Come on Steve. That was entirely political. A direct shot at a state governor and saying if your sensible, we should agree?And you want us to follow the rules? Am I allowedNo politics from me, as I have no US vote. Just a general comment that any sensible person would make looking at the situation in Florida.
You mean this gem?Another poor decision from a very inept governor.
...game, set AND matchNo politics from me, as I have no US vote. Just a general comment that any sensible person would make looking at the situation in Florida.
Well after being here for 25 years and making the rules and wading through thousands of posts a day moderating I think occasionally I am allowed to say something. Anyway, this isn't about me. Back to the subject at hand.Come on Steve. That was entirely political. A direct shot at a state governor and saying if your sensible, we should agree?And you want us to follow the rules? Am I allowed
to now call out the New York governor and NYC mayor for their ineptness that led to the death of many of their own citizens?
...as has been months of celebrating wanton failure through lack of appropriate action with strawmen, red herring and outright lies.Come on Steve. That was entirely political. A direct shot at a state governor and saying if your sensible, we should agree?And you want us to follow the rules? Am I allowed
to now call out the New York governor and NYC mayor for their ineptness that led to the death of many of their own citizens?
Your house your rules. If you want to vent in your own house go aheadWell after being here for 25 years and making the rules and wading through thousands of posts a day moderating I think occasionally I am allowed to say something. Anyway, this isn't about me. Back to the subject at hand.
Yes its actually fascinating, but sad to see. Thankfully in the UK, politics is not part of dealing with COVID, and no matter which side you are on, it is all about getting the country through it. In the U.S.A., for many in power, it all seems political and making statements by action, or inaction. It is a sad sight to see the world's super power not being able to work together with its own people and make a difference for the better.It’s shocking to me still that we (the US) can’t look at anything objectively and come to a common sense assessment...
What data? What has changed today that was different yesterday or a week ago or 2 weeks? We see the daily updates on cases and I don’t see a major positive change. If anything there was a plateau and slight uptick now. It’s fine for the governor to decide to do this, it’s his prerogative, but it’s disingenuous to say it was done based on any data or metrics. In his press conference he basically said that he was using the anecdotal evidence that Miami restricted restaurants and still had Covid cases anyway so restricting restaurants doesn’t work.So are we supposed to stay in Phase 1 or 2 forever? If there is data on the phases, and the data has met the metrics for Phase 3, is he supposed to ignore it? Are we supposed to stay in fear forever? I mean a poster is “terrified”. Has it really come to this?
Give me a break buddy. For the last 6 months you have made it your mission to bash Americans at every opportunity. We get it. You hate us. You look down your nose at the rest of us. Call everyone selfish and arrogant. Continuous backhand political comments because you have no self control. And before the virus, your mission was to bash everyone who said anything positive about Disney. Same thing. Different topic. It is who you have been since you joined. God help you if you actually act this way outside of this environment....as has been months of celebrating wanton failure through lack of appropriate action with strawmen, red herring and outright lies.
...I mean here - not the politicians. Still waiting for Cane to write his book on how Florida outsmarted this and for X to liberate his golf course
Not gonna win here...as has been the case since March.
It’s people with the attitude of Sirrunshismouth that causes us the most issues in the US. And it’s sad that you and many others cannot see it. Have a good one.Yes its actually fascinating, but sad to see. Thankfully in the UK, politics is not part of dealing with COVID, and no matter which side you are on, it is all about getting the country through it. In the U.S.A., for many in power, it all seems political and making statements by action, or inaction. It is a sad sight to see the world's super power not being able to work together with its own people and make a difference for the better.
Okay. See my last post. Metrics were established for Phase 3. The state met them. Just when is it acceptable then? He could reopen a year from now and it still wouldn’t be acceptable for some.
why would you think logically? Rude.How will tourism return if Florida remains as a restricted destination?
Be careful, @Sirwalterraleigh grows on you after a whileIt’s people with the attitude of Sirrunshismouth that causes us the most issues in the US. And it’s sad that you and many others cannot see it. Have a good one.
If Disney opens a park in NYC and Cuomo does something that negatively impacts it I’d say it’s fair game. I’m critical of the CA governor now for not allowing DLR to re-open. It’s not because of my politics it’s because I disagree with his policy. For me it’s not about political back and forth as I had no vote in either FL or CA so I have no horse in either race.Come on Steve. That was entirely political. A direct shot at a state governor and saying if your sensible, we should agree?And you want us to follow the rules? Am I allowed
to now call out the New York governor and NYC mayor for their ineptness that led to the death of many of their own citizens?
Wrong since Day 1...It’s people with the attitude of Sirrunshismouth that causes us the most issues in the US. And it’s sad that you and many others cannot see it. Have a good one.
Perhaps there would have been more cooperation if the US jailed people who didn’t comply with government decree.Yes its actually fascinating, but sad to see. Thankfully in the UK, politics is not part of dealing with COVID, and no matter which side you are on, it is all about getting the country through it. In the U.S.A., for many in power, it all seems political and making statements by action, or inaction. It is a sad sight to see the world's super power not being able to work together with its own people and make a difference for the better.
I’m pretty sure he just moved the goal posts. I haven’t seen anywhere that the governor actually said they met some specific metric to move to phase 3. His focus was solely on businesses having the right to be open and workers having the right to work. He also said he felt the restrictions implemented so far were ineffective so he was lifting them.These are the ‘metrics’ provided for phase 3 by the state:
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I’m honestly at a loss as to how ‘downward trajectory’ is interpreted from the current state reported numbers. The Governor clearly has a different definition of ‘downward’ then I do, or is cherry picking the dates to consider that basis (obviously, the trend is downward relative to April!) The goalposts continue to move.
A lot of people just want the state to follow what seems to be reasonably established CDC guidelines. A lot more people just want the state to follow their own guidelines. If they did that, I would be in the ‘acceptable’ camp. This is not that.
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