Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

[brideck]

Exactly, it didn't need people who didn't play the game to go see it. Just like Minecraft. From 4 & 5yr olds to 45 & 50+, If it's entertaining, there's more than enough of a player base to succeed without non players going. It's not the popularity that will hold it back, it will be the quality of the movie, and that's not looking great.

From BOReport, it looks like they're getting all of the young men that made Minions: The Rise of Gru an inexplicable hit.

Demo Breakdown for A Minecraft Movie
Under 25 - 64%
Over 25 - 36%
Male - 62%
Female - 38%

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

I want to talk about the film's box office and will continue to do so.

I’m fascinated by this films box office also, partially because it’s underperformed all expectations but also because it’s kind of an anomaly, it started at a bizarre 50/50 Dom/Int split, then moved into a more traditional 40/60 split, now it’s back to 49/51.

There’s more questions than answers, was it the comments? was it a movie that never should have been remade? is the Int box office a pushback on current events?

We’ve been talking about “why” movies fail for years but this one isn’t so clear cut.

Most movies follow fairly established box office trends, this one is all over the place. I’m sure Disney itself is having similar conversations trying to figure out how it went so wrong.

 

[Stripes]

 

[Tha Realest]

I’ve been down on this project because I would have preferred the creative team behind Legacy got to continue their vision, and have a distaste for all things Leto, but this looks really good.

 

[Stripes]

I’ve been down on this project because I would have preferred the creative team behind Legacy got to continue their vision, and have a distaste for all things Leto, but this looks really good.

Legacy’s visuals and music were gorgeous. The film’s other aspects were passable to good, but nothing great.

It certainly seems the visuals and music will be excellent. Perhaps a new creative team will improve the aspects that were lacking in Legacy.

 

[BrianLo]

‘Snow White’, Poisoned By Controversy At Box Office, Won’t Have A Happy Ending With $115M Loss: What Went Wrong

'Snow White' from Disney is set to lose $115M after all ancillaries and bombing at the box office.

deadline.com

Did we completely skip over this one? Deadline is projecting a 115M loss, which is way lighter than expected. Still a flop, not to mince words.

I’m slightly dubious (and that’s saying something). I don’t know why they are setting such high streaming rates. But I guess they figure more shelf life than The Marvels?

Also there’s our final cost figure. 410M (270M production).

 

[Casper Gutman]

Gunn’s Superman is the new hate focus, at least for the moment. I don’t think the campaign will take off, but worth keeping an eye on.

 

[Phroobar]

Anyone seeing Minecraft today? It looks like it will be the biggest box office opening of the year.

Weekend predictions: Minecraft heading to monster opening - The Numbers

A Minecraft Movie will post the best weekend of 2025, easily topping Captain America: Brave New World’s $88.8 million, and looking very likely to

www.the-numbers.com

 

[Agent H]

Anyone seeing Minecraft today? It looks like it will be the biggest box office opening of the year.

Weekend predictions: Minecraft heading to monster opening - The Numbers

A Minecraft Movie will post the best weekend of 2025, easily topping Captain America: Brave New World’s $88.8 million, and looking very likely to

www.the-numbers.com

It’s not good but I think it will do very well because people love Minecraft apparently.

 

[FrontierSpirit]

 

[TP2000]

Here's a quick update on Friday's domestic box office. The scale of a box office bomb like Snow White always makes me wonder what sort of contractual obligation the theater chains have with "Disney!", likely based on decades of solid performances. But for the past several years Disney has had more flops than blockbusters, and the theater chains must hate this sort of weekend!

They've got a video game movie pulling in $13,605 per theater on a Friday night, a Part 2 of an Easter movie about The Last Supper pulling in $1,226 per theater. And then there's Snow White, hogging up 3,750 mostly empty theaters and pulling in only $400 per theater.

This sort of junk from Disney must drive theater owners absolutely nuts!

The Numbers - Daily Box Office Chart for Friday April 4, 2025

Daily Domestic Box Office Chart for Friday April 4, 2025

thenumbers.com

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

‘Snow White’, Poisoned By Controversy At Box Office, Won’t Have A Happy Ending With $115M Loss: What Went Wrong

'Snow White' from Disney is set to lose $115M after all ancillaries and bombing at the box office.

deadline.com

Did we completely skip over this one? Deadline is projecting a 115M loss, which is way lighter than expected. Still a flop, not to mince words.

I’m slightly dubious (and that’s saying something). I don’t know why they are setting such high streaming rates. But I guess they figure more shelf life than The Marvels?

Also there’s our final cost figure. 410M (270M production).

I saw this the other day but couldn’t make their numbers work, they say a $115 million loss after all ancillaries, which they then calculate as $295 million, that places the box office loss at $410 million, which makes no sense if the total cost was $410 million.

My theory is the $101 million in global film rentals was supposed to say $101 million in global film revenue (Disneys share), that would place the box office loss around $270 million (minus residuals) which could theoretically be possible but still seems a bit high. Their numbers just don’t make sense to me.

 

[FrontierSpirit]

 

[BrianLo]

I saw this the other day but couldn’t make their numbers work, they say a $115 million loss after all ancillaries, which they then calculate as $295 million, that places the box office loss at $410 million, which makes no sense if the total cost was $410 million.

My theory is the $101 million in global film rentals was supposed to say $101 million in global film revenue (Disneys share), that would place the box office loss around $270 million (minus residuals) which could theoretically be possible but still seems a bit high. Their numbers just don’t make sense to me.

I’m not sure if they edited it, but it’s 295 in revenue minus 410 in costs. Yes the 101 is part of revenue, but maybe the article was updated.

 

[BrianLo]

Here's a quick update on Friday's domestic box office. The scale of a box office bomb like Snow White always makes me wonder what sort of contractual obligation the theater chains have with "Disney!", likely based on decades of solid performances. But for the past several years Disney has had more flops than blockbusters, and the theater chains must hate this sort of weekend!

Whenever there are calls for some sort of impropriety on screen counts… what product exactly are they supposed to be shoving in there?

They are desperate for product, even if that product is Snow White.

Disney has had one out-and-out flop proceeded by a year with 4 relative hits and a bunch of soft break evens. 2023 is bad, but you are somewhat clinging to that to bring the average towards your point. Let’s see how 2025 continues to play before drawing up the obituary, the majority of us knew this one wasn’t destined for greatness. As I’ve said, we were actually quite overdue for a flop, the industry has always functioned this way in the tentpole environment.

 

[DKampy]

Gunn’s Superman is the new hate focus, at least for the moment. I don’t think the campaign will take off, but worth keeping an eye on.

We have seen this happen before with a Gunn project in Peacemaker… it never took hold and was precisely drop and was barely mentioned again among the ragers

 

[Phroobar]

In my local theaters, Snow White is being show 4 times a day with a total of 14 seats sold. While Minecraft is being shown every 15 minutes with an average of 75-80% of the seats sold this weekend. Minecraft should easily be able to make more money this weekend than Snow White did it's entire domestic run. I'm seeing Minecraft tonight.

My theater is also showing two showings of Steamboat. Horror movie with Steamboat Willy as the killer. It is similar to Mouse Trap and Pooh Blood & Honey movies. There are 10 seats sold between the two times. It was made by the company that makes the Terrifier movies.

 

[Agent H]

In my local theaters, Snow White is being show 4 times a day with a total of 14 seats sold. While Minecraft is being shown every 15 minutes with an average of 75-80% of the seats sold this weekend. Minecraft should easily be able to make more money this weekend than Snow White did it's entire domestic run. I'm seeing Minecraft tonight.

My theater is also showing two showings of Steamboat. Horror movie with Steamboat Willy as the killer. It is similar to Mouse Trap and Pooh Blood & Honey movies. There are 10 seats sold between the two times. It was made by the company that makes the Terrifier movies.

How is Minecraft playing every 15 minutes? Are they showing let’s plays of the game instead of the actual movie?

 

[WorldExplorer]

Disney Springs' AMC (on top of the huge amount of screenings in a variety of theater-types, including with Spanish captions) has an option to rent a theater for your group to watch Minecraft. Presumably, Snow White doesn't have this option because you're already going to have the theater to yourself for the normal ticket price.

 

[Tony the Tigger]

Disney Springs' AMC (on top of the huge amount of screenings in a variety of theater-types, including with Spanish captions) has an option to rent a theater for your group to watch Minecraft. Presumably, Snow White doesn't have this option because you're already going to have the theater to yourself for the normal ticket price.

I know you’re making a joke, but my AMC had that option for Snow White when it was new, and also had that option for Minecraft today at 2 PM.