MK Cars-Themed Attractions at Magic Kingdom

[Gusey]

I've had the day to think about this, and here are my rambling thoughts:

1. People really are twisting themselves up trying to defend this. But can anyone say it wouldn't be better if they had expanded the park? @Mr. Sullivan you're a reasonable fellow, can you answer this? Wouldn't it be better if they built both of these expansions outside the footprint of the park? Why can't it be this way?

I've always been a defender of this project, because I believe it will be a better use of space than RoA and TSI. Currently, the only reason I visit Frontierland is BTM and TBA, and then I use Frontierland as a walkway to Haunted Mansion. The Cars attractions, and later Villains, will give me a reason to bother staying in this section of the park. In terms of why the replacement is better than expansion, I go back to the original question from before Cars was announced and we knew something was going Beyond Big Thunder: How would we actually be able to access the piece of land? By removing RoA and TSI, they're able to make multiple new pathways connecting BTM, Villains and HM to each other, and giving us 2 attractions in the space that more people will actually experience. Cars on its own may not be a net gain, but it is also not a net loss.

 

[Gusey]

Which was my point. It's highlighting the "play area" which isn't terminology I would use for a kiddie ride.

I'm curious why people keep saying, "attractions". There is only one announced, thus far, with a phase 2 "family friendly attraction" "to be announced later".

Reiterating what the media have been told about the 2nd attraction:
"The Ranger Headquarters building will serve as the queue for the attraction" If its just a play area, why would it have a queue? Surely it will be more than that, either a ride or a show, more likely a ride

 

[mergatroid]

Well it looks a lot better than I thought it would originally.

 

[Brer Panther]

Bob Iger hates dinosaurs?

Is the 'no dinosaur mandate' the new 'IP mandate'?

It was supposed to be a joke about how Disney replaced Universe of Energy and scrapped all those dinosaur animatronics, and is now going to get rid of Dinoland and presumably scrap all THOSE dinosaur animatronics too.

 

[ToTBellHop]

Reiterating what the media have been told about the 2nd attraction:
"The Ranger Headquarters building will serve as the queue for the attraction" If its just a play area, why would it have a queue? Surely it will be more than that, either a ride or a show, more likely a ride

Watch them plop down TriceraTop Spin in that paddock! But, like… car triceratops.

 

[John park hopper]

RoA gone =SAD

 

[Ichabod Crane]

Reiterating what the media have been told about the 2nd attraction:
"The Ranger Headquarters building will serve as the queue for the attraction" If its just a play area, why would it have a queue? Surely it will be more than that, either a ride or a show, more likely a ride

Yeah I didn’t realize there was debate on this but it’s been rumored and assumed that this other attraction would be a flat ride for quite some time now (you can see how easy it would be to stick a flat ride inside that circular fence in the art) and you don’t need a queue for a play area or anything like that.

My guess is they kept it ambiguous because they haven’t decided what type of flat they want to put there yet.

 

[Figments Friend]

Willing to bet the flat ride will be a clone of ‘Mater’s Junkyard Jamboree’ from DCA, themed slightly to make it ‘fit’ into the National Park setting.

Willing to bet money on that.
( Disney Dollars excepted )

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[lazyboy97o]

I think it needs to be connected for mosquito control, right? I recently watched a great video about how they got rid of the mosquitoes at WDW in the 1960s by digging canals and creating a massive drainage system.

They’re building new ponds elsewhere to replace the water holding capacity of the Rivers of America. Those drawings have been published.

Mosquitos like stagnant water. A water feature in a park is going to circulate water so it won’t be stagnate. The springs of Disney Springs aren’t part of the water management system and aren’t a mosquito breeding ground.

 

[WorldExplorer]

Again, time will tell. But, the grasping at straws for the theme of these lands is getting almost laughable at this point.

I'm tired of having my intelligence insulted with this crap.

"'Imagined animals' was always supposed to mean stuff we made up a decade ago! It's exactly the same as mythical beings that've been part of human culture for thousands of years!"

No it didn't and no it isn't.

"Look at this concept art; ignore the huge group of humans that're dead center and clearly the focus of it, there's some animals on the edges so this'll be perfect for Animal Kingdom! And we're making a ride about Indiana Jones, but the antagonist is a god monster, so it counts!"

No, having animals technically around was never the point; I am not five years old, I understand the word "focus".

"Guardians of the Galaxy has nothing to do with Epcot? It's okay! It's not a meaningless rollercoaster, it's a meaningless fake alien pavilion! And Peter Quill visited it as a kid!"


No, that does absolutely nothing to make it better!

"We're covering the Cars ride in Frontierland in a giant pile of leaves! That makes it okay!"

NO IT DOESN'T.

On and on. None of this crap makes anything better.

It's like Pixar trying to convince you that Buzz and Woody are actually from the same series. So they write a pamphlet on how no one ever said Buzz Lightyear's franchise took place in the future, it's just the obvious conclusion any rational human being would come to but no one SAID IT, so actually he was around in western times but up in space since no one said it couldn't be a scifi western, and he's not in the Woody's Roundup intro because that was a special episode with a special intro, and actually Buzz isn't new the specific character just had a resurgence but Woody and Jessie didn't, and that's why this Buzz is a newer toy but there are older Buzzes we just haven't seen and on and on with the bull crud you know isn't true and no sane person would have argued for the past thirty years. It's just obnoxious.

 

[ToTBellHop]

They’re building new ponds elsewhere to replace the water holding capacity of the Rivers of America. Those drawings have been published.

Mosquitos like stagnant water. A water feature in a park is going to circulate water so it won’t be stagnate. The springs of Disney Springs aren’t part of the water management system and aren’t a mosquito breeding ground.

Yes, but the current MK waterways circulate throughout. I’m curious how they’ll keep the water in front of the Castle circulating, for example.

As to attraction 2, I really hope it’s not another spinner. There are so many flat tide options. They need to branch out.

 

[KDM31091]

I too am tired of the grasping at straws and gigantic leaps in order to justify an attraction fitting where it does not. It seems today's Disney doesn't really care and it's why the parks are all becoming the same. You could just as easily argue the Cars ride makes sense in DHS because it's based on a movie IP, for example. They would try to find a way to justify it existing in Animal Kingdom at this point, it feels like. It does make me sad to see the parks all kind of become the same hodgepodge of IPs with a very weak attempt to tie them together.

I'm not really upset at the marketing people who write the stuff because it's not their decision per se, they are just coming up with the best way to spin it. I am upset that execs don't think making things truly make sense matters anymore.

 

[Gusey]

There are quite a lot of car themed flat rides out there, including spinners. It could be a tracked car ride through a nature scene (almost like Tiker Bell at Fantasy Springs wihout the spinning) or even a Car School attraction like they have at Legoland designed only for children and to pave the way for the removal of Tomorrowland Speedway at some point after Villains

 

[ᗩLᘿᑕ ֊ᗩζᗩᗰ]

Given the locale why would they not make the second attraction the Cars-adjacent IP, a Planes attraction since it takes place in Piston Peak?

 

[ToTBellHop]

Given the locale why would they not make the second attraction the Cars-adjacent IP, a Planes attraction since it takes place in Piston Peak?

We don’t speak of Planes. There’s no Dane Cook in MK and that’s already too much Dane Cook.

 

[lazyboy97o]

Yes, but the current MK waterways circulate throughout. I’m curious how they’ll keep the water in front of the Castle circulating, for example.

That’s Disneyland, not Magic Kingdom. At Magic Kingdom the Rivers of America are connected to the larger water management system. The castle moat is connected to the Jungle Cruise but not the wider water management system. It has always been separate.

 

[ᗩLᘿᑕ ֊ᗩζᗩᗰ]

Eh, Planes would have been fine.

Never did care for the idea of a second Cars attraction anyway. Would have been just as happy or happier had it been a Gravity Falls something, or a relocated Wilderness Explorers or a Goofy Movie Meet and Greet with Max, Goofy and Bigfoot.

Seems a shame to dedicate all that space for a single IP anyway but Disney's gonna Dis here. I am glad they still mention a second attraction however.

Still, a Planes attraction makes too much sense. Maybe it'll be a show.

 

[SamusAranX]

I too am tired of the grasping at straws and gigantic leaps in order to justify an attraction fitting where it does not. It seems today's Disney doesn't really care and it's why the parks are all becoming the same. You could just as easily argue the Cars ride makes sense in DHS because it's based on a movie IP, for example. They would try to find a way to justify it existing in Animal Kingdom at this point, it feels like. It does make me sad to see the parks all kind of become the same hodgepodge of IPs with a very weak attempt to tie them together.

I'm not really upset at the marketing people who write the stuff because it's not their decision per se, they are just coming up with the best way to spin it. I am upset that execs don't think making things truly make sense matters anymore.

There’s animals in national parks, of course it would fit in AK

 

[ToTBellHop]

That’s Disneyland, not Magic Kingdom. At Magic Kingdom the Rivers of America are connected to the larger water management system. The castle moat is connected to the Jungle Cruise but not the wider water management system. It has always been separate.

Ah, my mistake. Carry on!

 

[Bocabear]

Hopefully not a show...and they won't count a meet and greet as an attraction....If we are losing the central core of the park, it should be for more then one attraction with a vague possibility of a second attraction and a phase 2 Villains land that will also maybe have a secondary attraction at least in the blue sky phase.... At the point they are actually beginning earth moving and construction in a month, they should at this moment have finalized plans on most all of this... They know what is going to be built before the dirt starts moving.... They are choosing not to release the details until they are farther along... maybe to keep people interested....maybe because they know it is not that impressive... Maybe because cost overruns could hobble the phase two projects... Someone knows....