MK Cars-Themed Attractions at Magic Kingdom

[Chi84]

“Fit nicely” on what terms? You’ve dismissed the idea that theme parks are works of art or sites of historical and cultural significance, so what defines a “fit?”

What is “the other way around” and who believes it?

It fits nicely into the aesthetic of the area. A park doesn’t have to be a work of art or of cultural significance to look nice or have a themed area.

The other way around is dismissing the idea of a cars attraction in that area because it doesn’t fit the Frontierland theme.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

Let's not pretend that some haven't pitched grave consequences towards this removal. It is an essential part in trying to claim the high ground in these arguments: that the parks are being harmed in disasterous and permanent ways.

It’s definitely a major step towards an IP and ride based park - more similar to Universal Studios.

At Disneyland Park they have managed to add IP’s while keeping almost all of the charm in some way. (Except for the goats. May they rest in peace!)

 

[mlayton144]

Yeah

They could have easily added to the scenery and settings instead of removing things over time... The riverboat could have told a much more engaging story and journey if they had invested in new sets and features....which would have also benefitted the lackluster views from the train. If our train and riverboat had more to see, attendance would never have a dip...but like most things MK, they let it go....and let it go for far too long. Likewise with TSI, the added practically nothing to that island since it opened in the early 70s. They could have added new features here and there over the years....they could have made Aunt Polly's a real destination location for an insta-worthy snack you could only get there... new additions could have kept the island more popular... Revisiting it for the last time a month ago was particularly sad with the state of decay... water features dried up and not flowing...Mill no longer operational...areas roped off... ugly cool-white lightbulbs in the cavern and escape tunnel lanterns.... All bad show... The Fort looked pretty good though!

“A”for effort on that response - a snack/quick service location that no one can get to without waiting 15 minutes to ride a raft there - And what do you mean things that could have “kept” the island popular? When was that ? Was it anytime after the internet was born ?

 

[flynnibus]

missed opportunity to make TSI into a pokemon go haven...

 

[Emamba]

Im having a hard time seeing how this will be nothing but a berm of rocks around frontierland, with a small creek and a lot of different small trees here and there, maybe some geysers, with nothing more to do than the cars rally in the middle of and or on the backside of it and that's it. And the view from Liberty Square is what, just more of the rock formations and maybe some tall peaks closing in the area? (Going to be an extra hot park without that river) See they are plopping something down in the middle where nothing around it fits now except for maybe the jamboree and on around. The mansion is still unknown, it’s all creating a mish mash, all they have shown us is a silly cartoon map. Thats not convincing. I want to see something convincing, all I have heard about in the interviews they have done are rock designs, and seen a kindergarten style map.

It’s not a full land so yes it’s only 1 or 2 attractions in the middle. However, I think Imagineers are going to be careful about what they put around the outside edges. I don’t doubt that Thunder, Mansion, Tiana, Country Bears will all have something themed similarly to their area.

 

[phillip9698]

The more and more I read the hyper negative feedback on this closure and see who it’s coming from the more I’m convinced the majority of the angst is driven by locals.

To them the MK is just their local Disneyland. The further it gets from being their Disneyland the more uncomfortable they become. Dont believe me? Just start to pay attention when you see possessive nouns getting used such as "this is OUR park".

The thought that if they want to visit Disneyland, they should actually travel to it like everyone else is just unfathomable.

Don’t tell me I don’t understand the importance of the river in that area and how it subconsciously affects people. I understand that point. I also understand how guests at the MK and their behavior differ from guests at Disneyland and how that river has far less of an impact at one park than the other. The absolute refusal to acknowledge that point by one side prevents any meaningful discourse to take hold.

This conversation has fallen so far in the dumps that we now have people saying this change reminds them of exposed steel coasters at other properties. A statement that couldn’t be pulled from anywhere other than a rear end.

 

[lazyboy97o]

Don’t tell me I don’t understand the importance of the river in that area and how it subconsciously affects people. I understand that point. I also understand how guests at the MK and their behavior differ from guests at Disneyland and how that river has far less of an impact at one park than the other. The absolute refusal to acknowledge that point by one side prevents any meaningful discourse to take hold.

You just contradicted yourself because you’re trying to paint people who dislike the change as nothing more than poorly adjusted people who cannot accept change, which isn’t exactly meaningful discourse.

 

[Smiley/OCD]

The more and more I read the hyper negative feedback on this closure and see who it’s coming from the more I’m convinced the majority of the angst is driven by locals.

To them the MK is just their local Disneyland. The further it gets from being their Disneyland the more uncomfortable they become.

The thought that if they want to visit Disneyland, they should actually travel to it like everyone else is just unfathomable.

Don’t tell me I don’t understand the importance of the river in that area and how it subconsciously affects people. I understand that point. I also understand how guests at the MK and their behavior differ from guests at Disneyland and how that river has far less of an impact at one park than the other. The absolute refusal to acknowledge that point by one side prevents any meaningful discourse to take hold.

This conversation has fallen so far in the dumps that we now have people saying this change reminds them of exposed steel coasters at other properties. A statement that couldn’t be pulled from anywhere other than a rear end.

Well, if you consider 1,060 miles local…ummmf…you got me.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

The more and more I read the hyper negative feedback on this closure and see who it’s coming from the more I’m convinced the majority of the angst is driven by locals.

Are you a local? Do you visit both coasts regularly?

I’m not a local and I have both an AP and a Magic Key and was premier almost every year it was offered (I skipped one in the middle! Haha)

 

[AidenRodriguez731]

Yeah

“A”for effort on that response - a snack/quick service location that no one can get to without waiting 15 minutes to ride a raft there - And what do you mean things that could have “kept” the island popular? When was that ? Was it anytime after the internet was born ?

TSI island was dead for a long time, there is literally nothing that they could add to it that would make it super popular and justify the space. I mean do people seriously think some new animatronics and "fun scenes" would it into a top tier attraction? They could build a free buffet out there and I still wouldn't bother.

 

[plutofan15]

Also… some folks on this board do have specialized knowledge that is relevant to the present conversation…

This is correct. And when some of those folks express their knowledge and it goes against the narrative of a number of people on this board, their knowledge is dismissed and ridiculed. I myself have been called a liar and an attention seeker here for sharing what I my know because some here cannot (not pointing fingers at you) accept what they are being told. And they are wrong in what they post.

 

[lazyboy97o]

TSI island was dead for a long time, there is literally nothing that they could add to it that would make it super popular and justify the space. I mean do people seriously think some new animatronics and "fun scenes" would it into a top tier attraction? They could build a free buffet out there and I still wouldn't bother.

This is rich from a guy who thinks Journey of Water drove visitation to Epcot.

 

[mlayton144]

The more and more I read the hyper negative feedback on this closure and see who it’s coming from the more I’m convinced the majority of the angst is driven by locals.

To them the MK is just their local Disneyland. The further it gets from being their Disneyland the more uncomfortable they become.

The thought that if they want to visit Disneyland, they should actually travel to it like everyone else is just unfathomable.

Don’t tell me I don’t understand the importance of the river in that area and how it subconsciously affects people. I understand that point. I also understand how guests at the MK and their behavior differ from guests at Disneyland and how that river has far less of an impact at one park than the other. The absolute refusal to acknowledge that point by one side prevents any meaningful discourse to take hold.

This conversation has fallen so far in the dumps that we now have people saying this change reminds them of exposed steel coasters at other properties. A statement that couldn’t be pulled from anywhere other than a rear end.

Very well stated , but I would add another segment that may be represented in that haters section - those that don’t even goto WDW aka not even customers

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

I would add another segment that may be represented in that haters section

How often do you visit?

Does not wanting the riverboat and muppets to close = hater?

 

[lazyboy97o]

Very well stated , but I would add another segment that may be represented in that haters section - those that don’t even goto WDW aka not even customers

So are you stalking people to know when they are visiting?

 

[mlayton144]

How often do you visit?

Does not wanting the riverboat and muppets to close = hater?

I go approx 1x per year. And I know I’m generalizing - but it’s hard to imagine some posters spending so much time posting 95-100% negative posts for something they continue spending money on. I think it’s a logical conclusion that aren’t even customers , but of course there are probably exceptions

 

[mlayton144]

So are you stalking people to know when they are visiting?

Really?

 

[lazyboy97o]

Really?

Yes, really. Unless you don’t actually know when people are visiting.

 

[EagleScout610]

How it feels checking this thread hoping for construction/demolition updates

 

[mlayton144]

Yes, really. Unless you don’t actually know when people are visiting.

I think it’s a pretty good guess , unless you can explain why some folks continually post how bad the parks are and continue spending their money on them