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1. Orlando
2. Anaheim
3. Paris
4. Tokyo
and my girlfriend and I have already agreed when we get married our honeymoon will include Shanghai and Hong Kong
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Do you think Shanghai will go for another expansion next or go for a second gate?
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1. Orlando
2. Anaheim
3. Paris
4. Tokyo
and my girlfriend and I have already agreed when we get married our honeymoon will include Shanghai and Hong Kong
BrianLo
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Reviewing the artwork it still strikes me as placeholder-y to talk about. I have no idea one way or another, but I’d be extremely surprised if they had a geodesic sphere as the icon.
Obviously they are not making spaceship earth. A coaster seems way too on the nose with the former Mir.
Seems to be about vibes. There is also a monorail running along the guest spine between the two parks. I do ultimately think there will be some sort of transit, it’s quite a long walk otherwise.
Knowing what we know:
1) Pandora
2) Mexico (Coco)
3) “China pavilion” as the main backstop
4) ?Maybe Norway
Then I have no idea. Nothing otherwise has ever broken through that they haven’t used already.
Obviously they are not making spaceship earth. A coaster seems way too on the nose with the former Mir.
Seems to be about vibes. There is also a monorail running along the guest spine between the two parks. I do ultimately think there will be some sort of transit, it’s quite a long walk otherwise.
Knowing what we know:
1) Pandora
2) Mexico (Coco)
3) “China pavilion” as the main backstop
4) ?Maybe Norway
Then I have no idea. Nothing otherwise has ever broken through that they haven’t used already.
britain
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IPCOT could easily do clones of nearly every other recent attraction or in development attraction: Encanto, Indy, Lion King flume, Remy, Tokyo’s Beauty and the Beast, the cancelled DAK Moana attractions - heck, they could even have a Frontierland with Big Thunder. Or anything from Tokyo DisneySea if they wanted. The only limit is what might be a better and likely addition to Shanghai Disneyland itself.
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Me too. Very very surprised.
denyuntilcaught
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We're on the same page, if only slight out of order: Anaheim, Orlando, Tokyo, Paris, Hong Kong.
How much is the Shendi Group like the OLC regarding penchant for unique attractions? Like, how much of SDLs unique attraction mix as a result of Shendi pushing for it, versus any other factor such as cultural regard, etc.?
I ask because that may also shed insight on the attraction mix for the second park. Sure, it could be a dumping ground of all the new and novel from the other resorts, but not if Shendi requests at least a portion of the park to be innovative.
trainplane3
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Just passing through after seeing an article pop up. Yep, that's Project Atlas.
From what I hear, the first of a few major things Josh wants to tie his legacy to.
parksandtravel
Active Member
Possible Avengers Tower.
Nah. Don’t read too much into it.
What else you hearing he wants to tie his legacy too
BrianLo
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Sorry to have partially contributed to the derail, but at least it’s about SDL.
From positing the company has been “used” here, which would require us to determine the company has gotten very little out of this.
However - the resort is fiscally successful. Much, Much more so than the other two resorts with their partial or full ownership. It’s one of the reasons we are even having this conversation about other gates when the company is quite shy on that type of lumpy capital.
The other purpose was to build nostalgia and affinity for a very large market that had none. There is no four generation family with great grandparents raised with World of Disney. It has been a tough market for Hollywood to crack, because they are not Japan and are not desperate for an Americana wave.
On this too Disney has just had the most successful Hollywood movie ever in the market. The release co-timed with parks opening, the land has been a massive success and the 9 year later sequel has paid massive dividends. They’ve also built a massive internal drive for Duffy merch, which is exclusively park driven. We can argue if Zootopia needed a park to break through, but Duffy definitely did. All by an extremely healthy cohort of 20 something’s that will become tomorrow’s Boomer-Millennial parents and grandparents.
These are their markers of success. They were not used. They were so unused that the last park they built a gate is nearly the first market they are returning to. Anyone who has been here recently more or less agrees the parks are demographically acting a lot more like Tokyo than we ever expected.
From positing the company has been “used” here, which would require us to determine the company has gotten very little out of this.
However - the resort is fiscally successful. Much, Much more so than the other two resorts with their partial or full ownership. It’s one of the reasons we are even having this conversation about other gates when the company is quite shy on that type of lumpy capital.
The other purpose was to build nostalgia and affinity for a very large market that had none. There is no four generation family with great grandparents raised with World of Disney. It has been a tough market for Hollywood to crack, because they are not Japan and are not desperate for an Americana wave.
On this too Disney has just had the most successful Hollywood movie ever in the market. The release co-timed with parks opening, the land has been a massive success and the 9 year later sequel has paid massive dividends. They’ve also built a massive internal drive for Duffy merch, which is exclusively park driven. We can argue if Zootopia needed a park to break through, but Duffy definitely did. All by an extremely healthy cohort of 20 something’s that will become tomorrow’s Boomer-Millennial parents and grandparents.
These are their markers of success. They were not used. They were so unused that the last park they built a gate is nearly the first market they are returning to. Anyone who has been here recently more or less agrees the parks are demographically acting a lot more like Tokyo than we ever expected.
Biggest queue we’ve ever seen in a park for ourselves anywhere.
The park had been open 90 minutes.
The Empress Lilly
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Disney also has to hurry up to capture the Shanghai / Chinese market. Open door, but China builds some astonishing stuff, at astonishing speeds. The competition is relentless.
The Empress Lilly
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Wow, that's the biggest one I've ever seen. (I have so many lame jokes fighting my fingers to be typed, but looks like The Mom discovered this thread)
The longest I've ever waited was also in Shanghai, for Soarin'. 210 minutes, for a ride I had done dozens of times elsewhere. Still don't know what possessed me to even try.
Disregarding the wait, great experience. Shanghai Soarin' once more shows that presentation is everything in entertainment.
BrianLo
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Chimelong is just a drop in the bucket compared to the frantic pace Fantawild holdings is building. They even have legitimate purported world class dark rides. I think there have been 30 parks in the last decade.
BrianLo
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It was practically a walk on the day I was there!
Ps: I love that we had the same reaction. To say omg and screen grab in the morning.
BasiltheBatLord
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It was 420 minutes when I was there in 2024. I have screenshot proof.
The Empress Lilly
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300 minutes as we speak. Five hours...
Surely a worldwide longest average wait time?
East Asian young women obsession with Duffy & Co, and their need to show that on their social media? Wouldn't be my choice to spend my day, but to each their own. Aspects of my Disney obsession could be deemed excessive, so who am I to judge.
Surely a worldwide longest average wait time?
East Asian young women obsession with Duffy & Co, and their need to show that on their social media? Wouldn't be my choice to spend my day, but to each their own. Aspects of my Disney obsession could be deemed excessive, so who am I to judge.