sociopaths who celebrate that Angel made their money by killing a dog earlier that day. Problematic doesn't mean off-limits or banned. Heck, the toons in Roger Rabbit are also meant to represent Black Actors in early Hollywood and their communities being destroyed for the freeway system. And its one of the my favourite films of all time.

And as for placement, theme parks are an artform and many of us love that artform. Sure, Disney could just shove a Moana ride in Galaxy's Edge if they wanted to and many people wouldn't care because they get a fun Moana ride. But you're likely to find most in forums like this being critical of such a decision because it betrays the artform.

I don’t care if this is a spoiler: THAT DID NOT HAPPEN IN THE MOVIE. When you call it problematic, that is not a fair criticism on Zootopia, that is a flat out unfair attack. That theory by the end was proven to be fake. Again, THIS MOVIE IS NOT problematic, and I’ve had enough of people pushing that agenda against it.

I’m not bothered by the fact you want the attraction somewhere else, I’m just tired of the backlash against the property because it’s misunderstood.

 

[BrianLo]

I will reiterate from way back - It’s tough to be a bug had a good run. Ok with using Zootopia in a standalone attraction inside the tree of life. The issue is do they even have the imagineers left that can pull off even this smaller attraction. I think most of them left and are opening Epic Universe

Talent flow started reversing 18 months ago. Anyone’s guess if the right people are on this project, but Disney has an increasing number of the Epic team roaming their halls.

 

[Agent H]

Talent flow started reversing 18 months ago. Anyone’s guess if the right people are on this project, but Disney has an increasing number of the Epic team roaming their halls.

Disney as all the people that worked on epic universe come back

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

Dinoland MAY be gone guys! It takes a special type to say something may be gone as its being demolished.

You are exaggerating the words they used to make a point. It’s silly.

 

[Prince-1]

I don’t care if this is a spoiler: THAT DID NOT HAPPEN IN THE MOVIE. When you call it problematic, that is not a fair criticism on Zootopia, that is a flat out unfair attack. That theory by the end was proven to be fake. Again, THIS MOVIE IS NOT problematic, and I’ve had enough of people pushing that agenda against it.

I’m not bothered by the fact you want the attraction somewhere else, I’m just tired of the backlash against the property because it’s misunderstood.

Well thanks for spoiling the movie. I was going to watch it for the first time but I guess I will skip it now. I now plan on watching Titanic after all these years so please don't tell me how it ends or I will be really upset.

 

[𝐌𝖆𝖓 𝖎𝖓 𝐖𝖊𝖇]

Well thanks for spoiling the movie. I was going to watch it for the first time but I guess I will skip it now. I now plan on watching Titanic after all these years so please don't tell me how it ends or I will be really upset.

The ship completes a successful voyage. Rose reluctantly marries the snobby rich guy to secure her future and Jack having won a few poker games aboard the ship has the financial means to enroll in the Paris School of Art to better hone his artistic ability.

The movie ends with an much older Rose telling her great granddaughter about Jack whilst staring fondly at a framed hand-drawn illustration of the Titanic in her family-owned art gallery. Signature at the bottom reads: To my Heart of the Ocean, J.D.

 

[MisterPenguin]

If all creatures of sentience are equal in Zootopia... what about intermarriage amongst its citizen? Will we see a bunny/fox hybrid children?

 

[Agent H]

If all creatures of sentience are equal in Zootopia... what about intermarriage amongst its citizen? Will we see a bunny/fox hybrid children?

You can already see that on deviate art.

 

[lazyboy97o]

You can already see that on deviate art.

TMI

 

[AidenRodriguez731]

Implying that minorities' natural state is feral and a danger to us is problematic. That drugs simply unlock a minority's natural state. This isn't a misunderstanding of the film considering the drug references they put in the finished film. And I can enjoy things that are problematic.

I loved Splash Mountain and enjoy the animated sequences in Song of the South. I love Anything Goes despite the yellow-face comedy which occurs in the second act. People love RENT despite the fact all of the characters are whiny sociopaths who celebrate that Angel made their money by killing a dog earlier that day. Problematic doesn't mean off-limits or banned. Heck, the toons in Roger Rabbit are also meant to represent Black Actors in early Hollywood and their communities being destroyed for the freeway system. And its one of the my favourite films of all time.

And as for placement, theme parks are an artform and many of us love that artform. Sure, Disney could just shove a Moana ride in Galaxy's Edge if they wanted to and many people wouldn't care because they get a fun Moana ride. But you're likely to find most in forums like this being critical of such a decision because it betrays the artform.

They literally say in the movie that all species can go savage. It was just used against the predators only. You not understanding the message of the movie kinda strengthens the movies point imo.

All animals going savage has the same overall effect. It’s similar to someone being drugged. Judy’s uncle attacked her mother and went crazy.

The Animals “primal” state is just how they naturally behave in the wild and anyone who knows herbivores knows they can be just as viscious as predators.

 

[Professortango1]

They literally say in the movie that all species can go savage. It was just used against the predators only. You not understanding the message of the movie kinda strengthens the movies point imo.

All animals going savage has the same overall effect. It’s similar to someone being drugged. Judy’s uncle attacked her mother and went crazy.

The Animals “primal” state is just how they naturally behave in the wild and anyone who knows herbivores knows they can be just as viscious as predators.

Yes, it has been awhile since I had watched the film so I forgot the details of the 3rd act. That's why I shared videos and articles discussing the films message.

 

[Advisable Joseph]

What about the many, many kids of color who have no issue with Nick and Judy, and would love to see them (more) at the parks, regardless of the location?

Keep in mind Zootopia was the Best Animated Feature in the African-American Film Critics Association Awards 2016.

Also, Disney likely ran surveys about this topic, so any apparent offensiveness is mostly an Internet and academia phenomenon, people watching the movie with the wrong frame of mind being amplified by echo chambers.

Don't worry.

EDIT: I think this is still on-topic because it goes to the suitability of Zootopia for US Disney Parks.

 

[Professortango1]

Keep in mind Zootopia was the Best Animated Feature in the African-American Film Critics Association Awards 2016.

Also, Disney likely ran surveys about this topic, so any apparent offensiveness is mostly an Internet and academia phenomenon, people watching the movie with the wrong frame of mind being amplified by echo chambers.

Don't worry.

EDIT: I think this is still on-topic because it goes to the suitability of Zootopia for US Disney Parks.

I know when I saw the movie in 2016, the allegory was pretty clear and the problematic parts of the allegory were readily apparent. Luckily I also found the movie to have good animation and great voice acting so I appreciated it despite its problems.

 

[MisterPenguin]

It's a deep dive into atavism.

 

[marxoo]

I know when I saw the movie in 2016, the allegory was pretty clear and the problematic parts of the allegory were readily apparent. Luckily I also found the movie to have good animation and great voice acting so I appreciated it despite its problems.

Those problems you’re referring to DON’T EXIST IN THIS STORY. What is it going to take to get you to see that all of the issue with the animals aren’t meant to be a direct mirror on reality? There is nothing problematic here.

Yes, you’ve made it clear that you appreciate Zootopia 1, but you’re also accusing it of something it doesn’t even do.

 

[lazyboy97o]

They literally say in the movie that all species can go savage. It was just used against the predators only. You not understanding the message of the movie kinda strengthens the movies point imo.

All animals going savage has the same overall effect. It’s similar to someone being drugged. Judy’s uncle attacked her mother and went crazy.

The Animals “primal” state is just how they naturally behave in the wild and anyone who knows herbivores knows they can be just as viscious as predators.

Prey going savage doesn’t include them trying to eat others.