TP2000
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Fascinating. "Inflatable dams" to hold back the water and then release it during winter storms.
What could go wrong?!?
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Fascinating. "Inflatable dams" to hold back the water and then release it during winter storms.
What could go wrong?!?
Disney Vault
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These are already used in other area and work very well. The first one I ever saw was for tempe town lake in ArizonaFascinating. "Inflatable dams" to hold back the water and then release it during winter storms.
What could go wrong?!?
So like @AJFireman showed above, basically a swimming pool? Just don't look up- or downstream to ruin the illusion? unless they put up big screens...
lazyboy97o
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Ideally de-channelization would be a larger, ongoing process.
AB48
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Honestly, how can we not be eternally grateful for your fantastic permit thread and sleuthing abilities?!
They've got plans, that's not in question. It's just the photos and images and all the work so far on that site is just for the city-funded parking structures that the Samueli's finally worked out with the City of Anaheim to get done. Finally.
As I understood it, the first phase of actual public amenities and retail will be tucked under and alongside the western bank of parking structures being built now along the Orange Freeway. That's mostly what they call the "Market Hall", which will plug in to the eastern flank of that long parking structure.
This photo that @Jiggsawpuzzle35 posted above, is the second parking structure being built on the eastern side of the Honda Center along the riverbed. I don't believe it has any retail/dining planned for it.
In short, the Market Hall could be their first actual offering for the public at OCVibe besides the city owned parking structures now under construction. It would basically be a food hall with some restaurants and bars, probably a Ducks and Angels merchandise store, etc. It would need to get going fast in '25 to make it by the '26-27 Ducks season. It could make it by the Spring '27 Angels season.
But the vast bulk of the OC Vibe complex; the 20 story hotels and apartment blocks, the 5,000 seat concert venue, the 2,000 seat stage theater, the new version of the Golden Bear music venue, the Woonerf and parks, etc. are all still only an AI created fever dream of clip art. Nothing has begun construction.
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Found these permits from a couple months back in early November, issued for the construction of the east parking structure and the 5,000 seat concert venue.
chadwpalm
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Probably nothing given that the Santa Ana River already has two inflatable dams upstream that have been there for 30 years.Fascinating. "Inflatable dams" to hold back the water and then release it during winter storms.
What could go wrong?!?
They divert the water from the river into all of the basins that are adjacent to the river (indicated by my arrows) for water infiltration into the ground to replenish the ground water. That's why the river south of that near the Honda center is dried up most of the year. From what I understand, just enough water is released from the Prado Dam to keep these basins filled to replenish the ground water and in heavy rain seasons water is allowed downstream (temporary deflation of the dams) to prevent overfill and flooding.
If the swimming pool was a mile and a half long, sure. As someone earlier in the thread pointed out, it will be like Tempe Town Lake, just not as wide or long. In fact, the engineering study found on the website I linked uses that as one of the examples.
There are two proposed locations for the downstream inflatable dams. They are indicated by the #8 in the photo below.
The plan is to allow additional water to be released from Prado Dam (as well as other creek and storm drain inlets during rain season) to fill up the areas along the riverwalk that will also act as additional infiltration into the ground water system. It will essentially be another ground water basin.
It won't just be a small swimming pool like @AJFireman showed, but a nearly 2-mile long lake with clean water capable of supporting recreational activities like kayaking and swimming. I think the proposal stated no motorboats.
If people are curious about the details of this project, it's all detailed here: https://ocriverwalk.com/wp-content/...gineering-Feasibility-Study-Report_lowres.pdf
MoonRakerSCM
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They're making this like the waterfront in Tempe. The inflatable dams work pretty well when you have actually clean water. I've seen them used for stormwater recharge gallery collection in our signature square shaped washes where the untreated water sits and gets stagnant//nasty but with good water and proper movement, these ponds should be fine.
As stated from further up in Anaheim-
The advantage of these things is they're built to overtop so even if they fail to deflate during major storms, they just become a cascade (note the concrete area to the right in the photo to compensate for high energy water to prevent scour).
As stated from further up in Anaheim-
The advantage of these things is they're built to overtop so even if they fail to deflate during major storms, they just become a cascade (note the concrete area to the right in the photo to compensate for high energy water to prevent scour).
TP2000
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I actually used to live within that aerial image above, in northeast Villa Park. I knew that OC had that massive system of retention and drainage ponds feeding the aquifer from Anaheim Hills to Anaheim Stadium, but I had no idea it involved "inflatable dams"! Thank you for the explanation.
Somehow, when I thought of "inflatable dam" my mind went to something like an air compressor hooked up to a long string of Water Wings that children use in the pool.
DLR92
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This should also help with storing water in needed times.
Looks like the parking structures on Douglas are about 75% done. They are jacking up our season tickets next year because parking is now included with each ticket. Every event to Honda center will include parking for everyone including your 4 year old kid. Construction has started on the 5,700 concert hall and food hall as well.
NobodyElse
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That seems like a lame way to handle things. It's certainly a fine way to shave away the advantages of car-pooling and public / alternate transportation.
For someone who has parked a short distance away for free for the past 20 seasons, this sucks because leaving a parking structure after an event will probably add another 30 minutes plus to my commute home.
AJFireman
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Today was announced that 2028 Olympic Volleyball competition will be held at the Arena in Anaheim (Honda Center) Interesting not using the sponsorship name because its not like they can cover it up. None of the venues had their sponsors listed.. So looks like they have a timeline for this OCVibe.
Official Announcement
https://la28.org/en/newsroom/la28-celebrates-updated-olympic-venue-plan.html
Condensed version
abc7.com
Official Announcement
https://la28.org/en/newsroom/la28-celebrates-updated-olympic-venue-plan.html
Condensed version
Dodger Stadium and Universal Studios Lot among venues selected for 2028 Olympics in LA
From baseball at Dodger Stadium to volleyball in Anaheim, LA28 has released its list of venues chosen for the 2028 Olympic Games.
abc7.com
NobodyElse
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Surfing at Trestles (I'm guessing Lowers) should be an adventure for spectators.
TP2000
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I thought the exact same thing when I heard that on the car radio a few days ago! That's a hike and a half. I did it about two or three times around 15 years ago when my nephews were surf rats, and I won't ever do it again.
As I remember, it involved staking out a semi-legal parking spot near a Carl's Jr. and then hiking about a mile down the hill between the freeway and the Marine base. On a badly maintained gravel path through sagebrush. That had a lot of trash and a distinct smell of funny cigarettes without filter tips (blame the surfers, not the Marines). And then after a few hours at a desolate beach without a single porta-potty, let alone a luxury like a snack bar or running water, you had to hike a mile back to the car, uphill, to see if you got a ticket from the City of San Clemente and/or the manager at Carl's Jr.
And they are going to get at least a few thousand Olympians, spectators and the NBC Sports Olympics HD News Rig down there in three years time?
I am very worried about the horrible state of greater Los Angeles and its 3rd world-like environs for the 2028 Olympics. But between the
And who the heck is in charge of this LA Olympics disaster in the making?! Is Peter Ueberoth (sp?) still alive?!?
Karen Bass, please call your office.
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NobodyElse
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I thought the exact same thing when I heard that on the car radio a few days ago! That's a hike and a half. I did it about two or three times around 15 years ago when my nephews were surf rats, and I won't ever do it again.
As I remember, it involved staking out a semi-legal parking spot near a Carl's Jr. and then hiking about a mile down the hill between the freeway and the Marine base. On a badly maintained gravel path through sagebrush. That had a lot of trash and a distinct smell of funny cigarettes without filter tips (blame the surfers, not the Marines). And then after a few hours at a desolate beach without a single porta-potty, let alone a luxury like a snack bar or running water, you had to hike a mile back to the car, uphill, to see if you got a ticket from the City of San Clemente and/or the manager at Carl's Jr.
And they are going to get at least a few thousand Olympians, spectators and the NBC Sports Olympics HD News Rig down there in three years time?
I am very worried about the horrible state of greater Los Angeles and its 3rd world-like environs for the 2028 Olympics. But between theHonda CenterArena At Anaheim and Trestles, I'm not that confident in OC being able to pull it off on the world stage either. YIKES!
And who the heck is in charge of this LA Olympics disaster in the making?! Is Peter Ueberoth (sp?) still alive?!?
Karen Bass, please call your office.
To be fair, it is (or can be) one of the best surf spots in the region. Several contests have been held there for many years. There is dirt road access from the south via Basilone Rd, so they'll be able to set up scaffolds and stands, etc. It sounds like (like most venues) they won't allow spectators to drive there, so undoubtedly they'll set up shuttles form satellite lots (Maybe the outlet shops, or high school, etc.). Thinking outside the box, there seems to be plenty of flat space that could be used for parking across the freeway from San Onofre in Camp Pendleton, so that could be a creative option.
At least it's closer to the host city than Paris' location was.
NobodyElse
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Sorry for pulling things slightly off subject.
Now, back to Woonerf-Watch: 2025.
Now, back to Woonerf-Watch: 2025.
truecoat
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At least it's closer to the host city than Paris' location was.
Find out where the kayaking is taking place.
NobodyElse
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