DHS MuppetVision 3-D's Future: Potential Disney Park Venues and Vision Pro Immersive Experience

TrainsOfDisney

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Recognizable? Sure. But their popularity have substantially waned from where it was a few decades ago. They don’t carry the same cache they once did, as evidenced by the box office performance and TV series cancellations.
So what characters have better “cultural penetration”? I define success as long term success - when was the last Mickey Mouse movie? Fantasia correct?
 

Chef idea Mickey`=

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For as tired as some people are of the nostalgic posters, I'm far more tired of those who disdain nostalgia and pass off monumental theme park alterations as "Things change." They could demolish Spaceship Earth, too. Would that just be "things change" too?

In the Muppets' case, this is something that definitely shouldn't be changing. It's Jim Henson's final project. Leave it alone, for heaven's sake. We're not gaining anything from this stupid Monsters show no one asked for. We're just losing a piece of Henson's legacy, and that is appalling to me.
A Monster's Inc for WDW is so long overdue, and even if the land is more so for the Door Coaster, why not just have the coaster and land take half and let another half be Muppets.
 

Charlie The Chatbox Ghost

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I can get behind the concept of things change when there is a necessity for it. There is so much underutilized space at Studios (and all the parks). Closing a beloved attraction (and one that could easily be sectioned off from the new area) seems unnecessary. That's where this is highly frustrating and seems beyond the traditional "things change" argument.
The only reason they’re closing Muppets is because they don’t want to have to build new brick buildings for Monstropolis. That’s it. They could have so much more space in the Animation Courtyard, but that would require building new buildings instead of just retrofitting old ones, and Disney wants to spend as little as possible.

What’re the odds the economic difficulties on the horizon cause Monstropolis to be downscaled or even cancelled, and we lost the Muppets for nothing?
 

Charlie The Chatbox Ghost

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You mean the last animated feature movie Walt Disney worked on - the one that doesn't have a namesake attraction or adequate IP representation in all of Walt Disney World or Disneyland?

Yeah, weird isn't it.
To be fair, Walt barely worked on the last few films he “worked” on. He was much more interested in the parks, and mainly just approved things for the films. I think the last one he truly worked on was Sleeping Beauty
 

TheMaxRebo

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The only reason they’re closing Muppets is because they don’t want to have to build new brick buildings for Monstropolis. That’s it. They could have so much more space in the Animation Courtyard, but that would require building new buildings instead of just retrofitting old ones, and Disney wants to spend as little as possible.

What’re the odds the economic difficulties on the horizon cause Monstropolis to be downscaled or even cancelled, and we lost the Muppets for nothing?

maybe being too optimistic but I do think they may have larger plans for Animation Courtyard and this is a quicker win for DHS than what it will take for the work at AC (moving people currently in the office building there, etc)

I think Monstopilis will happen as planed, and if there are a change or delay of plans it is to what will eventually happen to AC
 

Charlie The Chatbox Ghost

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maybe being too optimistic but I do think they may have larger plans for Animation Courtyard and this is a quicker win for DHS than what it will take for the work at AC (moving people currently in the office building there, etc)

I think Monstopilis will happen as planed, and if there are a change or delay of plans it is to what will eventually happen to AC
Hopefully. If I were to guess, AC will be Zootopia, Moana, or some future IP we haven’t seen yet that’ll be the new Frozen/Moana.
 

Charlie The Chatbox Ghost

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Why Disney's breakout hit, Wish of course! The Kingdom of Rosas nestles perfectly between Tower of Terror and Little Mermaid. /s
Are they gonna AI generate the ideas for the land too? It’d match the script and the music…

(I know that’s an unconfirmed rumor but Iger did recently say they’ve already used AI for past films, and given Wish’s timing and mid-ness…. )
 

aladdin2007

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The only reason they’re closing Muppets is because they don’t want to have to build new brick buildings for Monstropolis. That’s it. They could have so much more space in the Animation Courtyard, but that would require building new buildings instead of just retrofitting old ones, and Disney wants to spend as little as possible.

What’re the odds the economic difficulties on the horizon cause Monstropolis to be downscaled or even cancelled, and we lost the Muppets for nothing?
Mama Melroses still closes on the 10th so I guess not. Muppets closes in June right? Why is Melroses closing so early and not along with it at the same time? They are the same area.
 

TrainsOfDisney

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Supposedly muppets is closing early to save money. Operations doesn’t want to staff muppets, mermaid, and Villians. Too much $$$ for a struggling operation like Disney parks.

Mama Melrose will most likely be in the active construction area and it needs to close.
 

DreamfinderGuy

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It would be a colossal fail if Muppetvision 3D is put on a $5k headset (that was basically DOA to begin with, since AR has just never really taken off) that could never replicate the original experience of the show. The removal of Muppetvision 3D is the final nail in the coffin to MGM studios to me, even though there's Tower of Terror, virtually anything that made MGM "MGM" is gone now.
AVP is on its first generation, and the company has made it clear that their market for it right now is techies with cash to blow and developers. It's not a mass market device, but they want it to be. It will get cheaper and more readily available in time, and not a bad option to host MV3D on. It would be better than just throwing the film on Disney+, and certainly better than nothing.
Anyone else hate that these movies exist?
No, and it's honestly kind of weird that some people do. You can not like the concept (it's tired and I'm sure the movie itself is not good) but I'm very happy that Mickey is now in the hands of people who can do whatever they want with him. By that nature I also have to be cool with bad Mickey horror movies existing.
 

TheMaxRebo

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Mama Melroses still closes on the 10th so I guess not. Muppets closes in June right? Why is Melroses closing so early and not along with it at the same time? They are the same area.

we don't know for sure but it is very close to the back where the work for the new show building for the door coaster will be so makes sense to close that earlier if they start work on that and keep Muppet*Vision open longer - though I do wonder if they will have to reroute people when they exit the theater as that is right by entrance to Mama Melrose
 

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