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It's good to see this updated for consistency's sake, but I was really enjoying the time we had with the old finale. One last little remnant of a better era for this park stomped out. RIP.

I would assume so

In the interest of transparency what I'm told and what I expect are two very different things, I think "by the time the holiday lighting starts" will quickly turn into "before the holiday lighting ends". But that's just my inner cynic, it looks like work is well underway and there's still time...

Truthfully, I have no idea. That sounds like a good guess. Current target is to have them on for when they start doing the holiday stuff on SSE. So I'm assuming when Festival of the Holidays starts? That's a few weeks away.

Reconfirmed that the plan is still to have the ground lights working again by the holidays, FWIW

I had always interpreted this as blue sky art first and foremost, and if not some kind of Polynesian culture commentary with the stingray acting as the story light. There's enough resemblance for the kids to go "Look mommy, Moana!" and no direct enough ties for us to get disgruntled about. As...

I don't think that was ever a real thing, just fan fearmongering over a piece of concept art that they never went into detail about (or publicly released)

For better or for worse, it's the next EPCOT project. I think it's a pretty common sentiment that the current version of SSE is the weakest show its ever been, so I think a sensible refurb only stands to improve.

There really wasn't much of a net loss, the second floor of EU provided significantly less seating than the expansion into the Innoventions show area provided Connections. The loss of the little bubble that expanded into the plaza and the fact that the space has to be shared with Starbucks are...

Ultimately they did do an early cancellation with Glidden, that was a five year contract that they ended in four. The West building I believe they did the same since all the exhibits closed at once, including the relatively new IBM Think which was presented by their longest running sponsor. That...

Disney wanted the space back to use for themselves

Innoventions never had trouble finding sponsors lol, it died a slow death because Disney stopped accepting new ones and ran out the contracts on the old ones

Man we really read way too much into things lol. Two of the attractions are Muppets and HoP, no idea about the third one unless we’re talking about Launch Bay

I think we all need to learn to accept that nothing’s happening at EPCOT for a while aside from that SSE refurb. No, they’re not touching The Land, there’s no interest in doing anything in that park.

I don't think it really needs updated though? It definitely wasn't designed around being updated. Nothing about the presentation necessarily feels dated, and Disney certainly maintains older attractions. Despite all that it has been updated even, the Waldo wall projections are fairly new. That's...

That's great and all but this is a discussion board for theme parks, so that's probably the main thing you'll see discussed here

Not to pick on you specifically but I think the "They should put MuppetVision on Disney+" argument is very dumb. MuppetVision isn't like Captain EO where you're just watching a film that's being presented in a theme park, you're going into an attraction which just so happens to have a film as...

Luminous feels like it’s trying to be Harmonious 2 (which in itself was essentially HEA) while trying to capture some drops of RoE’s essence. It’s better than Harm, but the lot of successors are all a far cry from IllumiNations

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Perhaps an unpopular opinion, but I like that it's mostly art from the 2002 version. We don't have much of that available online, and there's plenty from the original attraction out there.