Transformative Multi-Year Expansion Announced for WDS Paris

[Nickm2022]

I agree. The park needs family rides like Ratatouille, Cars road trip and Spiderma, especially since there are many people who don't go on thrill rides like the 2 coasters and the Tower of Terror.

Agree, yk Toy Story Playland gets a lot of hate but without it children would have nothing to do. Personal pitch would be give me a family ride for hunchback of NotreDame or Beauty and the Beast

 

[J4546]

pathway to tsl looks good! I like the colored mulch.

 

[Animaniac93-98]

pathway to tsl looks good! I like the colored mulch.

It's similar to what's being used in Fantasyland right now while it's too cold to plant flowers

 

[Animaniac93-98]

The new paving, lighting and landscaping in World Premier Plaza does help to make it look nicer, but it's still a big empty space with no sense of clearly defined place. Buildings are just there, the department store false front in particular.

Contrast that with Main Street next door. Imagine a Hollywood version build to the same standard and detail?

Even if they remodeled the area around Crush/Cars Race Rally and Magic Carpets, it would still just be a bunch of stuff thrown together.

World Premier itself is quite nice. Better looking than Studio 1. Kind of makes me wonder what if they extended the building to enclose all of World Premier Plaza to give the park more indoor space and improve the aesthetic for that land

 

[marni1971]

World Premier itself is quite nice. Better looking than Studio 1. Kind of makes me wonder what if they extended the building to enclose all of World Premier Plaza to give the park more indoor space and improve the aesthetic for that land

We both know they’re extending nothing !

 

[Supersnow84]

Potentially hot takes… Fantasy Springs as a land isn’t that competent. Arrendelle, at least as far as the HKDL package is concerned, I prefer greatly over the Fantasy Springs Frozen offering. FEA is miles better than mermaid and a flushed out new build improves the experience.

All new Fantasyland and Fantasy Springs are - are ride facades. It’s poor land design. This is much better.

Finally someone who agrees that fantasy springs is basically just 2023 new fantasyland

 

[Supersnow84]

Oh I know. But no one will care that it’s setup for the future, when it opens to grand fanfare and there is nothing there beside frozen at the very end.

It’s the Galaxy Edge problem all over.

I think this is the biggest issue

Yes the fact they’ve basically set the park up for 20 years is good

But guests won’t see that, they will see a long long walk to a very small frozen land stapled onto the back of the park and since the lake is designed to be a pseudo celestial park it doesn’t really even have a real sense of place

 

[UNCgolf]

The new FEA is better than the original, but it's still a mediocre ride at best. Doing a plussed clone of a shoehorned, compromised attraction was such a bad idea

 

[Nickm2022]

Finally someone who agrees that fantasy springs is basically just 2023 new fantasyland

it is but also who cares since its so much better. Fantasy Springs will likely be the path some future lands take, ie 2-3 mini lands in one. reminds me of Tropical Americas or Tokyos new Adventureland concept art

 

[Supersnow84]

I mean it’s not so much the “mini lands with a central theme”

It’s the “3/4 of the theming is just hiding show buildings”

 

[denyuntilcaught]

I personally think the problem with Fantasy Springs is that it simply doesn't justify its existence. Whereas everything else in TDS is and feels new and novel to the resort, Springs feels duplicative to Fantasyland at TDL, just done with a bit more polish and a larger scale. Not to mention it's pretty harshly atonal to the rest of TDL.

I think this is the same sort of lack of cohesive thinking that's plaguing DAW, frankly. And the DCA expansions (namely Pandora; Coco's grand and Avengers...ok).

 

[Nickm2022]

I personally think the problem with Fantasy Springs is that it simply doesn't justify its existence. Whereas everything else in TDS is and feels new and novel to the resort, Springs feels duplicative to Fantasyland at TDL, just done with a bit more polish and a larger scale. Not to mention it's pretty harshly atonal to the rest of TDL.

I think this is the same sort of lack of cohesive thinking that's plaguing DAW, frankly. And the DCA expansions (namely Pandora; Coco's grand and Avengers...ok).

I disagree, the biggest issue disney sea had was the lack of disney characters and if so where to put them, now all the disney characters have a spot that is far back from the rest of the park, best of both worlds

 

[denyuntilcaught]

I disagree, the biggest issue disney sea had was the lack of disney characters and if so where to put them, now all the disney characters have a spot that is far back from the rest of the park, best of both worlds

I would argue the best way to integrate characters into the park would be to naturally weave them into the fabric of the park, not to shove them into an odd corner via a Fantasyland dupe.

 

[Animaniac93-98]

I disagree, the biggest issue disney sea had was the lack of disney characters

Was that really an issue in a park with attractions based on Little Mermaid, Finding Nemo and Aladdin and Disney characters appearing in meet and greets and shows elsewhere?

 

[BasiltheBatLord]

I disagree, the biggest issue disney sea had was the lack of disney characters and if so where to put them, now all the disney characters have a spot that is far back from the rest of the park, best of both worlds

Fantasy Springs is not going to keep Disney characters out of the rest of TDS whenever eventual replacements and expansions come (see: Nemo & Friends SeaRider)

 

[Animaniac93-98]

 

[SplashJacket]

I don’t understand how this park doesn’t have more trees in the front. Replacing the cheap flooring with nice flooring is obviously an improvement, but it needs an improved sense of place

 

[marni1971]

I don’t understand how this park doesn’t have more trees in the front. Replacing the cheap flooring with nice flooring is obviously an improvement, but it needs an improved sense of place

It has new ones either side of this plaza. Seems like they’re keeping the area clear for temporary / projection show viewing.

 

[Gusey]

That and it's potentially still a parade entrance

 

[Sir_Cliff]

The new paving, lighting and landscaping in World Premier Plaza does help to make it look nicer, but it's still a big empty space with no sense of clearly defined place. Buildings are just there, the department store false front in particular.

Contrast that with Main Street next door. Imagine a Hollywood version build to the same standard and detail?

Even if they remodeled the area around Crush/Cars Race Rally and Magic Carpets, it would still just be a bunch of stuff thrown together.

World Premier itself is quite nice. Better looking than Studio 1. Kind of makes me wonder what if they extended the building to enclose all of World Premier Plaza to give the park more indoor space and improve the aesthetic for that land

This was my feeling, too. It's nicer, but it still feels a little like a bunch of themed (to various degrees) facades dotted around a big open space. I really think that, at a minimum, they need to at least demolish everything in front of ToT and either demolish or completely re-work the animation building to create something that looks like an actual streetscape or plaza where the structures relate to each other in some kind of organic manner. The new ToT gift shop is yet another themed structure dotted around the area without any clear logic for its placement.