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Transformative Multi-Year Expansion Announced for WDS Paris

Animaniac93-98

Well-Known Member
Sounds like Moana at DAW might be like the discarded plans for AK

And then they might move the Magic Carpet spinner to the new land

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mrflo

Well-Known Member
Recall that Disney really tend to announce projects shortly after approval, very reliably. So if this doesn’t feature at D23, I will cast aspersions on it actually being a greenlit project.

Not to say I don’t believe it, but if it’s green lit as implied I doubt it’s kept a secret for 18+ months.
Remember how long we have been talking about LK. Here is a video by AlexTopia already mentioning the rumour four years ago - two years before the official announcement. So the mentioned timeline for an announcement in 2027 or 2028 and opening in 2032 seems pretty feasible.

I had my doubts as early as those LK rumours appeared - or actually just hoped that those were not true or get changed again and we would get SW:GE or at least Pandora after all. So I am deciding to not go down that path again and accept my frustration early on.
 

BrianLo

Well-Known Member
Remember how long we have been talking about LK. Here is a video by AlexTopia already mentioning the rumour four years ago - two years before the official announcement. So the mentioned timeline for an announcement in 2027 or 2028 and opening in 2032 seems pretty feasible.

I had my doubts as early as those LK rumours appeared - or actually just hoped that those were not true or get changed again and we would get SW:GE or at least Pandora after all. So I am deciding to not go down that path again and accept my frustration early on.

No doubt they are working on it! No doubt they are working towards a third land. But that person has implied the project and IP is approved. That’s just the distinction I’m making.
 

mrflo

Well-Known Member
Also I wonder how much the box office of The Mandalorian and Grogu will impact a possibly Disoveryland Star Wars sub-land? There was so much talk about this a while back but... more recent silence?

I am a bit puzzled about this and state of all the other rumours as well. Based on everything we’ve heard over the past few years, the DLP masterplan for new rides and mini-lands must be extensive. Some projects - particularly rollercoaster refurbishments - aren’t optional but necessary, as several tracks are nearing the end of their lifespan. Add to that the sheer amount of available expansion land and the fact that DLP still lacks several top-tier attractions found elsewhere, and the long-term potential is enormous.

When the turbocharged $30 billion global park expansion investment was announced, insiders suggested this would finally be DLP’s moment to catch up in a meaningful way. To be clear, the current expansion work at DLP is significant. But according to those same insiders, figures in the $10 billion range were being rumoured for DLP alone. The gap between those expectations and what we’re actually seeing is striking. It’s frustrating - though unfortunately not that surprising.

At that rumoured investment level, there shouldn’t have been many trade-offs. Moana could have been added to Adventureland. Pandora could have gone into DAW. Star Wars - in my opinion ideally in DAW as well - could have been developed properly. And beyond that, other new attractions or updates for Disneyland Park should have been a easy given - all within the 7–10 year turbocharged timeframe until 2033.

Instead, it feels like DLP's constrained funding is driving compromises: projects swapped between parks, scaled-down concepts with one-ride-only-lands, and well stretched timelines. On top of that, there’s the constant gamble over which IP will generate the biggest draw. That risk pushes decisions toward marketing logic rather than thematic coherence.

Yes, Avatar’s box office success would support bringing Pandora to DAW. But what truly matters is the quality of execution. The reason Pandora at AK works so well isn’t just the IP - it’s the immersive world-building, quality and real storytelling. That’s what makes an attraction timeless. In my opinion IP popularity is secondary at best.

RotR is a perfect example: it’s extraordinary because of its ambition and execution. It would remain impressive even if interest in Kylo Ren faded. A rumoured Star Wars speeder-bike attraction could be fantastic - but only if it stands on its own merits. It can’t rely solely on the popularity of characters like Grogu - that can fade quickly these days.

In the end, world-class design outlasts box office trends. That’s the standard DLP should be aiming for - again.
 

Animaniac93-98

Well-Known Member
As much as Disney likes to market them as E-tickets, Ratatouille, Frozen Ever After and Flight Force are not at that level

Right now the only real E-ticket in the park is ToT...and it's generally considered worse than the original

DAW is missing the kind of next generation E-tickets that we've seen added to the other parks recently

RotR would have been that

Maybe Lion King will be, but the park is lacking both smaller rides that are not flats AND real headliners.
 

Animaniac93-98

Well-Known Member

The blank backside of ToT looming over everything is kind of funny and sad given the effort to dress up the park.

Now's the time to speed up construction on the Up ride, because having this plot of construction in the middle of everything doesn't look so great. At least Lion King is off to one side
 

aleh021

Member
The blank backside of ToT looming over everything is kind of funny and sad given the effort to dress up the park.

Now's the time to speed up construction on the Up ride, because having this plot of construction in the middle of everything doesn't look so great. At least Lion King is off to one side
It’s a shame that the Up attraction isn’t opening with this. I wonder how late in the project it was added. Hopefully they’re kinda speeding up progress on it.

I think once it opens it will add to the overall vibe.
 

ToTBellHop

Well-Known Member
The blank backside of ToT looming over everything is kind of funny and sad given the effort to dress up the park.

Now's the time to speed up construction on the Up ride, because having this plot of construction in the middle of everything doesn't look so great. At least Lion King is off to one side
Yeah, swing rides are so simple that this really should open by summer. It won’t, but it should.
 

marni1971

Park History nut
Premium Member
The blank backside of ToT looming over everything is kind of funny and sad given the effort to dress up the park.

Now's the time to speed up construction on the Up ride, because having this plot of construction in the middle of everything doesn't look so great. At least Lion King is off to one side
I wouldn’t call it blank. Just lightly themed. At least if you look close enough you can still see the wire mesh holding it together!

Lion King construction is poor for a new area. The spinner construction is a joke. After 8 years the brand new and much hyped new area welcomes you with a series of construction walls. Yes it’s good they’re still investing but timing and appearance didn’t come into it.
 

Absimilliard

Well-Known Member
Info/rumours about SM4 have been shared by insider disneylandmagic on the French fan forum:


Seems like he also just shared some new Info/rumours about the third DAW expansion land according to a post on the French fan forum:

**A new world is coming to Disney Adventure World!**

While Disneyland Paris will soon open Frozen World to the public, and The Lion King is preparing to go vertical in just a few short weeks, the next chapter is already being written.

WDI is actively working to continue developing this park, which will allow guests to immerse themselves in the favorite worlds of European visitors. A world where magic, immersion, and adventure come to life around this lake, the heart of Disney Adventure World.

The choice of the next world has been under consideration for some time. First, Pandora, imagined for quite some time, generated a lot of buzz. Fans were quickly convinced: Pandora would arrive next in this park. "Navi" was a hidden clue, as we recall.

While all of this seemed quite coherent, the Kingdom can tell you that Pandora is not the chosen one. The decision was made fairly recently. Instead, you will have to set sail, go where the horizon and the sea touch the sky and will call to you.

**Yes, the Kingdom can tell you exclusively: The next World will be entirely dedicated to the world of Moana!**
🌊


This "World" should be located between Cars Road Trip and Frozen and will feature a new "mountain," more of a volcano. Maybe even Te Fiti, who knows? The main attraction should be an immersive, family-friendly water coaster with a large dark ride section. These are the current plans, but the theme is finalized.

This "World" is planned for 2032, to coincide with the 40th anniversary. An announcement is possible in 2027 or 2028, after which construction can begin.

**Get ready for a thrilling adventure and a fresh, colorful world at Disney Adventure World!**

This seems like the kind of impressive rumor that the french fans have been known to make-up when they need extra clicks and engagement. This reminds me of when one of those vloggers made a whole thing about how Mickey and Minnie Runaway Railway was coming to Fantasyland, along with a lot of new rides. There was nothing behind that, but they weren't the first, neither the last to try it.

Since Ally! (the one who was publishing internal documents) received his cease and desist a while back, there is very little leaking out of Walt Disney Imagineering and DLP management. If you remember, how Disney caught him and his internal source was the fake leak of a "Starflyer" (chair ride on a tower) that he put online.
 

nickys

Premium Member
This seems like the kind of impressive rumor that the french fans have been known to make-up when they need extra clicks and engagement. This reminds me of when one of those vloggers made a whole thing about how Mickey and Minnie Runaway Railway was coming to Fantasyland, along with a lot of new rides. There was nothing behind that, but they weren't the first, neither the last to try it.

Since Ally! (the one who was publishing internal documents) received his cease and desist a while back, there is very little leaking out of Walt Disney Imagineering and DLP management. If you remember, how Disney caught him and his internal source was the fake leak of a "Starflyer" (chair ride on a tower) that he put online.
I hadn’t heard (or hadn’t remembered) how he got caught.

But I find it ironic that the Up ride is not dissimilar to that “fake” story.
 

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