MK Piston Peak and Villains Land Construction Thread

[lazyboy97o]

We see this a lot. They pay their Imagineers to develop and build stuff to completion and the guests never get to see/experience it.

Now we can say Disney wastes money in both their Movie and their parks business.

You don’t have to building anything to get a patent.

 

[FigmentFan82]

They could add a second Dumbo next to the other one for capacity. Then you'd have four spinners at MK.

I said version, not quantity.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

It actually describes both -- it specifically says it can be configured to rotate around an axis (i.e., a spinner) but could also be used for other things.

Sure but why go to all the trouble to describe a very complex and unique track ride system when you’re only planning on using it for a simple spinner, it sure seems to me like what is described in the entire patent would be a unique ride system for this attraction that would allow for the off-road style that is being advertised.

I wasn’t even sure if the second attraction was still happening I can’t remember when the last time it was mentioned? But of course, at one time it was mentioned and there’s been no confirmation that it’s been canceled.

 

[lazyboy97o]

Sure but why go to all the trouble to describe a very complex and unique track ride system when you’re only planning on using it for a simple spinner

Because they want to own the process described in the patent to prevent someone else from using it. Patents aren’t tied to approved projects. They have a number where they’ve gone through the trouble of describing a unique ride system and have never built it.

 

[co10064]

Midway Mania is fun, but I always thought of Slinky Dog as the chaser. Maybe because MM predates the land itself. I remember running to Slinky Dog at rope drop and it was already a half hour wait by the time we got there.

I think internally TSMM was designed to be the land’s headliner “E,” with SDD being thought of as a D (or even C) and Aliens a B/A.

Evidence for this is that the new TSMM queue is much longer than the SDD queue. The portion of the SDD queue that was covered after the fact was designed as overflow, and thus was not originally given shade. In contrast, the new TSMM queue is entirely shaded and features two new outdoor areas that are rarely fully utilized.

SDD is much more popular than they thought it would be, which is why the MIDC is being built (to take pressure off it) rather than what the park arguably needs more, an all ages dark ride.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

Because they want to own the process described in the patent to prevent someone else from using it.

Time will tell. I’d put my chips on the road rally but I’ve never been that lucky with roulette!

 

[James Alucobond]

Time will tell. I’d put my chips on the road rally but I’ve never been that lucky with roulette!

He didn't say this was a time they wouldn't use it. He was explaining why they had patented many other things in the past that were never built.

 

[MisterPenguin]

The patent makes it sound like that the armature doesn't have to be connected to a central axis, like a typical spinner, but be on some sort of track going around a non-circular track, like the old carney 'whip' rides. Imagine if the vehicles below could also lift up and down, or simply go over rough terrain....

 

[rreading]

I presume it’s been discussed here, but I haven’t seen anything about it…but if this photo is representative, then it looks like instead of rivers of America, we’re going to have a different water view?

 

[Stupido]

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I presume it’s been discussed here, but I haven’t seen anything about it…but if this photo is representative, then it looks like instead of rivers of America, we’re going to have a different water view?

If you back a few pages to the latest construction photos, you'll find a brief discussion. They're framing out the waterway currently, and we should have a better idea of how robust this waterway will look soon.

 

[mattpeto]

Time will tell. I’d put my chips on the road rally but I’ve never been that lucky with roulette!

I feel like without confirmation it’s 50-50 right now honestly. It could be either.

From the summary: “A ride system may include a ride vehicle configured to move along a ride path adjacent a track, and an arm coupled to the ride vehicle. The ride vehicle may be movable separately from the arm. The ride vehicle may include features to support the ride vehicle on a ride surface of the ride path, such that the ride vehicle may follow the ride's terrain. The arm may articulate (e.g., move between positions) to adjust a position of the ride vehicle relative to the ride path. The arm may adjust the lateral and/or vertical position of the ride vehicle along the ride. The ride system may include a chassis coupled to the track, and the arm may be coupled to the chassis. The arm may be extendable and pivotable relative to the chassis, such as to adjust the position of the ride vehicle as the chassis rides along the track.”

That description sounds more like the E-Ticket than the Family ride.

 

[PizzaPlanet]

A modernized kangaroo ride system would be very neat. Similar to how Mater’s Junkyard Jamboree is an updated version of the classic whip ride

 

[Touchdown]

A modernized kangaroo ride system would be very neat. Similar to how Mater’s Junkyard Jamboree is an updated version of the classic whip ride

Maters isn’t a redesign of a Whip though, it’s the love child of a Crazy Daisy and a Whip.

 

[Incomudro]

I feel like without confirmation it’s 50-50 right now honestly. It could be either.

From the summary: “A ride system may include a ride vehicle configured to move along a ride path adjacent a track, and an arm coupled to the ride vehicle. The ride vehicle may be movable separately from the arm. The ride vehicle may include features to support the ride vehicle on a ride surface of the ride path, such that the ride vehicle may follow the ride's terrain. The arm may articulate (e.g., move between positions) to adjust a position of the ride vehicle relative to the ride path. The arm may adjust the lateral and/or vertical position of the ride vehicle along the ride. The ride system may include a chassis coupled to the track, and the arm may be coupled to the chassis. The arm may be extendable and pivotable relative to the chassis, such as to adjust the position of the ride vehicle as the chassis rides along the track.”

That description sounds more like the E-Ticket than the Family ride.

I've been inclined to believe that the images we saw were of a spinner ride.
But... Reading what you said here, and thinking about it... Perhaps this is the main ride?
That might explain some of the mystery of the ride system.
We've been wondering if these vehicles would be on a track like Radiator Springs, or by wire like that off road test footage we saw way back when.
What if it's something different entirely?

 

[mattpeto]

I've been incline to believe that the images we saw were of a spinner ride.
But... Reading what you said here, and thinking about it... Perhaps this is the main ride?
That might explain some of the mystery of the ride system.
We've been wondering if these vehicles would be on a track like Radiator Springs, or by wire like that off road test footage we saw way back when.
What if it's something different entirely?

Especially since the patent was first filed in June 2024.

 

[BrianLo]

I think this is an incredibly over-engineered system for the E-ticket. Nothing about the main attraction suggestions guests can steer between two paths. I cannot fathom they’d go to such lengths and to over complicate the major ride.

 

[mysto]

"Mater's National Park Adventure" is an E ticket. "Mr. Mysto's National Park Adventure" is an A ticket. Same ride.

I feel the system could be used for either, the drawing doesn't show exactly what the arm is attached to, although it appears to be a rail.

And how are they going to keep the guests from getting their ankles caught under the wheel of their own vehicle? In today's world of ubiquitous CYA this seems unlikely to fly once the Dept. of Risk Management is consulted.

 

[MisterPenguin]

I've been incline to believe that the images we saw were of a spinner ride.
But... Reading what you said here, and thinking about it... Perhaps this is the main ride?
That might explain some of the mystery of the ride system.
We've been wondering if these vehicles would be on a track like Radiator Springs, or by wire like that off road test footage we saw way back when.
What if it's something different entirely?

It'd be a pretty significant feat of engineering if an armature attached to the side of the RV can take the RV to loop over its own trajectory.

 

[mysto]

I presume it’s been discussed here, but I haven’t seen anything about it…but if this photo is representative, then it looks like instead of rivers of America, we’re going to have a different water view?

That's a drainage ditch for HVAC condensate. They will dress it up a little, but we want a lot of AC so they planned for that.

 

[mattpeto]

I think this is an incredibly over-engineered system for the E-ticket. Nothing about the main attraction suggestions guests can steer between two paths. I cannot fathom they’d go to such lengths and to over complicate the major ride.

I don’t see the patent talking about steering at all, but stuff like inclines and declines on the track clearly fits what it’s covering. And that’s really the point — it’s not about guests driving the ride, it’s about the track and vehicle being able to change and react dynamically, which is a different level of complexity.