DAK 'Encanto' and 'Indiana Jones'-themed experiences at Animal Kingdom

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AidenRodriguez731

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Brer Panther said:
The Princess and the Frog "failed to catch on" too (it wasn't a flop, it just didn't make as much money as Disney was expecting because they gave it a lousy release date and they brushed it off as a flop because it was - horror of horrors - not CGI) but that still got a ride. Of course, we all know why THAT is...

Word. Wizarding World did a lot of damage to the Disney parks, just not for the reason everyone thinks.
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Oh boy here we go again with Tiana’s in the dinosaur thread.

Box office wasn’t everything. Tiana and Encanto didn’t do great in box office but became cultural staples that many kids identified with
 
JD80

JD80

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Bocabear said:
Wizarding World was beautifully designed and more immersive than anything that Disney has done for WDW... Disney tries to do it but then flubs it...A Star Wars theme land that includes lo location anyone ever saw, and none of the legacy characters, Pandora again with an unknown location, and not enough to be engaging... Maybe part of it is the choice of IP and using one that really has a sense of place... Wizarding World has a lot of recognizable areas, Great shopping and F&B. I also think the franchise has a little more power than the latest regurgitation of a Toy Story Land or the Avatar franchise.
I feel like WDW needs to bring back better thematic shopping like Wizarding World has done... Stop doing the generic Disney merchandise stores in the parks... Let the charmless World Of Disney handle that... Better merch, thengs you can't pick up at Wal-Mart. Things attached to an attraction... When TOT first opened the Gift Shop was full of Hollywood Tower Hotel merch that looked exactly like things you wuld find at a world class hotel. Nicely designed merchandise, and very few of the tacky T-shirt and plastic toy crap. At the time (early 90s) I saw lots of people buying things... I bought a few things too...which I rarely do. Nowadays I go into these more-generic-by-the-minute shops and lose interest almost immediately...If they focused on better goods and more of a shopping experience VS a cattle call, that would be great....
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A Star Wars land would never have been as good as the Harry Potter lands because of the nature of the two franchises.

Harry Potter had distinct settings that spanned books/movies so you knew them intimately. Star Wars didn't have any settings that lent itself to something like Diagon Alley as a land.

Would Tatooine be a good land? Hoth? Generic snow and sand landscapes? Can you make a outdoors land based off the Death Star? The majority of Star Wars memorable locations are rooms/places that are not conducive to lands but would make amazing attractions or dining experiences. Any Star Wars land would always be a generic space port of some kind where you launched space ship adventures from.
 
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AidenRodriguez731

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JD80 said:
A Star Wars land would never have been as good as the Harry Potter lands because of the nature of the two franchises.

Harry Potter had distinct settings that spanned books/movies so you knew them intimately. Star Wars didn't have any settings that lent itself to something like Diagon Alley as a land.

Would Tatooine be a good land? Hoth? Generic snow and sand landscapes? Can you make a outdoors land based off the Death Star? The majority of Star Wars memorable locations are rooms/places that are not conducive to lands but would make amazing attractions or dining experiences. Any Star Wars land would always be a generic space port of some kind where you launched space ship adventures from.
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Bingo. You don't NEED the land to be specific land because even if it is, there is nothing that actually comes together as a theme park land in the movies. If you have tatooine, most of it is a desert planet and the area around things like Mos Eisley are the only parts that CAN become a land and they would look terrible because its a giant flat desert planet.
 
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AidenRodriguez731

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Charlie The Chatbox Ghost said:
I’ve always thought Zootopia was a bad fit for AK because nothing in the movie has anything to truly do with animals or conservation- it’s a story about human problems, specifically racism, wrapped in an animal based metaphor. The animal stuff is just essentially visual gags.
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Real talk though, isn't that literally also true for Bugs Life? Nothing about it is anything that bugs do
 
Incomudro

Incomudro

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Charlie The Chatbox Ghost said:
This might sound mean, but like 90% of the ideas that fans come up with are just… awful. They, like current management, just think of a movie and try to slap it somewhere at random. I’ve seen someone say they should add Coco to Big Thunder Mountain because it would “make it better since no one knows what movie Big Thunder is based on”. Ignoring the fact that not a single scene in Coco looks anything like BTM, the assumption that everything is based on a movie says a lot about where we’re at.
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What you described is essentially what is happening at WDW.
Non creative people coming up with ideas, and handing them to not particularly creative people.
The lands themselves often look great, but they are lacking in content and engagement.
There is not much you take away with you from the experience.
I've said it before, that it's like the old Simpsons episode The Homer car.
There is a reason actual creatives are supposed to be the one's who create.
 
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AidenRodriguez731

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Disstevefan1 said:
Ha, there was never a competition for princesses. Disney always ruled for decades.

At the time AK was created, Disney could have won the dino war, they simply couldn't get it done.
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Yeah they COULD have if they also had an insanely popular director direct 2 dinosaur movies better and more loved than the first 2 Jurassic Park films that were released at the time WHILE going through various financial hardships directly against a rival studio who was already working on a Jurassic Park ride.

But since we aren't in the Magic Kingdom, let's be real here. That's not gonna happen.
 
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AidenRodriguez731

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Incomudro said:
Hated it?
The general public hated it?
You have anything to support that?
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It had the weakest 2 rides in the park (almost tied with Na'vi (the lower ticket ride) as an E-Ticket)
Countless videos about how it's an Imagineering Failure, Most Misunderstood Land, Unhinged land.

A lot of the love for it came AFTER it being closed. There was a ton of videos I saw on Tiktok celebrating its closure and how cheap it looked. It's not just anecdotal. Disney has the surverys for a reason and they've been taking down or improving a lot of the stuff with low satisfaction scores
 
lazyboy97o

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Disgruntled Walt said:
This talk of forfeiting dinosaurs is stupid. Dinosaurs are not just Jurassic Park. Disney was telling a much different story than Jurassic Park, and Dinoland was not anywhere near the same. Just because one theme park has dinosaurs doesn't mean another one 40 min away can't have dinosaurs. This is a ridiculous premise.
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Even more so with Jurassic World moving more to generic monsters as they continue to introduce genetically engineered “dinosaurs” as the big threats.
 
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Disgruntled Walt

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AidenRodriguez731 said:
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It had the weakest 2 rides in the park (almost tied with Na'vi (the lower ticket ride) as an E-Ticket)
Countless videos about how it's an Imagineering Failure, Most Misunderstood Land, Unhinged land.

A lot of the love for it came AFTER it being closed. There was a ton of videos I saw on Tiktok celebrating its closure and how cheap it looked. It's not just anecdotal. Disney has the surverys for a reason and they've been taking down or improving a lot of the stuff with low satisfaction scores
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Who decided where those red lines should be? Also, if Dinosaur were firing on all cylinders, it would be rated higher.
 

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