Vaccines get approved at 50%, which doesn't mean half of people exposed will get the virus.
Not really. The same reason a person would still get a vaccine that isn’t 100% effective is the same reason a company would require it. You greatly reduce your likelihood of being infected at all and if you are infected you are more likely to have a mild case and much more likely to avoid hospitalization or death.
I thought the CDC said the vaccines aren’t effective in stopping you from catching the Delta?
Not a coin flip. An efficacy of zero would be a coin flip, meaning you would be just as likely to get infected vaccinated or unvaccinated.
They are less effective at preventing symptomatic infection and severe infections compared to previous strains, but they still are pretty effective overall.
No not at all. Efficacy is still really high for the vaccines. It’s not 95% anymore but in the 80s with most studies.
I know they are still quite effective at keeping you out of the hospital, but it sounded like they don’t really do much to keep you catching it period.
Vaccine effectiveness is quoted is relative terms not absolute. I gave VE relative numbers not absolute numbers . ( See prior posts where I even described the use of it in studies).
True.
Lower odds of getting sick and dying when the people going to work do just that, by what will be the majority of employees AND CUSTOMERS insisting on it and pushing for it with their wallets because it's the right thing to do.
The latest findings (not yet published and peer reviewed) is that, yes, a vaccinated person can be infected with COVID and be contagious.
Not true. The CDC never said the vaccines don’t do much to keep you from catching covid. The efficacy is still high. In recent studies out of the UK the efficacy was still 88% vs even mild infection. The reason the CDC changed their mask guidance for fully vaccinated people was related more to the overall community spread being really high. When cases explode like they have many places even though a breakthrough infection is still rare that occurrence happens more frequently as cases overall go up. As an example if efficacy is 85% and vaccination is split 50/50 each day we report 10,000 new cases we would have 1,500 breakthrough infections and 8,500 in unvaccinated people. When cases jump to 100,000 a day (like now) those numbers jump to 15,000 breakthrough and 85,000 in unvaccinated people. So as community spread rises your chance of being infected, even when vaccinated rises and when spread is high enough it makes sense to add in further mitigations like masks and distancing. That’s why the guidance is based on level of spread and not just anyone who is vaccinated.
Customers are insisting on both. The country is totally split on how to handle this.
Now, would you?
Flori-duh.
I am content to wait and see. I don't think that split you are referencing is down the middle, though.
Based on the people that I work with and converse with everyday.... it seems the majority are against mask and vaccine requirements.