DAK “Zootopia” is being created for the Tree of Life theater

ToTBellHop

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from the begining animal kingdom was suppose to have a fantastical element. That dragon's still on a lot of signage. A city of fantastical talking animals makes sense for an animal park.
It’s a human city where the people happen to have fur.

If they were building a Lion King land, I’d be on board. Those animals behave like animals. And they sing. About animal things.

Similarly, in ITTBAB, yes, the bugs talk and sing. But they talk and sing about being bugs, not about…vehicle registrations at the DMV or some other such nonsense.
 

ToTBellHop

Well-Known Member
could a human man live in Little Rodentia? It's a fictional city with neighborhoods built to cater to needs and biomes of specific animals. That could be fun in a theme park.
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The animals dress and act like humans. They live in a city that humans would build, not rhinos, rabbits, or foxes.

That's not the case in The Lion King. They're lions acting like lions.
 

James Alucobond

Well-Known Member
Counterpoint. Lions dont make every animal in the area come to a rock to look at their baby.
There are parts of The Lion King that are naturalistic and others that are animal-Hamlet. The former would be appropriate for Animal Kingdom whereas the latter should not be the focus. For Zootopia, on the other hand, you really need to explore things from outside the scope of the film to begin to scratch at themes appropriate for the park. Yes, you could probably use the characters somewhat appropriately as "hosts" who talk about and comment on animals and biomes from our world through the lens of their parallel world, but it would then have basically nothing to do with the IP aside from being able to shove established characters at you completely divorced from their context and setting.
 

communicorn96

New Member
but it would then have basically nothing to do with the IP aside from being able to shove established characters at you completely divorced from their context and setting.
I think we're taking things too seriously. The parks exists to sell bubble wands and plushies.

Before the advent of home video, the parks existed to remind people of Disney Media, (now simply called IP.) The Media (IP) existed to promote the parks.

A lot of talent and creativity has gone into the parks and they can be very fun, but at the end of the day they are very elaborate bubble wand strip malls.

Lets not pretend the popular talking animals can't be in the animal park to sell bubble wands.
 

ToTBellHop

Well-Known Member
I think we're taking things too seriously. The parks exists to sell bubble wands and plushies.

Before the advent of home video, the parks existed to remind people of Disney Media, (now simply called IP.) The Media (IP) existed to promote the parks.

A lot of talent and creativity has gone into the parks and they can be very fun, but at the end of the day they are very elaborate bubble wand strip malls.

Lets not pretend the popular talking animals can't be in the animal park to sell bubble wands.
You're describing Magic Kingdom.

DAK has historically aspired to be something more, although that is being watered-down now.
 

Disgruntled Walt

Well-Known Member
In the Parks
No
Yes, you could probably use the characters somewhat appropriately as "hosts" who talk about and comment on animals and biomes from our world through the lens of their parallel world, but it would then have basically nothing to do with the IP aside from being able to shove established characters at you completely divorced from their context and setting.
There is no Animal Kingdom-justification for Gazelle singing that song in this show, but I'm sure she will.
 

Agent H

Well-Known Member
I think we're taking things too seriously. The parks exists to sell bubble wands and plushies.

Before the advent of home video, the parks existed to remind people of Disney Media, (now simply called IP.) The Media (IP) existed to promote the parks.

A lot of talent and creativity has gone into the parks and they can be very fun, but at the end of the day they are very elaborate bubble wand strip malls.

Lets not pretend the popular talking animals can't be in the animal park to sell bubble wands.
The park exists to sell bubble wands and plushies great! Let’s tear out the tree of life and replace it with the Zootopia cityscape! Let’s replace expedition Everest with oakan’s sliding sleighs! Let’s fill in the rivers of America and put in a cars ri- oh wait.
 

communicorn96

New Member
The park exists to sell bubble wands and plushies great! Let’s tear out the tree of life and replace it with the Zootopia cityscape! Let’s replace expedition Everest with oakan’s sliding sleighs! Let’s fill in the rivers of America and put in a cars ri- oh wait.
I am not defending it. Obviously we all get attached to certain aspects of the parks, and we can all be a lil critical. The company makes it clear, the parks are not a museum and they're going to constantly change. To keep moving bubble wands.

It was not always so.
When did the Disneyland Emporium open?
 

James Alucobond

Well-Known Member
I am not defending it. Obviously we all get attached to certain aspects of the parks, and we can all be a lil critical. The company makes it clear, the parks are not a museum and they're going to constantly change. To keep moving bubble wands.
There is a bit of a difference between publicly shifting the focus of a park and completely ignoring the supposedly still-honored core tenets of the park. Success notwithstanding, AT LEAST with Hollywood Studios there was a stated move away from a working studio toward the idea of stepping into lands from movies. Similarly, with EPCOT, there was a redefinition of Future World as Worlds Celebration, Nature, and Discovery (again, implementation questionable). If they want to contradict very basic thematic statements from the progenitor of Animal Kingdom, they should explain how they’re evolving the theme, not just pretend like everything is the same as it’s ever been. Thankfully, the switch to Tropical Americas and the minimization of the Zootopia influence have mostly made this unnecessary.
 

Castle Cake Apologist

Well-Known Member
I think we're taking things too seriously. The parks exists to sell bubble wands and plushies.

Before the advent of home video, the parks existed to remind people of Disney Media, (now simply called IP.) The Media (IP) existed to promote the parks.

A lot of talent and creativity has gone into the parks and they can be very fun, but at the end of the day they are very elaborate bubble wand strip malls.

Lets not pretend the popular talking animals can't be in the animal park to sell bubble wands.

You serious? The parks were quite literally designed and built by artists.

Themed design is art is art is art.
 

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