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Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

DisneyWarrior27

Well-Known Member
A bit late to this.

But people are wrong to doubt Hoppers.

That film will not fail, just because Elio failed, especially if people seem to responding to that film better than they did Elio in early test screenings to the point that they’ll see it in theaters.

What they need to do is just cut better trailers for original movies and find a way to make them appeal to people of all ages without hiding what it truly is.

Also, considering people seem to be more… attuned to animal movies, that’s why I think Hoppers and especially 2027’s Gatto will succeed where Elio failed.
 

BrianLo

Well-Known Member
2.5x has always been my standard for ALL movies regardless of who released it. Thanks for confirming it.

I think we all *mostly* agree with this. You are a believer of the metric system. 😂

There are rare times I'll make an educated argument for a 3X multiple, but that's when the blockbuster is an unusually low budget relative to its marketing (Stitch/Illumination). At 225 this blockbuster is not one of those.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
A bit late to this.

But people are wrong to doubt Hoppers.

That film will not fail, just because Elio failed, especially if people seem to responding to that film better than they did Elio in early test screenings to the point that they’ll see it in theaters.

What they need to do is just cut better trailers for original movies and find a way to make them appeal to people of all ages without hiding what it truly is.

Also, considering people seem to be more… attuned to animal movies, that’s why I think Hoppers and especially 2027’s Gatto will succeed where Elio failed.
More predictions sure to go “untrue”?
 

Animaniac93-98

Well-Known Member
The "controversy" is not impacting Superman's box office:

"Wait, weren’t some source expecting Superman to go hog wild after the $22M previews with a $140M-$150M opening? Is MAGA to blame? Is Gunn’s “immigrant” comments to blame? It’s my understanding, not at all, because the red county zones for this type of movie aren’t underperforming (more on this in the AM), rather they’re churning out the average amount of cash for a PG-13 family adventures movie. At $120M+, this is the ceiling for a standalone Superman movie when he’s not fighting Batman in the desolate remains of Gotham."

- Deadline
 

Nevermore525

Well-Known Member
Lilo & Stitch at $994M+ through Sunday. Should pass $1B this next week or so.

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Ghost93

Well-Known Member
He’s been kinda associated with “Merica” forever…so maybe the overseas pull would never be quite the same?
I think that's part of it. Even though nowadays Superman fights for Truth, Justice and a Better Tomorrow (instead of the American Way), I think many still view him as a symbol for America.

I also think DC has to rebuild its reputation after the collapse of the DCEU. So I would imagine it will take some time to rebuild faith in the DC brand.
 

Animaniac93-98

Well-Known Member
Stitch is now less than $10 million away from being the top grossing domestic release of 2025 to date

Disney currently has 2 other titles in the top 10. Captain America 4 (#6) and Thunderbolts (#8)

By the end of Summer, Thunderbolts will be out and Fantastic Four will be in. Captain America 4 may still be there.
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
Variety is claiming Superman had a marketing budget of $100 million. I don't believe it, but that's what they wrote. If true, you're looking at a $325-350 break even.
I think you mean break even of $650M-$700M, if you are using (Production Budget+Marketing) and doubling it, as studios only take approximately half of the box office, instead of using the standard 2.5x Production Budget that everyone else uses.
 

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