GoofGoof
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As far as I know they have the same policy for staff. Masks required indoors and optional outdoors.
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Interesting read.
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Scientists who quit FDA criticise plan for widespread Covid vaccine boosters
Pair who left agency two weeks ago among authors of scathing critique in academic journal
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Companies should look at what the Whirlpool company did last week to improve numbers. The company upped their money incentive for staff to get vaccinated . The incentive was increased to $1K per person.Come on 5%!!!!I want to go with NO masks before the year is out
Patcheslee
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Are they back paying employees that received less?
Don't know , but Whirlpool started a $200 incentive to get the vaccine shot in May and last week increased it to $1K per person to get more vaccinated in the company.
GoofGoof
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Good plan. No reason companies can’t use both a carrot and a stick. Get vaccinated and you get $1,000
and avoid the threat of having to stick a long q-tip up your nose every week 
. Seems like a no brainer to me….but I’m obviously not the target audience.
Patcheslee
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Found info, yes previous vaccinated employees will receive backpay. Still a good chunk of money after the 40% taxes.
GoofGoof
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So if I go get a job at whirlpool now will they pay me for my vaccine I got back in April? Could be a good move
Tony the Tigger
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Pffft. At this point, if you’re not vaccinated, you haven’t passed the smart test for me to hire you.
What's your user name and password so that we can read it?Interesting read.
Scientists who quit FDA criticise plan for widespread Covid vaccine boosters
Pair who left agency two weeks ago among authors of scathing critique in academic journal
Disney Analyst
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I had a feeling that the interval would result in a better situation up here, it seems that may be correct:
DisneyFan32
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In a new review, some F.D.A. scientists and others say boosters aren’t needed for the general population.
None of the data on coronavirus vaccines so far provides credible evidence in support of boosters for the general population, according to a review published on Monday by an international group of scientists, including some at the Food and Drug Administration and the World Health Organization.
The 18 authors include Dr. Philip Krause and Dr. Marion Gruber, F.D.A. scientists who announced last month that they will be leaving the agency, at least in part because they disagreed with the Biden administration’s push for boosters before federal scientists could review the evidence and make recommendations.
The Biden administration has proposed administering vaccine boosters eight months after the initial shots. But many scientists have opposed the plan, saying the vaccines continue to be powerfully protective against severe illness and hospitalization. A committee of advisers to the F.D.A. is scheduled to meet on Friday to review the data.
In the new review, published in The Lancet, experts said that whatever advantage boosters provide would not outweigh the benefit of using those doses to protect the billions of people who remain unvaccinated worldwide. Boosters may be useful in some people with weak immune systems, they said, but are not yet needed for the general population.
Several studies published by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, including three on Friday, suggest that while efficacy against infection with the Delta variant seems to wane slightly over time, the vaccines hold steady against severe illness in all age groups. Only in older adults over 75 do the vaccines show some weakening in protection against hospitalization.
Immunity conferred by vaccines relies on protection both from antibodies and from immune cells. Although the levels of antibodies may wane over time — and raise the risk of infection — the body’s memory of the virus is long-lived.
The vaccines are slightly less effective against infection with the Delta variant than with the Alpha variant, but the virus has not yet evolved to evade the sustained responses from immune cells, the experts said. Boosters may eventually be needed even for the general population if a variant emerges that sidesteps the immune response.
The experts cautioned that promoting boosters before they are needed, as well as any reports of side effects from booster shots such as heart problems or Guillain-Barre syndrome, may undermine confidence in the primary vaccination.
Data from Israel suggest that booster doses enhance protection against infection. But that evidence was collected just a week or so after the third dose and may not hold up over time, the experts said.
The M.T.A. will withhold death benefits from unvaccinated workers.
New York’s Metropolitan Transportation Authority plans to extend a $500,000 death benefit to its employees who die of Covid-related causes through the end of 2021, a senior authority official said Monday. But the benefit will remain unavailable to those who decline to get vaccinated against the coronavirus.
The authority, which runs New York City’s subways, buses and commuter trains, has provided the $500,000 benefit to all of its 68,000 employees since last year. But in April, as vaccines became widely available, the authority decided that, starting in June, the benefit would be available only to the families of employees who had been vaccinated.
That requirement was one of several ways the authority used to urge its workers to get vaccinated. The authority was hit hard by the virus last year, with 171 employees dying of Covid-related causes since the pandemic started.
Only three of those deaths have occurred since June, said Tim Minton, a spokesman for the authority. Mr. Minton said that the authority had no indication that any of the three had been vaccinated. He said none of their families had tried to claim the death benefit and so far no family had been denied the benefit.
“We want each of our employees to get every single benefit that they are entitled to,” Mr. Minton said. He added that the authority and its officials had taken every step they could think of to encourage employees to get the vaccine, including allowing paid time off for each dose.
Tony Utano, president of Local 100 of the Transport Workers Union, said that his members had been notified in April, when the Covid death benefit was extended, that “vaccinations would be required to access the benefit as of June.”
The benefit is equal to the benefit for deaths in the line of duty under the union’s contract. Mr. Utano expressed pride in the union’s efforts to persuade the authority to provide the benefit because transit workers had to keep working through the early months of the pandemic.
The extended benefit was scheduled to expire on Aug. 31. But the authority’s board is expected to move this week to extend it again, to Dec. 31.
Mr. Minton said that more than 70 percent of the authority’s employees have gotten at least one does of the vaccine, mostly through programs run by the state. But the rates are lower for employees of some of the transit divisions, including subways and buses.
The authority has not made vaccines mandatory for its workers. But on Oct. 12, it plans to start requiring weekly testing of workers who cannot provide proof that they have been vaccinated.
JoeCamel
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That has been the thinking since spring that late '21 or early '22 the littles would be approved to be vaccinated. Maybe a smaller dose will be administered but I can't wait until they can get some protection from this virus.
CaptainAmerica
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They already have it. An unvaccinated child has roughly the same risk profile as a fully vaccinated, healthy 30 year old.
For N.B.A. referees, agreeing to a vaccine mandate, a rarity in U.S. sports, was ‘not that difficult.
Late last month, the N.B.A. sent out a short news release announcing an agreement with the union representing the league’s referees to mandate Covid-19 vaccines. It stipulated that all referees must to be fully vaccinated to work games, including “recommended boosters.”
The agreement stands out in the sports world, where Covid vaccinations remain largely a point of contention. And it is unusual even for pro basketball itself: No such mandate exists with N.B.A. players, creating a potentially awkward situation where some league employees are mandated to take the vaccine and others aren’t.
Marc Davis, the union’s president and a referee himself for more than two decades, said in an interview that the agreement was born of a strong relationship with the N.B.A., and that the referees were broadly in favor of the mandate.
“When you have a collaborative environment between management and labor, I think you’re constantly always working through issues and there’s a constant dialogue back and forth,” Davis said.
“It’s a shared view of vaccines that they are probably one of the top three inventions in the history of humankind. And to have this access to this innovative vaccine and allow us to continue to work, to do our business and to continue to work collaboratively, it’s not that difficult of a conversation to begin and to work through.”
GoofGoof
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My understanding from the Pfizer side is they are a week or 2 away from formally applying for EUA for 5-11 year olds. If the FDA follows a similar process as the past EUAs (they have already said it will take weeks and not months to review) then we could have an approval as early as mid-October. The dose in the study is smaller than the adult dose but since children have more healthy immune systems than most adults they should still have a similar level of protection with potentially less side effects. 2-5 could be about a month behind with 6-24 months coming by the end of the year.
GoofGoof
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Tell that to this girl’s family:
‘One of a kind’ 4-year-old dies of COVID within day of showing symptoms, Texas mom says
“I was against it,” the girl’s mother said of the vaccine. “Now, I wish I never was.”
A vaccine is far superior to wishing and hoping that your child isn’t the rare exception.
CaptainAmerica
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Anecdotes are not statistics.Tell that to this girl’s family:
‘One of a kind’ 4-year-old dies of COVID within day of showing symptoms, Texas mom says
“I was against it,” the girl’s mother said of the vaccine. “Now, I wish I never was.”www.yahoo.com
A vaccine is far superior to wishing and hoping that your child isn’t the rare exception.
Even fully vaccinated children with have breakthrough cases and, on occasion, fatalities.
I'm not making a claim against vaccines. We can and should vaccinate everyone we're able. I just want people to discuss risks with an appropriate frame of reference in the meantime.
Also, cause of death has not been determined in that case so, at present, you're talking out of your .
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