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Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

BrianLo

BrianLo

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deadline.com

‘Snow White’, Poisoned By Controversy At Box Office, Won’t Have A Happy Ending With $115M Loss: What Went Wrong

'Snow White' from Disney is set to lose $115M after all ancillaries and bombing at the box office.
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Did we completely skip over this one? Deadline is projecting a 115M loss, which is way lighter than expected. Still a flop, not to mince words.

I’m slightly dubious (and that’s saying something). I don’t know why they are setting such high streaming rates. But I guess they figure more shelf life than The Marvels?

Also there’s our final cost figure. 410M (270M production).
 
Agent H

Agent H

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TP2000

TP2000

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Here's a quick update on Friday's domestic box office. The scale of a box office bomb like Snow White always makes me wonder what sort of contractual obligation the theater chains have with "Disney!", likely based on decades of solid performances. But for the past several years Disney has had more flops than blockbusters, and the theater chains must hate this sort of weekend!

They've got a video game movie pulling in $13,605 per theater on a Friday night, a Part 2 of an Easter movie about The Last Supper pulling in $1,226 per theater. And then there's Snow White, hogging up 3,750 mostly empty theaters and pulling in only $400 per theater.

This sort of junk from Disney must drive theater owners absolutely nuts! :mad:

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thenumbers.com

The Numbers - Daily Box Office Chart for Friday April 4, 2025

Daily Domestic Box Office Chart for Friday April 4, 2025
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Vegas Disney Fan

Vegas Disney Fan

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BrianLo said:
deadline.com

‘Snow White’, Poisoned By Controversy At Box Office, Won’t Have A Happy Ending With $115M Loss: What Went Wrong

'Snow White' from Disney is set to lose $115M after all ancillaries and bombing at the box office.
deadline.com deadline.com

Did we completely skip over this one? Deadline is projecting a 115M loss, which is way lighter than expected. Still a flop, not to mince words.

I’m slightly dubious (and that’s saying something). I don’t know why they are setting such high streaming rates. But I guess they figure more shelf life than The Marvels?

Also there’s our final cost figure. 410M (270M production).
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I saw this the other day but couldn’t make their numbers work, they say a $115 million loss after all ancillaries, which they then calculate as $295 million, that places the box office loss at $410 million, which makes no sense if the total cost was $410 million.

My theory is the $101 million in global film rentals was supposed to say $101 million in global film revenue (Disneys share), that would place the box office loss around $270 million (minus residuals) which could theoretically be possible but still seems a bit high. Their numbers just don’t make sense to me.
 
BrianLo

BrianLo

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Vegas Disney Fan said:
I saw this the other day but couldn’t make their numbers work, they say a $115 million loss after all ancillaries, which they then calculate as $295 million, that places the box office loss at $410 million, which makes no sense if the total cost was $410 million.

My theory is the $101 million in global film rentals was supposed to say $101 million in global film revenue (Disneys share), that would place the box office loss around $270 million (minus residuals) which could theoretically be possible but still seems a bit high. Their numbers just don’t make sense to me.
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I’m not sure if they edited it, but it’s 295 in revenue minus 410 in costs. Yes the 101 is part of revenue, but maybe the article was updated.
 
BrianLo

BrianLo

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TP2000 said:
Here's a quick update on Friday's domestic box office. The scale of a box office bomb like Snow White always makes me wonder what sort of contractual obligation the theater chains have with "Disney!", likely based on decades of solid performances. But for the past several years Disney has had more flops than blockbusters, and the theater chains must hate this sort of weekend!
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Whenever there are calls for some sort of impropriety on screen counts… what product exactly are they supposed to be shoving in there?

They are desperate for product, even if that product is Snow White.

Disney has had one out-and-out flop proceeded by a year with 4 relative hits and a bunch of soft break evens. 2023 is bad, but you are somewhat clinging to that to bring the average towards your point. Let’s see how 2025 continues to play before drawing up the obituary, the majority of us knew this one wasn’t destined for greatness. As I’ve said, we were actually quite overdue for a flop, the industry has always functioned this way in the tentpole environment.
 
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DKampy

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Casper Gutman said:
Gunn’s Superman is the new hate focus, at least for the moment. I don’t think the campaign will take off, but worth keeping an eye on.
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We have seen this happen before with a Gunn project in Peacemaker… it never took hold and was precisely drop and was barely mentioned again among the ragers
 
Phroobar

Phroobar

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In my local theaters, Snow White is being show 4 times a day with a total of 14 seats sold. While Minecraft is being shown every 15 minutes with an average of 75-80% of the seats sold this weekend. Minecraft should easily be able to make more money this weekend than Snow White did it's entire domestic run. I'm seeing Minecraft tonight.

My theater is also showing two showings of Steamboat. Horror movie with Steamboat Willy as the killer. It is similar to Mouse Trap and Pooh Blood & Honey movies. There are 10 seats sold between the two times. It was made by the company that makes the Terrifier movies.
 
Agent H

Agent H

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Phroobar said:
In my local theaters, Snow White is being show 4 times a day with a total of 14 seats sold. While Minecraft is being shown every 15 minutes with an average of 75-80% of the seats sold this weekend. Minecraft should easily be able to make more money this weekend than Snow White did it's entire domestic run. I'm seeing Minecraft tonight.

My theater is also showing two showings of Steamboat. Horror movie with Steamboat Willy as the killer. It is similar to Mouse Trap and Pooh Blood & Honey movies. There are 10 seats sold between the two times. It was made by the company that makes the Terrifier movies.
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How is Minecraft playing every 15 minutes? Are they showing let’s plays of the game instead of the actual movie?
 
Tony the Tigger

Tony the Tigger

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WorldExplorer said:
Disney Springs' AMC (on top of the huge amount of screenings in a variety of theater-types, including with Spanish captions) has an option to rent a theater for your group to watch Minecraft. Presumably, Snow White doesn't have this option because you're already going to have the theater to yourself for the normal ticket price.
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I know you’re making a joke, but my AMC had that option for Snow White when it was new, and also had that option for Minecraft today at 2 PM.
 
brideck

brideck

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Agent H said:
How is Minecraft playing every 15 minutes? Are they showing let’s plays of the game instead of the actual movie?
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Because it's on 5 or 6 screens at every theater with staggered start times. All of the big tentpoles or would-be tentpoles open this way these days. Start times can be even closer together with this one because it's not very long (101 min).
 
Disney Irish

Disney Irish

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Minecraft got a B+ Cinemascore, not good for a tentpole. Doesn’t bode well for its legs. So it’ll be interesting to watch this weekend and the weeks to come.

For those that care B+ is the same as Snow White got.
 
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DKampy

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brideck said:
Because it's on 5 or 6 screens at every theater with staggered start times.
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Use to be my local theater…. Thank goodness they only have Minecraft on 2 screens… lots of variety at my go to theater this weekend…I hope this trend continues…. I have argued you do not need that many… 2 is fine for a blockbuster especially when one is on their huge Ultra screen auditorium
 

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