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[GoofGoof]

If only there was a way to fix the dead end that will still be an issue once Monstropolis opens. Like once you hit the big show building, turn left, and back you are around Star Tours.

There is a small alley between Star Tours show building and Pizza Rizzo/Store but it’s probably used for deliveries and backstage stuff. I can’t see them using it for guests. I think we are stuck with the dead end. I’m ok with that in this case but the park does have too many dead ends and bad flow. They really need to address that with AC redo and hopefully connect back to RockNMuppets Coaster area.

 

[President Loki]

There is a small alley between Star Tours show building and Pizza Rizzo/Store but it’s probably used for deliveries and backstage stuff. I can’t see them using it for guests. I think we are stuck with the dead end. I’m ok with that in this case but the park does have too many dead ends and bad flow. They really need to address that with AC redo and hopefully connect back to RockNMuppets Coaster area.

Or you could build a land connecting from Toy Story to RnRc, maybe like an Indiana Jones: Rome Expedition. Imagineeringland did a really cool ride idea for Indiana Jones, a water/EMV dark ride hybrid called Lost city of the gods I think, maybe a ride like that because to give DHS a water ride, and maybe an LPS flat ride like Luigi's in DCA. Maybe even a motorcycle launch coaster like Hagrids.

 

[GoofGoof]

Or you could build a land connecting from Toy Story to RnRc, maybe like an Indiana Jones: Rome Expedition. Imagineeringland did a really cool ride idea for Indiana Jones, a water/EMV dark ride hybrid called Lost city of the gods I think, maybe a ride like that because to give DHS a water ride, and maybe an LPS flat ride like Luigi's in DCA. Maybe even a motorcycle launch coaster like Hagrids.

It’s possible. There is a backstage pathway next to Woody’s BBQ restaurant that leads behind Launch Bay building. Could be made as a path into whatever new land is created. I’d love a water ride at DHS but probably not Indy. Water rides are high capacity with limited or no height restrictions and high capacity. Checks the boxes. No more coasters for a while. Gotta get back to better story telling and epic dark rides.

 

[celluloid]

No more coasters and pause on animated based attractions for DHS would be my simple basic edicts.

We have multiple animated world lands in one park and the Park's centerpiece E Ticket is based in entering an animated world.

 

[TheDisneyParksfanC8]

No more coasters and pause on animated based attractions for DHS would be my simple basic edicts.

We have multiple animated world lands in one park and the Park's centerpiece E Ticket is based in entering an animated world.

If Pixar movies Elio and Hoppers are hits, those could warrant attractions in Epcot then.

 

[Casper Gutman]

Keeping the area a dead-end is more proof this is a hasty, relatively cheap overlay with no planning for the parks larger needs.

 

[GoofGoof]

No more coasters and pause on animated based attractions for DHS would be my simple basic edicts.

We have multiple animated world lands in one park and the Park's centerpiece E Ticket is based in entering an animated world.

There is already a Star Wars Land there. There is a ban on most Marvel stuff with GoTG being the obvious exception but already built at EPCOT. Indy is going to DAK. TWDC seems very opposed to building non-IP based rides anymore. As a result of all of this I don’t see them pausing animated based attractions at DHS.

I would not be opposed to pausing the concept of entire lands based on one franchise (animated or not). I’d love to see them turn either AC or Echo Lake or both into more generic lands like Fantasy Land for DHS or a Super Hero land. I don’t need to be “transported to the world of the incredibles“ but an E ticket based on them would be cool. They could work in some of the lesser Marvel characters not covered under the Universal contract as well. I don’t want a Dr Strange land but a ride based on the franchise existing in a gereric Super hero land I would be good with. You could layer in flat rides, play areas, meet and greets, gift shops, stage shows or entertainment and unique dining as well. Maybe even the return of a parade.

I know that’s not how they build anymore but new lands based on a single IP with 1 main ride don’t move the needle on capacity the way a land with multiple smaller rides can.

 

[GoofGoof]

Keeping the area a dead-end is more proof this is a hasty, relatively cheap overlay with no planning for the parks larger needs.

It’s certainly a sign they have no intention of redoing echo lake area any time soon. It would be hard to address the dead end without either removing Star Tours or expanding behind it to connect back up around Backlot Express area.

 

[celluloid]

There is already a Star Wars Land there. There is a ban on most Marvel stuff with GoTG being the obvious exception but already built at EPCOT. Indy is going to DAK. TWDC seems very opposed to building non-IP based rides anymore. As a result of all of this I don’t see them pausing animated based attractions at DHS.

I would not be opposed to pausing the concept of entire lands based on one franchise (animated or not). I’d love to see them turn either AC or Echo Lake or both into more generic lands like Fantasy Land for DHS or a Super Hero land. I don’t need to be “transported to the world of the incredibles“ but an E ticket based on them would be cool. They could work in some of the lesser Marvel characters not covered under the Universal contract as well. I don’t want a Dr Strange land but a ride based on the franchise existing in a gereric Super hero land I would be good with. You could layer in flat rides, play areas, meet and greets, gift shops, stage shows or entertainment and unique dining as well. Maybe even the return of a parade.

I know that’s not how they build anymore but new lands based on a single IP with 1 main ride don’t move the needle on capacity the way a land with multiple smaller rides can.

They are going to have to make a variety of quality cinema if that is the case.

It is funny how they can't produce non Marvel/Star Wars live action hits anymore.

 

[GoofGoof]

They are going to have to make a variety of quality cinema if that is the case.

It is funny how they can't produce non Marvel/Star Wars live action hits anymore.

I think they have enough material to choose from now it’s just a matter of deciding which to use and then most importantly executing on it. Splash Mountain was one of the best rides of all time based on a very average movie most people have never seen.

 

[celluloid]

I think they have enough material to choose from now it’s just a matter of deciding which to use and then most importantly executing on it. Splash Mountain was one of the best rides of all time based on a very average movie most people have never seen.

Splash was based on a movie many in comparison had never seen because of its ban by the time 30 years of it hit. But older definitely know it as famous. It re-released in theaters not long before the ride opened. It made a healthy box office and was popular as a reissue. It actually had more success than Lady and the Tramp at the box office that same year.
But even though controversial, Song of the South was very popular. The bans came after. To the point where it was easy to replace for many reasons including the fact it was no longer widely published by company. So it is a poor example.


Current leadership would never reach that deep again with the IP edict. They would more often than not rather exploit and have multiple attractions of the same 5 or 6 properties.

Nothing outside of Star Wars, Indy, Marvel Pixar, and Mickey itself is anything they have showed wanting to peruse. When a random post frozen hit happens they have already used it. Zootopia, and Moana. Inside out still not at WDW. Which means currently, the live action well in the parks is exploited well and kind of dried up.

They need some successful live action if we are going to get much beyond animated lands, attractions and Star Wars at DHS under their last decade of goals.

The point self stands.

 

[GoofGoof]

Splash was based on a movie many in comparison had never seen because of its ban by the time 30 years of it hit. But older definitely know it as famous. It re-released in theaters not long before the ride opened. It made a healthy box office and was popular as a reissue. It actually had more success than Lady and the Tramp at the box office that same year.
But even though controversial, Song of the South was very popular. The bans came after. To the point where it was easy to replace for many reasons including the fact it was no longer widely published by company. So it is a poor example.


Current leadership would never reach that deep again with the IP edict. They would more often than not rather exploit and have multiple attractions of the same 5 or 6 properties.

Nothing outside of Star Wars, Indy, Marvel Pixar, and Mickey itself is anything they have showed wanting to peruse. When a random post frozen hit happens they have already used it. Zootopia, and Moana. Inside out still not at WDW. Which means currently, the live action well in the parks is exploited well and kind of dried up.

They need some successful live action if we are going to get much beyond animated lands, attractions and Star Wars at DHS under their last decade of goals.

The point self stands.

Song of the South was re-released and didn’t crack $20M or the top 50 in movies in 1986. Top Gun hit $175M as reference to the box office number range for that year. It was an average movie not wildly popular but the subject of a great theme park attraction. I am not suggesting Disney will make a ride based off of an “average” film again, but my point is the IP does not make or break the ride. There are more than enough animated IPs they haven’t fully utilized at WDW even if they ignore live action films. There’s no lack of material to pick from.

 

[UNCgolf]

Song of the South was re-released and didn’t crack $20M or the top 50 in movies in 1986. Top Gun hit $175M as reference to the box office number range for that year. It was an average movie not wildly popular but the subject of a great theme park attraction. I am not suggesting Disney will make a ride based off of an “average” film again, but my point is the IP does not make or break the ride. There are more than enough animated IPs they haven’t fully utilized at WDW even if they ignore live action films. There’s no lack of material to pick from.

This an issue with the IP mandate that I think gets overlooked -- it's very unlikely management would be on board with a ride based on something like the Rescuers, even though it's a Disney IP (and one that was a pretty big hit at the time).

It almost certainly needs to be a recent IP (or one that is still moving a lot of merch and/or Disney+ streams), and one that they think will drive merchandise sales. Imagineers don't really have the freedom to design using ANY Disney IP.

 

[lazyboy97o]

This an issue with the IP mandate that I think gets overlooked -- it's very unlikely management would be on board with a ride based on something like the Rescuers, even though it's a Disney IP (and one that was a pretty big hit at the time).

It almost certainly needs to be a recent IP (or one that is still moving a lot of merch and/or Disney+ streams), and one that they think will drive merchandise sales. Imagineers don't really have the freedom to design using ANY Disney IP.

It’s better described as a franchise mandate.

 

[GoofGoof]

This an issue with the IP mandate that I think gets overlooked -- it's very unlikely management would be on board with a ride based on something like the Rescuers, even though it's a Disney IP (and one that was a pretty big hit at the time).

It almost certainly needs to be a recent IP (or one that is still moving a lot of merch and/or Disney+ streams), and one that they think will drive merchandise sales. Imagineers don't really have the freedom to design using ANY Disney IP.

I agree 100%. I only brought up Splash to make the point that even if you view the IP as meh it’s still possible to build a great and entertaining ride based on it. Some people are just as luke warm on Zootopia or Incredibles or Moana or Frozen or Inside Out or any other IP which is relevant today with the prospect of sequels and merchandise sales. Any of those franchises could easily end up with a great ride (like Splash Mountain was).

 

[JackCH]

I agree 100%. I only brought up Splash to make the point that even if you view the IP as meh it’s still possible to build a great and entertaining ride based on it. Some people are just as luke warm on Zootopia or Incredibles or Moana or Frozen or Inside Out or any other IP which is relevant today with the prospect of sequels and merchandise sales. Any of those franchises could easily end up with a great ride (like Splash Mountain was).

Honestly don’t like Guardians of the Galaxy, but Cosmic Rewind is one of my favorite rides now. And I know many people who feel similar.

 

[GoofGoof]

Honestly don’t like Guardians of the Galaxy, but Cosmic Rewind is one of my favorite rides now. And I know many people who feel similar.

Haha I think I’m the opposite. I like the movies but the ride was too much for me. I had to do it at least once but won’t be a repeat. Its not the ride’s fault….I am the one who is flawed

 

[Nickm2022]

If we're talking IP's my main issue is how disney favors certain IP's over others. It is beyond me Wall-E, Moana, Mary Poppins, and other big films don't have rides. Big IP's like Toy Story and Starwars are everywhere, even in areas that don't make sense. And IP's that would honestly translate amazing to theme park rides that aren't major (like Tron already) or Atlantis, Treasure Planet, Raya, and Luca are largely ignored. I don't care about IP's in a Disney park. I care about IP selection, and how they are used and where.