DAK “Zootopia” is being created for the Tree of Life theater

Professortango1

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Finally a replacement I’m not sad about. Bugs was fun because I was an older kid when I first saw it, but watching my own kids hide under the seats crying not so good of a time, which is fine except AK is lacking in kid friendly shows/attractions or just attractions in general. FWIW my kids love the old AK sing along and I wish they could have just updated the script with Flik and kept the bug characters but made it less about sensory discomfort. But still not a huge loss, a fresh show to check out, and fingers crossed we can still take our annual pic of picking the monkeys nose right before the waiting area. Hoping Flik gets a new spot and Bugs Life isn’t totally forgotten, even a M&G.
The people who couldn't handle TTBAB I bet are the same people who say Pixar Pal-Around/Mickey's Fun Wheel is the scariest ride. I grew up with Alien Encounter and Snow White's Scary Adventures. What happened to us?
 

Agent H

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It was an actual bookstore which had a bakery attached - the way a bookstore has a coffee shop. They used to host book signings there - I got my Pirates of the Caribbean book signed by Jason Surell for example.
Wow that actually sounds like a dream come true for me a bookstore and a bakery!🤩
 

DisneyRoy

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The people who couldn't handle TTBAB I bet are the same people who say Pixar Pal-Around/Mickey's Fun Wheel is the scariest ride. I grew up with Alien Encounter and Snow White's Scary Adventures. What happened to us?
Uh....Mickey's Fun Wheel should DEFINITELY be renamed Mickey's wheel of death. No way in heck will I ever find myself on that thing! Alien and Snow White though? No issues with those.
 

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
The people who couldn't handle TTBAB I bet are the same people who say Pixar Pal-Around/Mickey's Fun Wheel is the scariest ride. I grew up with Alien Encounter and Snow White's Scary Adventures. What happened to us?
Phobias are tough to break if you have one.

People, and just about all mammals often have phobias related to snakes, spiders (or all bugs), prey animals (just try roaring at a toddler), or any animal (fear of cats/dogs), and heights, etc...

A lot of the phobic response is hardwired. We evolved it to stay alive and not be the species that went extinct because we thought it was fun to play with snakes.

I have a phobia of drops. The weightlessness sends signals through my body that I'm "falling" and the body panics to get me to do something about it. I'm getting better at drops, tho. I've graduated to family coasters!

And as I mentioned above, I thought it funny that not just children, but grown adults absolutely shrieked in fear at ITTBAB's drop of incredibly fake spiders. Incredibly. Fake. And yet, the screams.

Likewise I can go through a haunted house with people jumping out at who are carrying running chain saws (minus the chain), and be completely unfazed. Meanwhile others lose their... stuff.

So, it's not about being tough. Sure in the "old days" children were raised in environments that habituated them to certain stimuli that modern folks are phobic to. But I'd like to see how a Dickensian waif would respond to a four story drop on a coaster.
 

Professortango1

Well-Known Member
Phobias are tough to break if you have one.

People, and just about all mammals often have phobias related to snakes, spiders (or all bugs), prey animals (just try roaring at a toddler), or any animal (fear of cats/dogs), and heights, etc...

A lot of the phobic response is hardwired. We evolved it to stay alive and not be the species that went extinct because we thought it was fun to play with snakes.

I have a phobia of drops. The weightlessness sends signals through my body that I'm "falling" and the body panics to get me to do something about it. I'm getting better at drops, tho. I've graduated to family coasters!

And as I mentioned above, I thought it funny that not just children, but grown adults absolutely shrieked in fear at ITTBAB's drop of incredibly fake spiders. Incredibly. Fake. And yet, the screams.

Likewise I can go through a haunted house with people jumping out at who are carrying running chain saws (minus the chain), and be completely unfazed. Meanwhile others lose their... stuff.

So, it's not about being tough. Sure in the "old days" children were raised in environments that habituated them to certain stimuli that modern folks are phobic to. But I'd like to see how a Dickensian waif would respond to a four story drop on a coaster.
Oh I get the reaction to the spiders. I have a big fear of spiders, but that scene is designed to be scary. So when I get scared and creeped out, it's a good thing. I would try and remember, as a kid, which side of the car had more Witch scenes or attic pop-up ghosts because they scared me. But I also still wanted to go on the rides and appreciate the fun in being genuinely scared.
 

Bocabear

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There was a time when it was fun to be scared... Like Alien Encounter ...or when I was a little kid, Snow White or Haunted Mansion...I was scared but loved those rides.... Nowadays it seems like people who are constantly inundated with uber violent films and television shows ( along with the news itself) get very scared at things we thought were a lot of fun....
 

TheMaxRebo

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Fall 2025???

I’m confused 🤔

I think seasons in Orlando are a little, um, undefined and flexible

Obviously if they go by the calendar then they have only Dec 21st through the 31st to open it it in "technical winter 2025"

So might be more like when they start celebrating winter holidays which is starting in early Nov
 

eddie104

Well-Known Member
I think we have two different phenomenons going on in regards to kids in particular being scared.

With social media they have unfettered access to copious amounts of violence daily so desensitization is very prominent among these younger groups.

Now the complete opposite also exists with “helicopter parenting” causing some kids to be completely unexposed to anything remotely displaying graphic or violent imagery.

This demographic I feel tends to visit the Disney Parks more often than the other.
 

KDM31091

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In fairness, they did warn guests at the beginning of the show it may be too intense for children.

It is truly a shame to see more and more classics go, especially in a park with little to do as it is. They should be adding this in a brand new theater not replacing. The tree trunk makes perfect sense for bugs to be crawling in. I understand the need for change, but you don’t have to have seen A Bugs Life to enjoy the show. Not to mention Zootopia is almost 10 years old, and will have a similar relevancy problem before long. I say this as someone who did enjoy the movie, and am not against an attraction based on it, but I’m tired of the constant unnecessary replacements.

I’m preparing to be underwhelmed. I hope to be proven wrong but the cheesy song in the sneak peek video doesn’t inspire confidence at this time
 

Gusey

Well-Known Member
In fairness, they did warn guests at the beginning of the show it may be too intense for children.

It is truly a shame to see more and more classics go, especially in a park with little to do as it is. They should be adding this in a brand new theater not replacing. The tree trunk makes perfect sense for bugs to be crawling in. I understand the need for change, but you don’t have to have seen A Bugs Life to enjoy the show. Not to mention Zootopia is almost 10 years old, and will have a similar relevancy problem before long. I say this as someone who did enjoy the movie, and am not against an attraction based on it, but I’m tired of the constant unnecessary replacements.

I’m preparing to be underwhelmed. I hope to be proven wrong but the cheesy song in the sneak peek video doesn’t inspire confidence at this time
Zootopia 2 comes out this year -> relevant again
 

Smiley/OCD

Well-Known Member
Will this show turn into AK’s version of Harmonious, lasting a mere 19 months?
I guess time will tell…it wouldn’t be the first time TWDC got it 100% wrong…
 

Professortango1

Well-Known Member
Are we blaming Millennials for killing it's tough to be a bug now? Maybe it was just time after all these years...
I don't blame an age group, I blame a variety of factors. A Bugs Life was never the success of Toy Story and Nemo, even though it slaps. The attraction has scary moments and there are a lot of parents afraid of letting their kids get scared. The show had a touch of edutainment and the desire for learning has fallen away in our country. Kevin Spacey. Enough people said "Zertopia haz animals, they should put the thing I like in Animal Kingdum." Disney loves cheap rethemes (TOT, Frozen, Tiana, Incredicoaster, Gran Fiesta). Everyone is distracted by the fate of Muppet Vision, for reasons I cannot understand.
 

Smiley/OCD

Well-Known Member
It's a single attraction, not the entire nighttime draw for a park and its many dining locations. Even JIYI lasted for two years.
I understand that…I was just making the comparison with something that was so highly touted by the company, just to fail in less than 2 years…also the Galactic Starmess I mean cruiser…
 

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