Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[JoeCamel]

I got color coded carabiners all ready!

These are nice!

 

[JoeCamel]

Making it official moving FL into phase 3 -

"There are four major provisions of the order:

-It removes all remaining state-level restrictions on businesses, including on bars and restaurants, which were capped at 75% capacity in Phase 3 of DeSantis' original reopening plan.

-It provides a general right to work and to operate a business. Local governments can limit and regulate businesses, but won’t be able to close businesses because of coronavirus concerns.

-Local governments won’t be able to prevent restaurants from operating at below 50% capacity. Under previous orders, local governments could go further than state-level restrictions, and counties in South Florida kept restaurants and bars closed after the state allowed them to reopen. Also, cities and counties won’t be able to impose any restrictions without an economic and health justification.

-Cities and counties can’t collect on any outstanding fines they issued as part of their pandemic response. The order, though, doesn’t compel local governments to refund anyone who has already paid a fine."

Florida reopens: DeSantis lifts state’s coronavirus restrictions

TALLAHASSEE — Florida will no longer require bars and restaurants to operate at less than full capacity, as Gov. Ron DeSantis issued an executive order Friday removing all remaining restricti…

www.orlandosentinel.com

But does it remove the ability of local jurisdictions to require masks?

 

[JoeCamel]

Finally the point has been reached where, now that guidance has been provided at nauseum, the public as in "We The People" can show responsibility, good sense and care going about living while dealing with this illness.

I haven't seen much wee the people out there lately. More like I the people

 

[GoofGoof]

Making it official moving FL into phase 3 -

"There are four major provisions of the order:

-It removes all remaining state-level restrictions on businesses, including on bars and restaurants, which were capped at 75% capacity in Phase 3 of DeSantis' original reopening plan.

-It provides a general right to work and to operate a business. Local governments can limit and regulate businesses, but won’t be able to close businesses because of coronavirus concerns.

-Local governments won’t be able to prevent restaurants from operating at below 50% capacity. Under previous orders, local governments could go further than state-level restrictions, and counties in South Florida kept restaurants and bars closed after the state allowed them to reopen. Also, cities and counties won’t be able to impose any restrictions without an economic and health justification.

-Cities and counties can’t collect on any outstanding fines they issued as part of their pandemic response. The order, though, doesn’t compel local governments to refund anyone who has already paid a fine."

Florida reopens: DeSantis lifts state’s coronavirus restrictions

TALLAHASSEE — Florida will no longer require bars and restaurants to operate at less than full capacity, as Gov. Ron DeSantis issued an executive order Friday removing all remaining restricti…

www.orlandosentinel.com

There you have it. It’s official now. No state level restrictions on restaurants or bars. It looks like they softened on prohibiting localities from having any local restrictions and instead set a cap at 50% occupancy. There’s no details on whether localities can also require distancing and/or masks just that they can’t cap capacity below 50%.

 

[oceanbreeze77]

Goodluck Florida.

 

[GoofGoof]

But does it remove the ability of local jurisdictions to require masks?

It does say local governments can limit and regulate businesses but they just cannot cap capacity below 50%. Although it also says that the localities cannot collect on fines issued so you can set a requirement but you can’t find anyone for violating it. Maybe a backdoor to neutralize any local restrictions.

 

[Jwink]

Making it official moving FL into phase 3 -

"There are four major provisions of the order:

-It removes all remaining state-level restrictions on businesses, including on bars and restaurants, which were capped at 75% capacity in Phase 3 of DeSantis' original reopening plan.

-It provides a general right to work and to operate a business. Local governments can limit and regulate businesses, but won’t be able to close businesses because of coronavirus concerns.

-Local governments won’t be able to prevent restaurants from operating at below 50% capacity. Under previous orders, local governments could go further than state-level restrictions, and counties in South Florida kept restaurants and bars closed after the state allowed them to reopen. Also, cities and counties won’t be able to impose any restrictions without an economic and health justification.

-Cities and counties can’t collect on any outstanding fines they issued as part of their pandemic response. The order, though, doesn’t compel local governments to refund anyone who has already paid a fine."

Florida reopens: DeSantis lifts state’s coronavirus restrictions

TALLAHASSEE — Florida will no longer require bars and restaurants to operate at less than full capacity, as Gov. Ron DeSantis issued an executive order Friday removing all remaining restricti…

www.orlandosentinel.com

I’m terrified about this. As you all know my husband works at Disney... and as you all know protection from the virus takes 2 masked people ... so what happens when Disney opens up to full capacity (phase 3 allows this) and masks are no longer required?!?! My husband has a heart condition- we’ve got 2 young kids.

 

[JoeCamel]

It does say local governments can limit and regulate businesses but they just cannot cap capacity below 50%. Although it also says that the localities cannot collect on fines issued so you can set a requirement but you can’t find anyone for violating it. Maybe a backdoor to neutralize any local restrictions.

Thanks - paywall

 

[GoofGoof]

I’m terrified about this. As you all know my husband works at Disney... and as you all know protection from the virus takes 2 masked people ... so what happens when Disney opens up to full capacity (phase 3 allows this) and masks are no longer required?!?! My husband has a heart condition- we’ve got 2 young kids.

Disney is free to set their own requirements. The governor cannot force them to expand capacity or cancel their mask policy. It’s a private business. I’m confident Disney will maintain their progress and if anything if the full opening of bars causes a spike in FL it may actually slow their relaxing of restrictions.

 

[IanDLBZF]

Disney is free to set their own requirements. The governor cannot force them to expand capacity or cancel their mask policy. It’s a private business. I’m confident Disney will maintain their progress and if anything if the full opening of bars causes a spike in FL it may actually slow their relaxing of restrictions.

Other private businesses can set requirements as well.

 

[GoofGoof]

Thanks - paywall

Same story without the paywall

Florida reopens: DeSantis lifts remaining coronavirus restrictions

TALLAHASSEE – Bars and restaurants are no longer required to operate at less than full capacity, as Gov. Ron DeSantis issued an executive order Friday removing all remaining restrictions on businesses because of the coronavirus pandemic. But the executive order, which takes effect immediately...

news.yahoo.com

 

[oceanbreeze77]

I’m terrified about this. As you all know my husband works at Disney... and as you all know protection from the virus takes 2 masked people ... so what happens when Disney opens up to full capacity (phase 3 allows this) and masks are no longer required?!?! My husband has a heart condition- we’ve got 2 young kids.

Disney is free to set their own requirements. The governor cannot force them to expand capacity or cancel their mask policy. It’s a private business. I’m confident Disney will maintain their progress and if anything if the full opening of bars causes a spike in FL it may actually slow their relaxing of restrictions.

I would be more afraid of more non compliance and bad behavior towards CMs.

"Well the state says blahblahblah.." "everywhere else blahblahblha..."

 

[GoofGoof]

Other private businesses can set requirements as well.

Yes, any private business.

 

[oceanbreeze77]

Also I think disney wouldn't get as much business if they opened to full capacity. Think more people feel comfortable going knowing there is a limit, than they would if it was a free for all.

 

[Jwink]

If you are disagree with the stated safety protocols of your employer, seek alternative employment.

Now that you have been given warning of what is coming, take action to resolve the situation if it is that perilous.

Yeah yeah same old suggestion. Who cares that someone has built a career there for 15 years Find another job. All I hear is the peanuts teacher.

 

[Mark52479]

It does say local governments can limit and regulate businesses but they just cannot cap capacity below 50%. Although it also says that the localities cannot collect on fines issued so you can set a requirement but you can’t find anyone for violating it. Maybe a backdoor to neutralize any local restrictions.

That is exactly what it is. A backdoor.

Local communities can say you MUST still wear a mask but the State Executive Order says no fines can be given.

I truly believe this wont have much effect on Disney as they will continue to have strict guidelines.

 

[JohnD]

Making it official moving FL into phase 3 -

"There are four major provisions of the order:

-It removes all remaining state-level restrictions on businesses, including on bars and restaurants, which were capped at 75% capacity in Phase 3 of DeSantis' original reopening plan.

-It provides a general right to work and to operate a business. Local governments can limit and regulate businesses, but won’t be able to close businesses because of coronavirus concerns.

-Local governments won’t be able to prevent restaurants from operating at below 50% capacity. Under previous orders, local governments could go further than state-level restrictions, and counties in South Florida kept restaurants and bars closed after the state allowed them to reopen. Also, cities and counties won’t be able to impose any restrictions without an economic and health justification.

-Cities and counties can’t collect on any outstanding fines they issued as part of their pandemic response. The order, though, doesn’t compel local governments to refund anyone who has already paid a fine."

Florida reopens: DeSantis lifts state’s coronavirus restrictions

TALLAHASSEE — Florida will no longer require bars and restaurants to operate at less than full capacity, as Gov. Ron DeSantis issued an executive order Friday removing all remaining restricti…

www.orlandosentinel.com

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I wonder what this means for my trip in October.

“The Phase 3 order will allow theme parks to operate at full capacity and lift any restrictions on gatherings, although the state still is recommending people avoid crowded spaces.”

Granted Disney doesn’t have to lift capacity restrictions but they could.

Check out this article from Tallahassee Democrat:

DeSantis OKs state moving into Phase 3 of reopening, lifting most limits

DeSantis OKs state moving into Phase 3 of reopening, lifting most limits

Gov. Ron DeSantis lifts the last restrictions on restaurants and social gatherings.

www.heraldtribune.com

 

[DisneyDebRob]

Finally the point has been reached where, now that guidance has been provided at nauseum, the public as in "We The People" can show responsibility, good sense and care going about living while dealing with this illness.

Because that has proven to work so well in the past.

 

[sullyinMT]

I’m terrified about this. As you all know my husband works at Disney... and as you all know protection from the virus takes 2 masked people ... so what happens when Disney opens up to full capacity (phase 3 allows this) and masks are no longer required?!?! My husband has a heart condition- we’ve got 2 young kids.

I wouldn’t worry about Disney relaxing their restrictions and capacities at the short term. I would, be terrified of other businesses in the area. I can picture in my head a crowded castle in medieval times, for example. Or, local grocery stores and Waffle Houses. I think even Publix and the other big players will keep restrictions on for a while.
While Uni has clearly allowed more people in as of late, I think even they have the sense to continue mandating masks (at least I hope so)

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Finally the point has been reached where, now that guidance has been provided at nauseum, the public as in "We The People" can show responsibility, good sense and care going about living while dealing with this illness.

Think they’ll do well? Taking bets...

There you have it. It’s official now. No state level restrictions on restaurants or bars. It looks like they softened on prohibiting localities from having any local restrictions and instead set a cap at 50% occupancy. There’s no details on whether localities can also require distancing and/or masks just that they can’t cap capacity below 50%.

So much to say...and yet nothing to say.

Goodluck Florida.

You nailed that one.

I’m terrified about this. As you all know my husband works at Disney... and as you all know protection from the virus takes 2 masked people ... so what happens when Disney opens up to full capacity (phase 3 allows this) and masks are no longer required?!?! My husband has a heart condition- we’ve got 2 young kids.

Well...Florida doesn’t care what you think. But neither does anyone outside of Florida care what it thinks either.

The problems was never Florida keeping people out...it’s their that dingbat killed most of the desire from outside to go in.

This changes nothing for Disney...probably hurts them - actually.