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Disney Genie and Genie+ at Walt Disney World
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Wendy Pleakley
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If buying Lightning Lane access resort guests can book two passes at 7am, before everyone else.
All resort guests get into every park 30 minutes early, every day.
High level resort guests get Evening Magic Hours twice a week.
Animaniac93-98
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I guess anything that's over 20 years old stops being "timeless, relevant and Disney"...
Club Cooloholic
Well-Known Member
What is a high level resort? Deluxe? That is pretty good but personally the half hour in the morning stinks.
Do resort guests also get first dibs on the individual attraction purchases?
doctornick
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Yes, Deluxe resorts (and DVC)
Wendy Pleakley
Well-Known Member
I personally am optimistic about the morning access.
Early Magic Hours were often to be avoided, because they were at one park and drew crowds. It usually made more sense to go elsewhere.
Now it's in my interest to take advantage every day. 30 minutes isn't a lot but that means potentially getting one main attraction in while non-resort guests are still waiting to get in.
Someone did the math somewhere, but while Evening Magic Hours are now better for those accessing them, are they worth the price? It's something like at least $200 more per night to stay Deluxe, so getting four hours of EMH in a week costs $1400. Better to stay in a moderate resort and buy After Hours tickets for example (ignoring the other reasons people may prefer deluxe accommodations).
Chip Chipperson
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The incentives (once they go live) will be the 30-minute early morning access each day (all resort guests) and 2-hour extra evening hours some nights (Deluxe resort guests only) plus the ability to buy the non-Genie+ Individual Attraction Selections at 7 AM before the parks open (think Rise, Rat, FoP as examples). But that's pretty much it aside from being able to take Disney transportation from your resort to the parks and back again. You can also book dining for the length of your stay once you're 60 days out from your arrival. It's certainly less than we got before and may even be worthless to many.
I'm not sure they're connecting it to Lightning McQueen. None of graphic design I've seen indicates that.
Surprisingly.
dav23
Active Member
Why does that stink? You can just bee-line to a headliner and ride it before anyone else. Seems like a good perk to me.
Casper Gutman
Well-Known Member
Well, then I’m really confused.
Why not keep the branding Aladdin-centric- Abu-Thru? Queue of Wonder? Wait, those are awful.
Club Cooloholic
Well-Known Member
Eh, a half hour. Just seems chaotic. An hour would have been better . Seems very meager
Wendy Pleakley
Well-Known Member
One Jump ahead of the non-paying chumps lane?
Jafar better way to get the most out of your Disney visit lane?
GimpYancIent
Well-Known Member
Sooooo simply put. No incentive. None of the mentioned remotely fall into the category of incentive.
Casper Gutman
Well-Known Member
Iago Faster Lane?
Parker in NYC
Well-Known Member
I’d like to apologize in advance to those of you who still begrudge my disrespectful misuse of “MGM” when referring to DHS. I won’t be dropping “FastPass” either.
SoFloMagic
Well-Known Member
Fastpass++
SoFloMagic
Well-Known Member
Agreed. Freebees will be called fastpasses, IAS will be called genies
ParentsOf4
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Disney already has a way to control crowds. It's called Park Pass.
If Disney really wanted to control crowds in order to "maintain a good guest experience", they could set Park Pass to whatever levels they want. Instead, they increased the number of Park Passes even as COVID surged in Florida.
Let's see what's really going on here.
- Disney ended the free FastPass+ and replaced it with a cash system that could cost Guests $50 or more per person per day.
- Disney ended Extra Magic Hours, and is limiting its replacement to Deluxe Resort Guests only, and only (it appears) for the 2 slowest nights of the week in an effort to boost Deluxe Resort occupancy.
- Disney is ending Disney's Magical Express to reduce its costs. (Seriously, how does this remotely "maintain a good guest experience?")
- Disney charges for hotel parking, when it used to be included in the price of the hotel. (This improves Guest experience how?)
- Disney raised hotel rack rates by about a total of 30% over the last few years.
- Disney is offering no hotel discounts after September.
- Disney now charges for MagicBands, something that used to be included in the price of an onsite stay. (Yes, Guests love paying for something they used to get for free.)
- Disney has closed numerous shows and meet & greets, and is only slowly bringing these back, yet is still charging full price for tickets.
- Disney increased annual pass prices by 25% for the very reason CEO Bob Chapek explicitly stated earlier this year:
Things like annual pass. There's probably no better example here than annual pass, where it's a legacy system, and people keep signing up year after year after year, which may or may not play into your yield management strategy in an ideal way. So we had a chance to thoughtfully and thoroughly reconsider that.
Disney doesn't give a hoot about "controlling crowds" or a "good guest experience."
The only thing corporate Disney cares about is money.
runnsally
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100%. Anyone with a guest services complaint about future crowds should start with this.
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