MK Cars-Themed Attractions at Magic Kingdom

[easyrowrdw]

I don’t think this is any more productive than when you just laughed at people.

 

[Brer Panther]

The thought that if they want to visit Disneyland, they should actually travel to it like everyone else is just unfathomable.

To be fair, a lot of these people live pretty far from California and plane tickets are expensive.

 

[AidenRodriguez731]

We don’t actually know there will be water in Piston Peak.

It seems odd that there is water explicitly mentioned about 6 times in Disney's press release with an updated map making the previously existing water in the Blue Sky more obvious with water wrapping around the entire land and new water features and an explicit highlight on a showscene involving this water. But sure. Water is not technically there yet.

 

[ChrisFL]

This very obviously unserious position - pretending the Jungle Cruise River and RoA are equivalent - is an example of the “each element taken in isolation with no consideration of its place in the larger whole” philosophy taken to an absurd extreme.

Reminds me that the missing fountain in Epcot....technically Journey of Water replaced a building with one that had a lot of "water" elements, but it isn't a replacement for the fountain

 

[mlayton144]

The best thing Disney could do in terms of cost and mass appeal is fill in the area and build an outdoor roller coaster on the site. If you don’t want that then you just want them to cater to you.

Nonsense , that’s why they won’t be doing that

 

[psherman42]

It seems odd that there is water explicitly mentioned about 6 times in Disney's press release with an updated map making the previously existing water in the Blue Sky more obvious with water wrapping around the entire land and new water features and an explicit highlight on a showscene involving this water. But sure. Water is not technically there yet.

There was also a fountain in the concept art of World Celebration at Epcot.

 

[Chi84]

There was also a fountain in the concept art of World Celebration at Epcot.

But wouldn’t it make sense to wait to see whether the planned water happens instead of getting all worked up about the possibility that it won’t happen?

 

[plutofan15]

I don’t think this is any more productive than when you just laughed at people.

In my opinion it was a ridiculous statement, while certainly entitled to his opinion, the concept art was neither hastily put together nor last minute. Thus the eye roll. Thanks for letting me know how you feel.

 

[ChrisFL]

But wouldn’t it make sense to wait to see whether the planned water happens instead of getting all worked up about the possibility that it won’t happen?

We have historically lowered expectations due to past projects. Also it will be YEARS before we see this open.

 

[Casper Gutman]

We have historically lowered expectations due to past projects. Also it will be YEARS before we see this open.

I think there will be some water in the project, but it won’t create anything like the sense of openness or “frontier” the area used to feature. Look at Grizzly Peaks - there’s water, even some very pretty spots, but the overall effect is one of narrowness, of closed and confined spaces.

It should also be noted that Disney World is removing or reducing water features at a frantic pace - the rivers in the MK hub, the EPCOT fountain, the Pirates fountains, the centerpiece of the Polynesian, etc. there is a definite pattern here.

 

[lazyboy97o]

Nonsense , that’s why they won’t be doing that

It is the truth no matter how much you don’t wish to recognize it. They’re not doing it because there is still some recognition that there is no Vulcan-like, purely rational way to run a business, especially something like a theme park that is built around things that don’t directly drive revenue. But also, Villains land is going to have a coaster. The panic about the failure of Next Gen to not somehow remove the need for capacity resulted in a roller coaster being dropped into the Magic Kingdom. The big thing chosen to signify a new, Evolved Epcot was a roller coaster. The capacity constraints of Disney’s Hollywood Studios are being addressed now with a roller coaster. They’re not fully down the rabbit hole of just phoning it in, but Walt Disney World of late has absolutely recognized the unique power of the roller coaster to juice the numbers.

 

[psherman42]

But wouldn’t it make sense to wait to see whether the planned water happens instead of getting all worked up about the possibility that it won’t happen?

Because concept art has changed on past projects so why should we expect to be any different? And given how World Celebration/Communicore Hall turned out, I think it’s better for expectations to be low. I also just don’t believe even if they do have a small stream along the walkway that it’ll come anywhere close to what is there now, which includes the loss of the Liberty Belle.

 

[psherman42]

I think there will be some water in the project, but it won’t create anything like the sense of openness or “frontier” the area used to feature. Look at Grizzly Peaks - there’s water, even some very pretty spots, but the overall effect is one of narrowness, of closed and confined spaces.

It should also be noted that Disney World is removing or reducing water features at a frantic pace - the rivers in the MK hub, the EPCOT fountain, the Pirates fountains, the centerpiece of the Polynesian, etc. there is a definite pattern here.

And a lot of the water is because of the rafting ride, which this will not have.

 

[mlayton144]

It is the truth no matter how much you don’t wish to recognize it. They’re not doing it because there is still some recognition that there is no Vulcan-like, purely rational way to run a business, especially something like a theme park that is built around things that don’t directly drive revenue. But also, Villains land is going to have a coaster. The panic about the failure of Next Gen to not somehow remove the need for capacity resulted in a roller coaster being dropped into the Magic Kingdom. The big thing chosen to signify a new, Evolved Epcot was a roller coaster. The capacity constraints of Disney’s Hollywood Studios are being addressed now with a roller coaster. They’re not fully down the rabbit hole of just phoning it in, but Walt Disney World of late has absolutely recognized the unique power of the roller coaster to juice the numbers.

Don’t disagree with you on that front with coasters which I could personably take or leave , I am expecting a beautiful landscape with this project and if they don’t deliver that they failed

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

And yes there is less space to have rotting attractions in the most visited theme park in the world.

The Liberty Belle was not rotting - they just replaced the boiler (a very significant investment in steam powered vehicles) a few years ago. (Lest I be corrected…. It was 7 years…. which is recent for steam!)

In my opinion it was a ridiculous statement, while certainly entitled to his opinion, the concept art was neither hastily put together nor last minute. Thus the eye roll. Thanks for letting me know how you feel.

How do you know? There has been some conflicting reports about how long they spent on this idea.

 

[lazyboy97o]

Don’t disagree with you on that front with coasters which I could personably take or leave , I am expecting a beautiful landscape with this project and if they don’t deliver that they failed

Which is your criteria and one that will not directly generate enthusiasm or get people to show up.

 

[mlayton144]

Which is your criteria and one that will not directly generate enthusiasm or get people to show up.

It may not , but I think they recognize the need for the beautiful landscape given its place in the park, with the addition of an attraction people want to ride, plus an easier transit for guests to get to the Villains expansion (which I’m not crazy about personally but most seem to be excited about)

 

[easyrowrdw]

In my opinion it was a ridiculous statement, while certainly entitled to his opinion, the concept art was neither hastily put together nor last minute. Thus the eye roll. Thanks for letting me know how you feel.

Sure. I just think statements (like you just shared) convey that better and in a more respectful manner. I think it makes for more productive conversations.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

There was concept art of new Fantasyland showing some sort of water fall next to Beast’s castle.

It’s there….. “ta-dah!” - had to zoom in cause you aren’t allowed on the bridge without a $90 dinner reservation! Beast has got to keep the poor people out.

 

[MisterPenguin]

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That is indeed a beautiful river area... made nearly impossible to see by high cement concrete walls.

The outside of BatB has so much incomprehensibly wrong decisions made. It could've been a lovely place to hang out. Instead, I avoid it because there's nothing nice to see (and the food and ambience is overhyped).

-Your friendly neighborhood shill who always defends Disney.​