Transformative Multi-Year Expansion Announced for WDS Paris

[marni1971]

and more like a marketing ploy

Nothing to do with marketing. So far as I know it’s not been marketed as an E. Or D.

 

[The Empress Lilly]

Looks a lot better than the views of Tron from Storybook Circus. At least there is light theming there.

It's probably more dignified to be a cheap park and lift yourself up then to be a sublime park and drag yourself into the gutter.

One park spends a billion to add a large body of water so it no longer will be the sterile, sole Disney / Universal park without a large body of water, the other park removes it so it now will be.

 

[eddie104]

Looks a lot better than the views of Tron from Storybook Circus. At least there is light theming there.

Yeah I don’t think that’s the comparison…never mind.

Take your shot I guess.

 

[Movielover]

ToT from behind looks like some depressing HLM in Bobigny...
The cheapness of 1.0 of this park will haunt it for decades.

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Which is the theme park hotel?


Hong Kong is trilingual even. Cantonese, English, Mandarin. Very noticeable at their Jungle Cruise, which has three lines, one for a cruise in each language.

Tower wasn't even 1.0, the park existed for a full 5 years before it opened. For the first 3 or so years that spot was just a big empty yard right in the middle of the park.

I've always preferred the shape of Orlando's tower over DCA's/WDS's (its a better ride all together). Having the ascent elevators and show scenes at the rear of the tower in Orlando really helps with the silhouette of the building. They should have stuck a few fake towers on the back of WDS's to help with its shape.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

Yeah I don’t think that’s the comparison…never mind.

Take your shot I guess.

Explain why you think it’s a “shot” - don’t just say it’s not a good comparison without explaining.

 

[eddie104]

Explain why you think it’s a “shot” - don’t just say it’s not a good comparison without explaining.

I don’t understand your original post either.

What are you trying to say?

One of view of some of a show building is the equivalent of WDSP being a trash second gate?

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

I don’t understand your original post either.

What are you trying to say?

I’m saying the back of the Tower in Paris is themed. The completely unthemed tron box is visible from inside the MK park.

 

[eddie104]

I’m saying the back of the Tower in Paris is themed. The completely unthemed tron box is visible from inside the MK park.

Barely.

Unless you’re actively looking for it. Plus that’s not gonna ruin the entirety of MK for the majority of guests.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

Plus that’s not gonna ruin the entirety of MK for the majority of guests.

i never said it did?

Does the backside of the tower in Paris ruin a day for guests?

 

[nickys]

i never said it did?

Does the backside of the tower in Paris ruin a day for guests?

Well it’s going to be visible to anyone visiting the new extension of the park. Anyone taking a photo from Arendelle across the lake will probably have it in shot.
It’ll also be the backdrop for around half the audience of the new show.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

Well it’s going to be visible to anyone visiting the new extension of the park.

It was already visible to guests from inside the park. It still looks like an old abandoned hotel.

 

[nickys]

It was already visible to guests from inside the park. It still looks like an old abandoned hotel.

It was, but it’s now the backdrop to half the park, the part that has the water and themed lands that everyone knows is desperately needed.

 

[Aramar]

The Tower of Terror doesn't look so bad from behind, and it actually works as a point of reference for most guests telling them where the exit of the park is. It is not as if we were seeing backstage offices or fake supports. it's just the backside of a big building. They could add some more details to make it look nicer? Sure, but it's not a big problem. For me, RC racer is more annoying.

 

[Gusey]

They did plant the big tree in the Gazebo Garden in an attempt to block the view of it from the garden area. Haven't seen any photos yet on how well that's helped to blend in the building so it's not just a large slab hovering over the garden

 

[eddie104]

Well it’s going to be visible to anyone visiting the new extension of the park. Anyone taking a photo from Arendelle across the lake will probably have it in shot.
It’ll also be the backdrop for around half the audience of the new show.

I was about to say it looks kinda ugly despite being “lightly themed”.

Definitely more visible than random showbuilding at the back of the MK.

 

[WaltWiz1901]

Nothing to do with marketing. So far as I know it’s not been marketed as an E. Or D.

They rarely if ever use the ticket designations for marketing purposes upfront, with few exceptions (Mermaid being one of them from recollection).

Assuming this is about design and scope, TDS's Rapunzel is comparable to FEA in both regards, and it's internally considered a D.

So what is it then?

 

[britain]

I think there's a nuanced difference in how WDI uses the ticket designations vs. fans:

Fans compare the ticket designations (which don't really officially exist anymore) across the globe. WDI thinks a little bit more in terms of "amount of draw within a land." When describing FEA in the WDS Reinvention Project, this attraction is "the E ticket" insofar as it is the "big attraction that will be the featured focus of the project."

They aren't saying, "Hmm... how does this compare to Tokyo's Tower of Terror? It's not that good. Hmm... what about France's Tower of Terror? Well it's better (arguably) than that... hmm... Is it better than Incredicoaster, yes, but not as good as Shanghai Pirates..."

By virtue of the role it plays in the whole expansion, Frozen Ever After is "The E ticket" - it will now be the number 1 (or maybe 2 or 3) reason for guests to visit that park. It will certainly be marketed that way. The Epcot version is inferior but it is basically the same ride. However the role it plays in the whole Epcot concept (both experience and marketing) is more like a C or D ticket.

 

[marni1971]

They rarely if ever use the ticket designations for marketing purposes upfront, with few exceptions (Mermaid being one of them from recollection).

Exactly.

 

[lazyboy97o]

I was about to say it looks kinda ugly despite being “lightly themed”.

Definitely more visible than random showbuilding at the back of the MK.

Random show building that is right there, visible from multiple angles and is what you see walking into the attraction.

 

[lazyboy97o]

I think there's a nuanced difference in how WDI uses the ticket designations vs. fans:

Fans compare the ticket designations (which don't really officially exist anymore) across the globe. WDI thinks a little bit more in terms of "amount of draw within a land." When describing FEA in the WDS Reinvention Project, this attraction is "the E ticket" insofar as it is the "big attraction that will be the featured focus of the project."

They aren't saying, "Hmm... how does this compare to Tokyo's Tower of Terror? It's not that good. Hmm... what about France's Tower of Terror? Well it's better (arguably) than that... hmm... Is it better than Incredicoaster, yes, but not as good as Shanghai Pirates..."

By virtue of the role it plays in the whole expansion, Frozen Ever After is "The E ticket" - it will now be the number 1 (or maybe 2 or 3) reason for guests to visit that park. It will certainly be marketed that way. The Epcot version is inferior but it is basically the same ride. However the role it plays in the whole Epcot concept (both experience and marketing) is more like a C or D ticket.

The ticket designations are not thought about purely in isolation. The reason they continue to be used both inside Disney and elsewhere is to convey a sense of scope and scale.