DHS Monster Inc Land Coming to Disney's Hollywood Studios

[Tha Realest]

I think a lot of current Imagineers grew up with this film

Probably true

and hold a lot of reverence for it

Maybe? But reverence suggests an unhealthy (and undue) appreciation for the franchise. Jason Reitman clearly revered the Ghostbusters source material and Harold Ramis - that doesn’t necessarily translate to a great product.

and will do it justice.

Very debatable. I have no doubt the Imagineers who created TBA loved PatF and the concept art they were handed for the planned D+ show. I’m sure the Imagineers who designed the new Villains show loved the notion of the villains. I’d be willing to bet the Imagineers who worked on the Starcruiser likewise loved The Last Jedi. But look what we got.

 

[TheMaxRebo]

I know this post is gonna de rail this chat but actually hope (even though Disney can't move a ride like a carnival) that they rip out star tours and rebuild Mike and Sully from DCA in the plot of land and retheme Coke stand to monsters

I wouldn't mind just returning Star Tours to Monsters and have the vehicles take you through randomized doors

Of the darknride I would prefer the Tokyo one

 

[Mr. Sullivan]

How are you gauging this?

Being out in the world and observing the engagement that these things get.

I’m Gen Z. Monsters Inc is the pinnacle of Disney for us. It is in our jokes, it is in our memes, it is an instantly recognizable cornerstone of our childhood. You would he hard pressed to find someone who grew up in the early 2000s and beyond who does not have familiarity with the franchise.

When this was announced, the posts on social media about it were receiving hundreds of thousands of likes when the other announcements just weren’t.

I have a Monsters Inc jacket I wear in the winter and without fail I get stopped and complimented on it multiple times.

The same doesn’t really happen with Stitch unless it is Stitch himself which is a behemoth of a cultural icon. But there is no meme culture (this may sound silly to mention but you gotta remember that this is a big way Gen Z engages with culture and it keeps things populae; see Spongebob for that), no dense familiarity with the jokes and concept and world outside of Ohana and Stitch himself.

I do not say this to downplay the power Stitch as a character has. He is massively popular and I would say he alone is what sold the new movie. But I do point out all of this to say that Gen Z is deeply familiar with all facets of Monsters Inc and it has stayed alive and so relevant because it has been adopted into our culture-speak. And as we get older and have kids, it becomes something we pass down which is why Monsters At Work turned out to get more success than most thought it could. Stitch hasn’t really gotten that beyond the character himself.

Disney is very clearly trying to target a new audience: Gen Z early 2000s kids who’re now old enough to take their own vacations with their own families, and that is why they are going all in on resurrecting things that matter to us.

Monsters Inc is to 2000s kids what The Lion King and Beauty and the Beast are to 90s kids.

 

[TheMaxRebo]

Ideally they would hire and keep better talent. Not sure if Kevin’s retirement was forced but I’ve always guessed it was.

I believe it was related when they were moving people to Orlando for the project that was then killed and he didn't want to move

 

[Mr. Sullivan]

Probably true

Maybe? But reverence suggests an unhealthy (and undue) appreciation for the franchise. Jason Reitman clearly revered the Ghostbusters source material and Harold Ramis - that doesn’t necessarily translate to a great product.

Very debatable. I have no doubt the Imagineers who created TBA loved PatF and the concept art they were handed for the planned D+ show. I’m sure the Imagineers who designed the new Villains show loved the notion of the villains. I’d be willing to bet the Imagineers who worked on the Starcruiser likewise loved The Last Jedi. But look what we got.

How is reverence unhealthy and undue? It’s no different than films like The Lion King or The Little Mermaid being loved and cherished by those who grew up with them. It’s a beloved piece of pop culture, and that creates the reverence I’m speaking of.

As for what else you’re mentioning, the only thing I agree with you on there is the Villains show. I think TBA is great, and I think Starcruiser was a really cool experience that was destroyed by Disney’s greed when it came to how they sold it to the public. I don’t put any fault of Starcruiser’s closing on the folks who created the experience.

 

[Casper Gutman]

I think it’s been explained at length by multiple folks now how popular and beloved Monsters Inc still is.

What metric are you using? The last film came out 12 years ago. We’re on Toy Story 5, Frozen 3 and 4, Incredibles 3 - why aren’t we anticipating a Monsters 3 from the company that will milk any franchise to death?

 

[Professortango1]

That’s very much an opinion, not a fact. Haha

I mean, I guess maybe some people think that MV3D was better than TTBAB, but I'm sure some people thinking that Fast and Furious is better than Jurassic Park doesn't change the facts.

MV3D was better than Philharmagic and Captain EO, but not as immersive and clever as HISTA nor TTBAB. It was great for when Disney developed the attraction in the early 90's, but it clearly was a very old fashioned approach to a 3D film at a theme park.

 

[AidenRodriguez731]

Being out in the world and observing the engagement that these things get.

I’m Gen Z. Monsters Inc is the pinnacle of Disney for us. It is in our jokes, it is in our memes, it is an instantly recognizable cornerstone of our childhood. You would he hard pressed to find someone who grew up in the early 2000s and beyond who does not have familiarity with the franchise.

When this was announced, the posts on social media about it were receiving hundreds of thousands of likes when the other announcements just weren’t.

I have a Monsters Inc jacket I wear in the winter and without fail I get stopped and complimented on it multiple times.

The same doesn’t really happen with Stitch unless it is Stitch himself which is a behemoth of a cultural icon. But there is no meme culture (this may sound silly to mention but you gotta remember that this is a big way Gen Z engages with culture and it keeps things populae; see Spongebob for that), no dense familiarity with the jokes and concept and world outside of Ohana and Stitch himself.

I do not say this to downplay the power Stitch as a character has. He is massively popular and I would say he alone is what sold the new movie. But I do point out all of this to say that Gen Z is deeply familiar with all facets of Monsters Inc and it has stayed alive and so relevant because it has been adopted into our culture-speak. And as we get older and have kids, it becomes something we pass down which is why Monsters At Work turned out to get more success than most thought it could. Stitch hasn’t really gotten that beyond the character himself.

Disney is very clearly trying to target a new audience: Gen Z early 2000s kids who’re now old enough to take their own vacations with their own families, and that is why they are going all in on resurrecting things that matter to us.

Monsters Inc is to 2000s kids what The Lion King and Beauty and the Beast are to 90s kids.

As another Gen Z, 100% agree on this. Monsters Inc still holds up VERY well to us (honestly I say it has far more staying power than even some very good 2D animated movies)

Things like the Rozz voice are super popular still in that kinda meme culture and they really dont need anything new monsters in order to continue the property. THAT is how you know a property can still stand. When it still has a cultural impact even with 10 years of it not actively being used.

 

[Casper Gutman]

Being out in the world and observing the engagement that these things get.

I’m Gen Z. Monsters Inc is the pinnacle of Disney for us. It is in our jokes, it is in our memes, it is an instantly recognizable cornerstone of our childhood. You would he hard pressed to find someone who grew up in the early 2000s and beyond who does not have familiarity with the franchise.

When this was announced, the posts on social media about it were receiving hundreds of thousands of likes when the other announcements just weren’t.

I have a Monsters Inc jacket I wear in the winter and without fail I get stopped and complimented on it multiple times.

The same doesn’t really happen with Stitch unless it is Stitch himself which is a behemoth of a cultural icon. But there is no meme culture (this may sound silly to mention but you gotta remember that this is a big way Gen Z engages with culture and it keeps things populae; see Spongebob for that), no dense familiarity with the jokes and concept and world outside of Ohana and Stitch himself.

I do not say this to downplay the power Stitch as a character has. He is massively popular and I would say he alone is what sold the new movie. But I do point out all of this to say that Gen Z is deeply familiar with all facets of Monsters Inc and it has stayed alive and so relevant because it has been adopted into our culture-speak. And as we get older and have kids, it becomes something we pass down which is why Monsters At Work turned out to get more success than most thought it could. Stitch hasn’t really gotten that beyond the character himself.

Disney is very clearly trying to target a new audience: Gen Z early 2000s kids who’re now old enough to take their own vacations with their own families, and that is why they are going all in on resurrecting things that matter to us.

Monsters Inc is to 2000s kids what The Lion King and Beauty and the Beast are to 90s kids.

I’m sorry, but none of this means anything beyond the fact that you, personally, really like Monsters. And that’s great. But none of this is actual evidence Monsters is any more resonant then Toy Story, Nemo, Incredibles, or any of the other Pixar classics.

 

[Agent H]

What metric are you using? The last film came out 12 years ago. We’re on Toy Story 5, Frozen 3 and 4, Incredibles 3 - why aren’t we anticipating a Monsters 3 from the company that will milk any franchise to death?

They decided to make the Disney plus show monsters at work which essentially functions as monsters inc 3.

 

[Casper Gutman]

I mean, I guess maybe some people think that MV3D was better than TTBAB, but I'm sure some people thinking that Fast and Furious is better than Jurassic Park doesn't change the facts.

MV3D was better than Philharmagic and Captain EO, but not as immersive and clever as HISTA nor TTBAB. It was great for when Disney developed the attraction in the early 90's, but it clearly was a very old fashioned approach to a 3D film at a theme park.

This is genuinely nuts.

Also… Jurassic as the benchmark of “great movie?” It’s good, but come on.

 

[Jedi14]

What metric are you using? The last film came out 12 years ago. We’re on Toy Story 5, Frozen 3 and 4, Incredibles 3 - why aren’t we anticipating a Monsters 3 from the company that will milk any franchise to death?

There was a show four years ago.

 

[Architectural Guinea Pig]

What metric are you using? The last film came out 12 years ago. We’re on Toy Story 5, Frozen 3 and 4, Incredibles 3 - why aren’t we anticipating a Monsters 3 from the company that will milk any franchise to death?

Almost as if a well received two season show didn’t exist last year…

 

[Casper Gutman]

They decided to make the Disney plus show monsters at work which essentially functions as monsters inc 3.

It doesn’t. It functions as a TV spin-off that made very little cultural impression.

 

[AidenRodriguez731]

I’m sorry, but none of this means anything beyond the fact that you, personally, really like Monsters. And that’s great. But none of this is actual evidence Monsters is any more resonant then Toy Story, Nemo, Incredibles, or any of the other Pixar classics.

I also see what they say all the time. But I'm also not going to pretend like its the most popular franchise of all time. Notice how the 3 movies you said already have a somewhat meaningful prescence in the parks though.

 

[Casper Gutman]

Almost as if a well received two season show didn’t exist last year…View attachment 863959

Guys, D+ IP content does not mean very much at all.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

I mean, I guess maybe some people think that MV3D was better than TTBAB, but I'm sure some people thinking that Fast and Furious is better than Jurassic Park doesn't change the facts.

We are not talking about “facts” - these are opinions.

I completely agree tough to be a bug is a great 3d show.

 

[Casper Gutman]

We are not talking about “facts” - these are opinions.

I completely agree tough to be a bug is a great 3d show.

It was a good show, but to compare it to Muppets in terms of writing, characterization, tech - it’s madness.

 

[AidenRodriguez731]

Guys, D+ IP content does not mean very much at all.

well clearly it does. Muppets got a D+ show, they get a ride retheme that was presented as part of the show package. Monsters Inc gets a show, boom ride. Tiana's was gonna get a show, boom ride themed around the show.

 

[Professortango1]

This is genuinely nuts.

Also… Jurassic as the benchmark of “great movie?” It’s good, but come on.

I don't know how you can argue that Muppets was more immersive than TTBAB. Muppets was an old school 3D film where you are watching a film with close ups and not meant to be in the same space as the characters in the film, not mention all of the in-theatre effects and animatronics that interacted with the experience with TTBAB. It simply did more on that immersive modern 3D film front.

And Jurassic Park is a classic that still holds up. I never claimed it was the greatest film of all time, but it is a fun crowd pleaser full of great effects, laughs, and scares. Just like TTBAB.