flynnibus
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Well, opening attractions that can actually run open to close and a good 50% more of the day is a good example of getting more than one step forward.
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MK Cars-Themed Attractions at Magic Kingdom
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Well, opening attractions that can actually run open to close and a good 50% more of the day is a good example of getting more than one step forward.
TrainsOfDisney
Well-Known Member
They could technically but they both have a unique issue - they were designed to be relatively low capacity. So if you increase the popularity to sell LL’s you fix one problem but create another.
Disney still occasionally creates low capacity filler attractions - Vacation Shorts being the most recent example I can think of.
Kinda surprised they didn’t limit the number of Villians performances to reduce cast costs and sell LL’s
BrianLo
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It’s two steps forward, I certainly agree. But I appreciate the frustration. The original proposal from 2022 might have added double the capacity to the park then what we are getting. Enough that it might have actually induced less demand than capacity it added.
Purduevian
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Vacation fun isn't low capacity... theater is ~250 people and the show can run at least 4 times an hour. It is certainly a filler attraction, but it's not Riverboat or TSI bad...
Umm that was kind of implied. I was kind of wondering why you posted so many responses to get the exact point made in my OP. Good job!
Incomudro
Well-Known Member
The river and the boat?
Absolutely.
You're seriously going to make a comparison of that to a fry cart?
flynnibus
Premium Member
It's something that would actually increase the value of the LL - if there was an actual demand for it. But...
As evil as some people think Disney is... I think even they knew the limited value of that show
flynnibus
Premium Member
Well, you and the faithful can die on that hill.. but Disney already moved on.
Anyone look at how well keeping that paddlewheeler at Disney Springs has done for setting tone and setting?
Sometimes you just gotta rip the bandaid off if you're not going to be committed to the end game.
FettFan
Well-Known Member
Even then, if they were to save the lower island of TSI and have the Belle run a circular route around it, as imagined by Eddie Sotto on his Twitter, while filling in the northern RoA, this project would be a much easier pill to swallow.
TrainsOfDisney
Well-Known Member
Yes, that would have been the best case scenario. Next best would be to keep the riverboat running AND the whole redevelopment of the island.
AidenRodriguez731
Well-Known Member
Genuine question but what do you redevelop the island as? Tom Sawyer is not working, kids these days barely know the story.
Architectural Guinea Pig
Well-Known Member
- In the Parks
- No
I can affirm, Tom Sawyer is closer to being in a history book/discussed in history classes about old pop culture in America than being an actual book and IP, along with Davy Crockett and others
TrainsOfDisney
Well-Known Member
By “redevelop” I meant with an IP like cars or coco - fully repurpose the space but keep the riverboat operating.
Making the island more popular is a bit more tricky cause you don’t want to make it too popular.
AidenRodriguez731
Well-Known Member
Coco Island? Cars island? So it’s not about the IP to clarify, it’s about the river itself. You also take away and butcher the actual identity of the IP with this as neither of them have any relation to an island, and no matter what you do, it’s not going to be popular because you have to wait in line to get the chance to go to a playground
TrainsOfDisney
Well-Known Member
Sorry…. I’m not making myself clear. It really wouldn’t be an “island” anymore.
Best case scenario (if all of ROA couldn’t be saved) -
Keep the smaller island and the boat runs the circle. This keeps the mills, 2 caves, and the riverboat running. Pretty close to a win win.
Next best scenario -
Redevelop the entire ROA but in such a way the riverboat still operates.
AidenRodriguez731
Well-Known Member
I see, that makes much more sense. I think the current plan would work well if they go through with the water but I think the perfect plan would have been to park the Riverboat up near Tiana's perhaps with a small shop + Tiana meet and greet location?
Atleast that's how I would have done it if it were up to me.
TrainsOfDisney
Well-Known Member
That’s like bolting the trolley to the tracks at DCA. “Look kids, we used to be able to ride that!”
In the steam preservation world we called that “stuffed and mounted.” I’d take it over the Belle getting scrapped just cause it would at least preserve a piece of history - but knowing she’d never steam again would be almost just as depressing.
Stupido
Well-Known Member
Yeah, I loved seeing Tiana and Naveen meeting on the LB during MVMCP last year. Also would have freed up a slot in Princess Fairytale Hall for a new meet n greet. Are there any Meet n Greets happening in Frontierland besides the random bear sightings?
TrainsOfDisney
Well-Known Member
At Disneyland Tiana can often be seen riding the Mark Twain. Not only meeting guests on the boat, but also waving to guests on the path and riding splash etc.
Incomudro
Well-Known Member
Hey... THAT works!
As there is a riverboat so prominently a part of that film.
It's kind of mind boggling how Disney is so bone headed.
They could have leaned into the riverboat as part of Tiana's at WDW.