DAK 'Encanto' and 'Indiana Jones'-themed experiences at Animal Kingdom

[flyerjab]

This particular replacement land will be of considerable interest to watch in terms of the creative output of today’s Imagineering. I know that economics are in play of course, but the degree and quality of theming and immersion will be directly comparable to Harambe and Anandapur. This will give hints as to whether or not the budget is there and/or the current crop of Imagineers are up to the task. I personally think that they are.

 

[Timothy_Q]

My main issue with the Dinoland was that it never felt like a full cohesive land to me

Even though it had more rides than both Asia and Africa, the weird layout and the conflicting aesthetics/concepts made it feel like a very incomplete and uneven experience

Tropical Americas won't increase the park's ride count pre pandemic, but to me it'll feel like a much fuller experience that feels inline with the rest of DAK

 

[Charlie The Chatbox Ghost]

Real talk though, isn't that literally also true for Bugs Life? Nothing about it is anything that bugs do

Fair, though at least in that movie the Bugs are real animals in a human world, whereas in Zootopia the animals are anthropomorphized human-like animals with human technology, fashion, and culture. Easy to imagine that the Bugs Life characters are real bugs in the real world than it is to imagine Judy and Nick are a real rabbit and fox in the real world.

 

[Advisable Joseph]

About anthropomorphic animals:

Real talk though, isn't that literally also true for Bugs Life? Nothing about it is anything that bugs do

And again, the bugs don't even have the right number of limbs! Nor did their behavior reflect the animals' behavior.

The animal stuff [from Zootopia] is just essentially visual gags.

I think you will enjoy, or at least tolerate, the new additions more if you relax and appreciate the animal stuff. There's more there than you realize.

That's the theme of the environment: there's no rule that you must ignore it.


Getting back on topic: thinking about Mayan mythology, would anthropomorphic animals in the Indiana Jones ride bother you?

 

[Advisable Joseph]

Oh and

to imagine Judy and Nick are a real rabbit and fox in the real world.

They just have to be heavily related. Think of Ranger Rick: he uses technology!

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[TrainsOfDisney]

I love Joe but there was plenty of cartoons represented in the early days of DAK.

Encanto has as much to do with animals as Pocahontas.

I think Indiana jones is a stretch and an odd choice for an IP since everything recent has been such a flop but of course…. Tron…. Haha

 

[Advisable Joseph]

Encanto has as much to do with animals as Pocahontas.

I see, but you're fixating on the plot, instead of the setting, namely, Antonio's room.

Pocahontas has other problems. (But she was there!)

 

[larryz]

And again, the bugs don't even have the right number of limbs! Nor did their behavior reflect the animals' behavior.

The Bug Zapper in the film disagrees...

 

[Disney Analyst]

I enjoy Dinosaur, but I never wanted to ride it over and over again.

Where as Indiana Jones at Disneyland… I could ride that thing all day.

 

[Brer Panther]

I'm amazed at the current discussion regarding Dinoland. Before it was removed, everyone hated it. Now that it's in the process of being rethemed into Tropical Americas it was a "mistake."

I, for one, like Dinosaur. And I really don't care about Dino-Rama being removed, I'm just miffed that they're not being replaced with new attractions focusing on, y'know, dinosaurs. But nope, instead we're getting Indiana Jones and "WE DON'T TALK ABOUT BRUNO NO NO NO".

Box office wasn’t everything.

It is to Disney. If it weren't, we'd have probably gotten a Good Dinosaur ride in place of Dino-Rama instead of Encanto.

Tiana and Encanto didn’t do great in box office but became cultural staples that many kids identified with

I have to raise an eyebrow at your claim of The Princess and the Frog being a "cultural staple". I mean, it's a good movie, but for the longest time it was mostly ignored by Disney outside of the Tiana merchandise made as part of the "Disney Princess" lineup. I mostly saw people saying that it was underrated. It was well-liked, but it was never an Encanto-level phenomenon (I'm not even sure how good it does on Disney Plus). It wasn't until 2020 that Disney suddenly started hyping Tiana up.

I was standing outside the exit of Dinosaur into the store for about 20 minutes as my family looked at the merchandise, and I didn't see or hear anyone complaining, let alone saying they HATED the ride. In fact, most people were smiling. Lots of folks clapped as they got off the EMV.

But how could they have liked it if it didn't have Mirabel and Bruno?! HOW, I ask you?!

I see, but you're fixating on the plot, instead of the setting, namely, Antonio's room.

How much of the movie is spent in Antonio's room? Two scenes? Somehow, I doubt the Encanto fans are gonna want the ride to focus on THAT as opposed to the more prominent heavily-merchandised characters like Mirabel and Bruno (y'know, the ones who the plot actually focuses on?), and Disney knows it.

It's like adding a Mulan attraction to Asia and having it be about Mulan running around with pandas and snow leopards. That's not what Mulan was about, it's not what people want in a Mulan attraction, and Disney knows this.

 

[BrianLo]

I was standing outside the exit of Dinosaur into the store for about 20 minutes as my family looked at the merchandise, and I didn't see or hear anyone complaining, let alone saying they HATED the ride. In fact, most people were smiling. Lots of folks clapped as they got off the EMV.

Hate is a strong word. It is one of the worst rated D/E tickets on property along with Small World and Hall of Presidents.

Mission Space and Figment are the clear frontrunners.

Tomorrowland speedway I think is more like a C ticket these days.

I found Dinosaur deeply disappointing. I actually preferred the land and even up to the queue over the ride itself.

 

[Advisable Joseph]

How much of the movie is spent in Antonio's room? Two scenes? Somehow, I doubt the Encanto fans are gonna want the ride to focus on THAT

Again, you're fixating on the plot.

The point is to go to the setting.

 

[JackCH]

I’ve often wondered why Jurassic Park seems to have a monopoly on live action dinosaurs as a franchise. There is just nothing else in the conversation. Especially since after the first one they are all fairly mediocre films. Surely someone else could capture that dinosaur magic?

I think Universal having JP just makes sustaining a dinosaur land, especially in the era of IP’s, much more difficult.

 

[AidenRodriguez731]

I, for one, like Dinosaur. And I really don't care about Dino-Rama being removed, I'm just miffed that they're not being replaced with new attractions focusing on, y'know, dinosaurs. But nope, instead we're getting Indiana Jones and "WE DON'T TALK ABOUT BRUNO NO NO NO".

It is to Disney. If it weren't, we'd have probably gotten a Good Dinosaur ride in place of Dino-Rama instead of Encanto.

I have to raise an eyebrow at your claim of The Princess and the Frog being a "cultural staple". I mean, it's a good movie, but for the longest time it was mostly ignored by Disney outside of the Tiana merchandise made as part of the "Disney Princess" lineup. I mostly saw people saying that it was underrated. It was well-liked, but it was never an Encanto-level phenomenon (I'm not even sure how good it does on Disney Plus). It wasn't until 2020 that Disney suddenly started hyping Tiana up.

But how could they have liked it if it didn't have Mirabel and Bruno?! HOW, I ask you?!

How much of the movie is spent in Antonio's room? Two scenes? Somehow, I doubt the Encanto fans are gonna want the ride to focus on THAT as opposed to the more prominent heavily-merchandised characters like Mirabel and Bruno (y'know, the ones who the plot actually focuses on?), and Disney knows it.

It's like adding a Mulan attraction to Asia and having it be about Mulan running around with pandas and snow leopards. That's not what Mulan was about, it's not what people want in a Mulan attraction, and Disney knows this.

Well of course you would raise an eyebrow no offense but looking at your name. In my community, Tiana has been a very cherished princess who went years being underrepresented because she wasn't as successful as Tangled. In a lot of communities, she is still a huge cultural staple and I see children dress as her for Halloween/have backpacks with her on it still. (Almost 20 years later so these kids weren't even alive for that movie)

Also you just proved your own point because Good Dinosaur actually did better than Encanto at the box office, it just didn't have the hype or cultural relevance around it.

 

[doctornick]

I'm amazed at the current discussion regarding Dinoland. Before it was removed, everyone hated it. Now that it's in the process of being rethemed into Tropical Americas it was a "mistake."

It is a mistake to remove dinosaurs from DAK. It is not a mistake to revamp (most of) Dinoland USA. The Dinorama portion was long overdue for replacement - but it would have been better to keep the dinosaur premise for the land.

 

[AidenRodriguez731]

It is a mistake to remove dinosaurs from DAK. It is not a mistake to revamp (most of) Dinoland USA. The Dinorama portion was long overdue for replacement - but it would have been better to keep the dinosaur premise for the land.

Eh nah, it's time for something new imo

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

I'm amazed at the current discussion regarding Dinoland. Before it was removed, everyone hated it. Now that it's in the process of being rethemed into Tropical Americas it was a "mistake."

I think most fans would have kept dinoland and then had Encanto replace the carnival area.

 

[EPCOTCenterLover]

"It has nothing to do with Universal."

I think it has a lot to do with Universal. They "own" dinosaurs just as Disney "owns" mermaids and now snowmen.

 

[JohnD]

It is a mistake to remove dinosaurs from DAK. It is not a mistake to revamp (most of) Dinoland USA. The Dinorama portion was long overdue for replacement - but it would have been better to keep the dinosaur premise for the land.

I have no preference one way or the other. The pre-show was getting very dated however.

 

[doctornick]

"It has nothing to do with Universal."

I think it has a lot to do with Universal. They "own" dinosaurs just as Disney "owns" mermaids and now snowmen.

Well, they “own” the idea of “dinosaurs as monsters/threat”. They’ve done pretty much nothing with the idea of the beauty/majesty/fascination with dinosaurs and that’s definitely a hole that Disney could fill.