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DAK 'Encanto' and 'Indiana Jones'-themed experiences at Animal Kingdom

AidenRodriguez731

AidenRodriguez731

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WorldExplorer said:
It's really creepy how some of you seem to find the idea of not going to a Disney park an insurmountable task. Not even all of them, just one.

All I said was that I am not giving Disney money for a park that doesn't include what I care about anymore. Giving Disney money is not the default state of being.

Does that mean I expect some kind of mass exodus or that people won't show up to the new land? No. It means I will not be one of those people that does show up.

When the new area is crowded after I say I am not going to go into Animal Kingdom anymore, that actually doesn't contradict anything I said, because I am not one of those people.

I would like to spend my money supporting small businesses and seeing more of my country, instead of trying to squeeze happiness out of an expensive park that I already have experienced many, many, many, many, many times.

I have basic self control.
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And yet here you are. Talking about and providing free lip service to said “mega organization” all press is good press after all.
 
WorldExplorer

WorldExplorer

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Even knowing this was put up in September it's still conspicuous timing.

You're never going to be my dino, Gertie...
 
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veritas55

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Doglover22 said:
Do we know if the Encanto ride will be a water ride or a dark-ride?? Being something like Shanghai Pirates would be so cool!
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Apparently tracked dark ride, nothing special about the ride system.

Having ridden the Shanghai Pirates, I remain flabbergasted it hasn't made it's way to the States yet. It's a truly amazing system and that ride was mind-blowingly good. Although I shouldn't be surprised: consider how long it took to get a trackless ride like Pooh from Japan over here.....
 
HMF

HMF

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veritas55 said:
Having ridden the Shanghai Pirates, I remain flabbergasted it hasn't made it's way to the States yet. It's a truly amazing system and that ride was mind-blowingly good. Although I shouldn't be surprised: consider how long it took to get a trackless ride like Pooh from Japan over here.....
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We have better though admittedly less advanced attractions still called POTC over here. I would like to see the technology adapted here for something else though IP based or not as long as it fits where it is placed then again, all the parks have become thematic no-man's lands now so whatever.
 
Brer Oswald

Brer Oswald

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veritas55 said:
Apparently tracked dark ride, nothing special about the ride system.

Having ridden the Shanghai Pirates, I remain flabbergasted it hasn't made it's way to the States yet. It's a truly amazing system and that ride was mind-blowingly good. Although I shouldn't be surprised: consider how long it took to get a trackless ride like Pooh from Japan over here.....
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We still haven’t got a trackless ride like Pooh over here.
 
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veritas55

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HMF said:
We have better though admittedly less advanced attractions still called POTC over here. I would like to see the technology adapted here for something else though IP based or not as long as it fits where it is placed then again, all the parks have become thematic no-man's lands now so whatever.
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to be clear, my suggestion wasn't to bring the Shanghai POTC-themed ride over here, but rather the ride system and general design of the ride (which, in my view, was a near-perfect integration of practical effects blended with screens -- a masterclass in how to do a modern Disney dark ride -- it qualifies as that, right?)

It does appear they will use the similar technology on the Avatar ride at DL, which would be a great use of it -- and I have confidence Cameron will help push the technology and design. It may be what Na'vi river journey could have been?
 
Bocabear

Bocabear

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I would have loved for us to have gotten a trackless Pooh on the scale of the TOkyo ride instead of the half-hearted version we received... I would also love to see us get an Alice ride, A Pinocchio ride, A Tangled Ride, A B&TB ride, A Sinbad Ride, A ride using the Shanghai Pirates system, A Mystic Manor ride...there are so many rides in the various parks around the world I would not mind seeing cloned into WDW... The parks could all use new attractions.....
 
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DrStarlander

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Disstevefan1 said:
I love Flight of Passage, but is that a dragon?

PS. I really don't care what it is, its a great attraction
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I haven't been on FoP, so I'm curious, is it great more because of the IP (banshees, setting, story?) or the ride system (e.g., would it be a great ride if it was Star Wars speeder-biker or flying a Marvel vehicle or something else)?
 
SamusAranX

SamusAranX

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veritas55 said:
Yeah, I don't understand why there is the re-narrative that Dinosaur was somehow popular or not "underutilized" space as a ride.

It was clearly not a successful ride in terms of rider interest. It's low wait times were not a solely a reflection of high capacity. When you run the ratio of average wait time by operating hourly capacity, thereby controlling for the different hourly capacities of each ride, rides like Space Mountain, Pirates, Big Thunder, Rise of the Resistance, Everest, Avatar Flight of Passage, tower of terror, Guardians all show significantly greater rider interest than Dinosaur. And just commonsense tells you that: How many people has anyone spoken to after a Disney trip who excitedly said "I went on this amazing ride - Dinosaur (or Countdown) - at Disney! You've got to ride it!" I have heard that when Everest opened. And Avatar. And tower of Terror. And Rise. Even Tron. I've never -- not once -- heard that about Dinosaur. Very few people get off that ride and immediately felt a need to get back in line -- even with 10 minute waits. Whereas you see guests recycling back on Everest repeatedly in low-line situation.

It's low wait times simply reflect it just wasn't a very good ride. It was the Mission: Space of Animal Kingdom.

This was an easy and correct call here: the Indiana Jones versions of this ride system are far superior to Dinosaur, which was of marginal interest to most guests throughout its existence.
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Unfortunately this is the not as objective of a metric as we like it to be [low wait times] to determine ride quality/ popularity

rides with higher throughput/ capacity are naturally not going to have 1+ hour waits.

Also, and you can do more research on the subject, but having “less popular” rides with consistently lower wait times can be a sign of a healthy theme park. You WANT enough attractions that spread crowds to where there’s some that churn people in and out. If every ride in the park consistently has longer waits simultaneously, that’s a sign the park is under built (hello Hollywood Studios).

Now, this isn’t a “dinosaur was super popular and is being maligned” post. I’m inclined to think that it wasn’t the most popular experience based on anecdotal conversations and the fact that it more often than not had lower wait times in a park with already low capacity in terms of attractions. But regardless, keeping dinosaur and just building from the ground up would have led to the latter situation I described; a healthier park that now has attractions that are massively popular, but with other attractions that people could easily hop on, while spreading the crowds around a bit. Long story short, wait times don’t determine how good a ride is.
 
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Disstevefan1

Disstevefan1

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DrStarlander said:
I haven't been on FoP, so I'm curious, is it great more because of the IP (banshees, setting, story?) or the ride system (e.g., would it be a great ride if it was Star Wars speeder-biker or flying a Marvel vehicle or something else)?
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For me its great because of the ride system!!! IP does not matter in my opinion.

When I first rode it, I described it as Sorin' on steroids!!!
 

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