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Disney Irish

Disney Irish

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Sirwalterraleigh said:
Oh right

I wasn’t commenting on the Hamill part…I agree he shouldn’t be back at this point. It’s the other stuff that is beyond stupid. That movie would be boycotted if ever made…which I highly doubt it would be
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So you still don't think the new Rey film will be made? We'll see.... But I hope it does because I'd like to see where the next chapter can take us. As divisive as it may be I think moving the story forward is the best course of action at this point. Stop trying to go backwards and living in the past, just move on.
 
Sirwalterraleigh

Sirwalterraleigh

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Disney Irish said:
So you still don't think the new Rey film will be made? We'll see.... But I hope it does because I'd like to see where the next chapter can take us. As divisive as it may be I think moving the story forward is the best course of action at this point. Stop trying to go backwards and living in the past, just move on.
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It’s the definition of insanity time…

More plausible than the “Rian Johnson trilogy”…but not a whole lot more.

The thud would be epic.

It’s Star Wars…screw up and suffer the consequences…you’re like the LAST person on the planet I think who doesn’t acknowledge this…even if you don’t personally agree with the content quality - which is fine
 
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Disney Irish

Disney Irish

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Sirwalterraleigh said:
It’s the definition of insanity time…

More plausible than the “Rian Johnson trilogy”…but not a whole lot more.

The thud would be epic.

It’s Star Wars…screw up and suffer the consequences…you’re like the LAST person on the planet I think who doesn’t acknowledge this…even if you don’t personally agree with the content quality - which is fine
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You know the line between insanity and genius is razor thin my friend.... ;)

Anyways, I think we're way past this "Star Wars is an untouchable special franchise that must be handled with care" talking point that you trot out every couple months whenever there is an update on the future. Quality discussions aside, Disney has basically turned Star Wars for good or bad into an everyday franchise that is wider reaching then the "nerds" it used to be associated with for many decades. And I say that with the upmost respect as being one of those "nerds".

On the quality discussion, I think as long as the stories are told with quality in mind the content of that story or the characters in it are less important. And I believe that can be done by Disney in the Star Wars universe, Andor just showed us that for two seasons. So as long as the writers are up to the task I think it can be done even with Rey as the central figure in this new chapter.
 
brideck

brideck

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I'm still holding out for Donald Glover's Lando. I just hope it doesn't lean into the '80s book trilogy particularly much for inspiration, as that stuff is... well... not great.
 
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easyrowrdw

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brideck said:
Isn't it The Force Awakens that really set this up as an impossibility, though? The Luke in hiding thing is the central MacGuffin of that whole movie, and is pretty at odds with a Jedi Master proudly training a new generation. After all, there aren't any new, younger Jedi seen in that movie at all... outside of Kylo Ren.
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Not only is it set up in Force Awakens, it was in Lucas’s original plans for the sequels. Lucas isn’t infallible of course, but he’s still the creator of everything. The Last Jedi isn’t out of step with Star Wars; it’s just not what a lot of fans wanted.
 
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Hawkeye_2018

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easyrowrdw said:
Not only is it set up in Force Awakens, it was in Lucas’s original plans for the sequels. Lucas isn’t infallible of course, but he’s still the creator of everything. The Last Jedi isn’t out of step with Star Wars; it’s just not what a lot of fans wanted.
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The ST does have a lot of similarities to what GL's plans were. I do think GL certainly would have had bigger plans for Luke in Ep7 than the 2 seconds we got though.
 
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MoonRakerSCM

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Quality discussions aside, Disney has basically turned Star Wars for good or bad into an everyday franchise that is wider reaching then the "nerds" it used to be associated with for many decades. And I say that with the upmost respect as being one of those "nerds".
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I'd argue the complete opposite.

Ask general public about Darth Vader, to provide a quote from him. Ask about Jar Jar, Luke... they'll know something. Ask about the death star.

Ask them to provide a quote from or scene about Finn... let alone anything from Disney+ other than cute baby yoda... yeah, you wont get much. Ask about the fleet from ep 9... yeah, nuttin.

Aside from Baby yoda, Disney has crushed the saga from the world wide phenomena to something losers argue about online and little else. The last few episodes of Andor were great, but the general public has shyed away from star wars due to Disney.
 
erasure fan1

erasure fan1

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Disney Irish said:
So you still don't think the new Rey film will be made? We'll see.... But I hope it does because I'd like to see where the next chapter can take us. As divisive as it may be I think moving the story forward is the best course of action at this point. Stop trying to go backwards and living in the past, just move on.
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I agree with you if by backwards, you mean not Skywalker timeline. The best way forward, in my opinion, is to separate. By that I mean, go back or forward, it just needs to not rely on the Skywalker saga.

A Rey film isn't a great idea because half the audience isn't going to care most likely. And I really don't think that would be moving forward anyway. Now if you jump 500yrs forward, you can start truly fresh. Or you can go back to knights of the old Republic. The key is not tying the overall story to what's been done. Keep the rules of the universe. Things like Alderaan can't blow up in the past, or be there in the future.... Stuff like that. Other than that you're good, you just need a quality story.

Now is it too late for a lot of people to care? That's yet to be determined. Mando and Grogu will be a fairly good barometer me thinks.
 
Screamface

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Hawkeye_2018 said:
I honestly think an apology from KK on how the ST turned out would do wonders to lessen the negativity from a large chunk of the fanbase
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She'll never reverse on the approach of blaming the audience for not liking what they delivered. The entitled Ayn Rand nature of how her and her allies have run things.
 
Disney Irish

Disney Irish

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erasure fan1 said:
I agree with you if by backwards, you mean not Skywalker timeline. The best way forward, in my opinion, is to separate. By that I mean, go back or forward, it just needs to not rely on the Skywalker saga.

A Rey film isn't a great idea because half the audience isn't going to care most likely. And I really don't think that would be moving forward anyway. Now if you jump 500yrs forward, you can start truly fresh. Or you can go back to knights of the old Republic. The key is not tying the overall story to what's been done. Keep the rules of the universe. Things like Alderaan can't blow up in the past, or be there in the future.... Stuff like that. Other than that you're good, you just need a quality story.

Now is it too late for a lot of people to care? That's yet to be determined. Mando and Grogu will be a fairly good barometer me thinks.
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I think if the story is good, even the half that you claim doesn’t care will still show up for a Rey story. Because just like everything quality wins out every time.
 
Phroobar

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Hawkeye_2018 said:
ill take that bet
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Disney Irish

Disney Irish

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Phroobar said:
I predict Spaceballs 2 will have higher views for Amazon than ANY Disney+ Star Wars show including Andor.
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Given that its releasing in theaters first, I doubt that.

In general separate from any SW show, Bluey on D+ tends to kick the s**t out of movies, especially movies previously released in theaters. And I don't see that changing in the next 2 years, especially since a Bluey movie will be released around the same time.

So my bet is that the Bluey movie will get more views than Spaceballs 2 when both land on their respective services.
 

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