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    Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

    But there are differences between Pfizer and Moderna From stat news: Interesting “coincidence” . Correlation is not necessarily causation. But interesting.
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    Both Pfizer and Moderna analysis is for what they call 6 months, so they group the ones vaccinated the longest in the 4-6 months period. Their confidence index is lower the farther out one looks because the number of subjects that were at 4-6 months post second shot at data cutoff is less than...
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    Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

    Pfizer loses 3% effectiveness per month according to their own 6 month Phase 3 trial analysis ( see preliminary study results I linked about a week ago). Moderna reported yesterday ( See link I had in an earlier message today) in their Q2 presentation that their 6 month analysis of their Phase...
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    Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

    If the results from both Pfizer and Moderna Phase 3 6 month trial review holds true in the larger population and with delta then Pfizer vaccinated population will need a booster three times sooner than Moderna vaccinated population. Anecdotal , but my wife being Phase 3 trial Moderna and...
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    Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

    Moderna’s Q2 presentation Looks like Moderna covid vaccine effectiveness is only dropping 1% per month vs Pfizer 3% per month.( Slide 25 ) from Phase 3 trial 6 month results ( note predelta data) https://investors.modernatx.com/static-files/c43de312-8273-4394-9a58-a7fc7d5ed098 But they do...
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    Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

    I think efficacy is lower if we start adding in the decreased efficacy caused by time since second vaccination ( shown against original wild variant as decreasing by 3% per month ). Not sure 88% is based on people that are recently but fully vaccinated and not those who been vaccinated for many...
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    I think your worries are valid. But my belief is what it is because what you worried about happening to you already happened to me ( Fully vaccinated long ago( Sept.) , yet moderate covid ( Delta) for two weeks in June). So that colors my view. How much one should worry and what are...
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    Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

    Guess I am one of the lucky ones. Both shots and recent moderate covid+[likely delta]. Actually given the situation it is nice to feel extra protected. 😀 Though I would not recommend anyone doing a covid party to get that extra protection ( wait for a booster ). Why gamble on long covid or...
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    Looks like the profile of a wooden roller coaster. 🤡
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    Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

    Might as well since PCR takes a few days to get results.( At least it did in June)
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    Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

    codestim.org is interesting but their data for percent ever infected has mistakes. Simple mistakes such as miami-dade graph using a fraction number between 0-1 for a graph of percent (0-100 ) (100x too small). Additionally if the percent of pop previously infected is true (72% for miami...
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    Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

    Nor do I. I would expect that they are allowed to admit and visit/attend. ( If an unvaccinated family member can visit, that is more risk than a masked unvaccinated doctor visit )
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    Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

    But are they limiting admission privileges of physicians who are not vaccinated? If not are they allowed to be the attending physician?
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    Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

    Not sure if this has been posted here yet: Describes how the FDA is prioritizing getting Pfizer Full Approval. https://www.statnews.com/2021/07/30/fda-under-pressure-plans-sprint-to-accelerate-review-of-pfizers-covid-19-vaccine-for-full-approval/
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    Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

    See below study. Convalescent plasma ( From people who already had it) is 4-6 fold less effective in neutralization against delta ( and beta ), but if they are also vaccinated the numbers, according to the study, are good for neutralization...
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    So it is possible ti extrapolate at 6 months Pfizer VE ( efficacy) may be 78% against original variant for symptomatic. ( Though for a confidence index of 95% the VE at four months had a wide range )
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    Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

    From the study: ( note the 83.7 is for the subjects four months+)
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    Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

    The paper on the Phase 3 Pfizer study shows a 3% efficacy loss per month since full vaccination ( it is analysis of phase 3 data through April or so) . Therefore those who were vaccinated in January 2021 will have about 82% efficacy vs original covid but someone vaccinated in June should have...
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    Lol. Technically they are returning from abroad and entering the country, federal law could apply.🙃
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    Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

    Lol. A dark sense of humor can make things easier to handle. When I was in Iraq 15 years ago ( Civilian) in North Liberty/ Camp Victory I was working away and got very tired. I thought of my oldest niece who told me that If I was ever tired Red Bull works great. I said to myself,”Wish I had a...
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