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    Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

    Why would both of those movies need to operate like Barbie? Early days, but Inside Out 2 is already doing that. If Disney is building its business plan (and if posters here are building their expectations around) every tentpole being a colossal outlying success, that's terribly unrealistic. Even...
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    Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

    The sniping is not new. The full-court amplification and regurgitation of said sniping is. It reached a far wider audience than just the inside baseball types that lurk here. By making it a known, amplified story before the release, you torpedo the opening weekend itself, which not only is a...
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    Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

    So... you didn't read any of that website. Cool, cool, cool. I, too, find a trend toward increasingly toxic public discourse to be hilarious.
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    Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

    Of course no one will say it because there's plenty of room between "huge success" and failure. My assertion (which you didn't even respond to) is that they would've done fine. It would have been a poor year, but not one deemed a colossal failure. A failure so colossal that it looks like one...
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    Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

    Feel free to go to FN's category/travel/general/disney section. Load everything back to the start of 2022 (or before, if you're ambitious) and see how things change in... oh, let's say March of 2022.
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    Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

    You're not going to find anyone willing to say things would have been a "huge success" because that would be a ridiculous statement to make, other than to say that a red-headed Little Mermaid remake of the same quality sadly would have made substantially more. However, it's not ludicrous to...
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    Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

    Was looking for something else in the archive entirely and stumbled upon this reaction to my analysis (similar to Dranth's) showing that IP/sequels = box office success. [You can find it on page 450, if anyone's interested.] Not looking to specifically pick on you, TP, it was just at the top of...
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    Inside Out 2

    Is being off by 50% getting in the ball park, though? TP's 3x analysis led to the statement that the 2023 slate lost $1.284b in total, but Disney's financial statements indicated something more on the order of $700m. Anyway, this is the wrong thread for all of this. I just wanted to comment and...
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    Inside Out 2

    Right, which seems to vary by studio, not just randomly. Most studios appear to be near the bottom of that range. Universal, as an example, appears to be more toward the top end of that range. If profitability is achieved somewhere between 2.2x and 3.0x, then only using 3.0x as your goalpost...
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    Inside Out 2

    Agreed. I think I even said that? Just trying to set the goal for future releases to what seems like a more meaningful/accurate target.
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    Inside Out 2

    Here's my post about that article with a little commentary added. https://forums.wdwmagic.com/threads/disney-and-others-at-the-box-office-current-state-of-affairs.981297/post-10955770
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    Inside Out 2

    I'm aware of where you're thinking is coming from. I found the post I was talking about. Feel free to read and tell me what you think. https://forums.wdwmagic.com/threads/disney-and-others-at-the-box-office-current-state-of-affairs.981297/post-10928788 There was also a recent Variety article I...
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    Inside Out 2

    The budget is $200m, right? I think per recent analysis in the Box Office thread, the break-even would be closer to $500m. See some of BrianLo's posts there (if you can find them) for details. Either way, yeah... it's about to blow right past that. As a sign of the mania, it's actually...
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    Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

    I can't disagree with this, even though I rather enjoyed Strange World. I was strangely very much in the crosshairs for this, though. Fan of pulps? Check. Receptive to a story that is expressly showing other ways of being a man than stereotypical masculinity? Check. Concerned about climate...
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    Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

    Thanks for this analysis. I did something similar hundreds of pages ago now showing that a high percentage of recent hit movies were either already established IP and/or direct sequels. People continue to claim that "good" original movies will break the pattern, but the masses apparently have a...
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    Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

    Additionally, I provided the name of an organization who's raison d'etre is to research and provide policy in the space of this exact phenomenon. Leading horses to water, so to speak.
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    Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

    I wouldn't consider it as an underground network. It's really pretty visible and presented as fairly innocuous, which is how this sort of thing is able to be so effective. Fear of things we don't understand or using a related argument as a shield is a great starting point, followed by...
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    Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

    How dare you, sir? I'll have you know that all of my opinions were strategically developed in a lab run by no one but me. Or... um, yeah.
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    Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

    Light beers make up 40% of the beer market (the largest segment by far) and Bud Light used to be the largest brand in that segment. Regardless of how you personally feel about it, I think it would be a mistake to label that a fringe of anything.
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    Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

    Not sure what this means. The actions of the outrage culture led pretty directly to Bud Light losing 28% of its market share over the last year. If that's not a practical example of this thing that purportedly doesn't exist, I don't know what is.
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