They need to change the name of the park then, so that there is no "studios" in the name. What, though, I don't know. I do know, however, that the name of the studio park in Paris should also change its name. They are going to get a Frozen land.
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Frozen in Norway: Am I the only one who doesn't mind?
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They need to change the name of the park then, so that there is no "studios" in the name. What, though, I don't know. I do know, however, that the name of the studio park in Paris should also change its name. They are going to get a Frozen land.
FigmentsBrightIdeas
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I mean.. considering the rides are still focused on the ‘films’ that the ‘Disney Studios’ makes… there isn’t much need to change the name tbh… but if they do, it’d probably be best to make it something along the lines of. “Disney Cinemagic Park”.. Just look at Universal. They’ve been deviating a lot of their recent attractions comparatively to focus more on being ‘within’ the movies or studio IPs they own, rather than the filmmaking process.
FigmentsBrightIdeas
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Mhm.. Which is precisely why Frozen Ever After should’ve been placed in the ‘studios’ park in FL also rather than EPCOT
I'm just saying that the word "studios" should be dropped from the name, because it's not actually a literal studio anymore.
ElvisMickey
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To the original poster’s comment, yes.
FigmentsBrightIdeas
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Okay.. but Disney Studios Paris as far as I’m aware isn’t a working studio and still has the studios name. Let’s not forget to mention Universal Japan & Singapore.. they’re not working studios as far as I’m aware either.
Yes, I think the studios park in Paris should have its name changed, too, as I said.
FigmentsBrightIdeas
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Fair enough, what about the two Universal Studios parks in Tokyo & Singapore?
Only you seem to be saying that. I’m not.
Your argument is going around in circles
Sp bad they had to extend the parking lot within a year and attendance grew year on year after it opened.
FigmentsBrightIdeas
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To be fair Marni, he/she isn’t the only one saying that. A good number of folks have said the same thing atleast in regards to that… even Disney themselves had considered changing the name due to the fact it’s no longer a working studio. I don’t think anybody should argue though, that it isn’t a ‘ride the movies’ focused park like Universal Studios however, because it most definitley is.
However, I think atleast within this forum, which the poster I definitely feel like should’ve gotten by now, is that most of the folks ‘here’ don’t think Frozen Ever After is a good fit for the Norway pavilion at EPCOT.. 2 forum threads weren’t needed to get that feedback for this question. Now, if he were to ask the folks currently in charge at Disney this question or possibly even another group of folks on another social media site. They may feel more like the OP does… and in that case, well, hopefully the OP feels happier or validated that others share his or her opinion.. and that’s fine. You know, everyone has different opinions.
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Well, why is it called a studio when it long ceased to function as a literal studio? There should be another reason for it beyond just being another name for "movies".
FigmentsBrightIdeas
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You’ve basically answered your own question.. because the movies are the product of the Disney movie ‘studios’. That’s their reasoning.. and it’s the same reasoning Universal does the same type of rides mainly versus the ‘filmmaking’ focused ones they used to do and why Universal Singapore & Japan aren’t currently working studios as far as I’m aware.
mightynine
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Because it’s a theme park themed toward Hollywood and movies? This is like asking why is it called the Magic Kingdom when there’s not actual Magic and royalty in the park.
I really have no say about Universal, but why is it still called a studio at Disney? I am asking in part because I was raised on the castle parks (especially Disneyland) and Epcot, and also because the park is no longer a real studio. Maybe if they changed the name, it wouldn't be so bad. I also am willing to overlook thematic issues in Epcot.
mightynine
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All I’m saying is the OP is taking the name of DHS too literal, for whatever reason. It doesn’t have to be an actual working studio because it’s a theme park at a vacation resort.
mergatroid
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You could pretty much say that about many rides making sense though? What's the 'story' with Pirates (before or after Captain Jack Sparrow was added) and how does it make 'sense'?
We're out at sea and suddenly go down a slope where there's a big pirate ship (how did the ship get there if there's a drop from the sea into the dock?) firing at a town containing more pirates? We see pirates causing mayhem and at the end some pirates locked up and a pirate not locked up with all the treasure. So are we being taught that it's ok to be a pirate and rob and steal as long as you're good at it, or is it a set of scenes to enjoy without thinking everything through too much?
How about Peter Pan if we'd not seen the film, would the scenes all make perfect sense?
We're flying over London and approaching a tropical island. There's some children, mermaids, pirates and Indians there, why? How did the kids get there, why is one walking the plank and why are there Indians there? There's a boy in green who's subdued the pirates and captured the ship, how did he do this? A pirate is standing on an alligator's jaw, how did that happen?
I could go through other attractions too but you get the idea. Some are better than others at telling a story, but a ride only has so much time to tell a 'story'. A lot of the time the visuals and the effects are what make the ride, if we want to find fault to the extreme of the lyrics not matching exactly what's happening then we could rubbish any attraction ever built.
For me Frozen would have probably been a better fit in the MK or DHS, however Maelstrom was something I rode only as long as the wait was only 10 mins or less. I believe the Frozen attraction is a far better 'ride' than Maelstrom was, far more entertaining and fun. I used to really hate the show you were encouraged to watch following Maelstrom, I'm sad to admit I used to run if the doors were still open to avoid it. Eventually they kept the doors open so it was optional, but I seem to remember originally they kept you in an area after disembarking and 'made' you all watch it?
FigmentsBrightIdeas
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fair enough, I’m sure there are people willing to overlook thematic issues at EPCOT and really any other park. However, I’d argue that it doesn’t neccesarily make Disney’s current creative decisions with the park “right”. Though that’s also my opinion, just as you have the opinion that it may be “right” in your eyes. When it comes to this forum though, as should be clearly seen by now I’d hope, most people don’t feel that way as what can be seen in both threads you created regarding the topic. Try asking the question in another forum or social media outlet and see if you get a different response. Clearly you aren’t happy with the response you’re getting here, so if you genuinely only want your opinion validated, I’d try another site or forum to see if you get different results
Little Green Men
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It’s a movie park themed to the golden age of hollywood and stepping into movie worlds
FigmentsBrightIdeas
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I’d argue then the presentations within Norway should’ve been updated to be more captivating without compromising it’s original purpose & intent.
In regards to the attraction examples you gave. I’d say, None of those were exactly intended to tell a linear story that made sense. They were set to give you certain sensations & the ambiance of certain locations & what Pirates or ghosts do or how it feels to go through a haunted house or a Caribbean being pillaged by Pirates or how you felt within the movies (the feeling of actually flying over/through Neverland and Peter Pan battling Captain Hook). That’s not the same situation in Frozen Ever After’s case. I rewatched the attraction recently to refresh my memory and There is ‘Infact’ a linear story setup in journeying to Elsa’s ice castle and her inviting us for a summer celebration. The only problem is the way they executed the scenes setting up that journey with the ride system ( the Kristoff & Anna scene is just a repeat of the first scene in essence with little to no difference in the action going on, making it not very interesting or captivating) and by the time
we meet Elsa, she pushes us away, singing at us to “Let it Go” (unlike where at the very least in the first two previous scenes. They ‘did’ add lyrics to both “Wanna Build a Snowman’ & ‘First Time In Forever’ that Elsa is setting up/inviting us for a “Magic night” or a “snowy summer day for me and you”), then the snow monster comes up in the next scene, yells “I’m free!” (for what reason in context of the story & scenes setup, I don’t know..) and then it ends with Anna, Elsa, and Olaf singing “In Summer” with no changes to the lyrics to make it fit within the ride’s story. Is ‘that’ the celebration we were supposed to attend or no? I thought everyone in the kingdom was invited. Shouldn’t it have been an ending with more than just Anna, Elsa, and Olaf.
It’s mainly the execution of the idea that suffers, wherever it’s placed. Though at EPCOT, it particuarly sticks out like a sore thumb due to it making little to no effort to actually tie it into Norway in a fun & unique way.
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