ImperfectPixie
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No. We had a chance to get it to zero in the US, but we blew it in every way possible.
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Polkadotdress
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But that was my point in relation to Hershey as well. They were quick to make the change, but don’t have the answers re: HOW.
Same for CDC. Where is the HOW? States are all over the places with what they can/can’t do or will/won’t allow.
It’s as if the plan was:
Ready...Fire...Aim.
GoofGoof
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Not really the same. The CDC recommendations aren’t rules that are implemented they are guidelines a state or business use to set their own policies. My issue is with Hershey Park changing their policy on the fly without saying what the change actually is less than 24 hours before it goes into effect. It’s poor customer service.
Willmark
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There is no way this was ever reaching zero in any scenario outside of it never reaching the US in the first place.
Flugell
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Different circumstances,I admit but New Zealand and Australia are.
After as long as this has gone on, I wonder why.
ImperfectPixie
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We could have if we were aggressive enough, but we chose not to be.
Willmark
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New Zealand? You mean a (relatively) isolated country which has a population lower than the greater NYC area and ennanced a near total quarantine/lock down? That was never flying here let alone at theme parks
GaBoy
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What do you want to bet they have modeled this thing to death. They have estimated the amount that will be hospitalized or pass away, the amount that this will actually push toward vaccination because a certain amount are lazy but not dishonest, the amount that would lie and never vaccinate regardless and couple that with all the data on vaccinated transmission. They rolled all this up in a policy that hits all the high points and starts pushing the point that at some point the public will have to self assess.
Edit... I used the word "point" a lot. Sorry. But you get the point.
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Willmark
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I stand by my statement, it was never happening here so we'll agree to disagree.
Anyways not the political forum and don't want to get booted so I'll leave it at that.
Flugell
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I acknowledged different circumstances but have to ask why couldn’t it have been done?New Zealand? You mean a (relatively) isolated country which has a population lower than the greater NYC area and ennanced a near total quarantine/lock down? That was never flying here let alone at theme parks
Willmark
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Bowing out as my responses will be against the current TOS of the site.
bryanfze55
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Because Americans aren’t particularly good at following directions.
But also worth noting NZ and Australia are the exception rather than the rule. Western Europe has had nearly just as much trouble as the US in containing this virus, at least on a per capita basis.
I was going to mention following the science as well. I think that is really important and we have heard that message frequently during this ordeal.
Flugell
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Fair enough! Don’t want to cause any difficulties. From the U.K. perspective it’s hard to understand that’s all!
Flugell
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Sad but true.
GoofGoof
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The science is pretty indisputable. If you are fully vaccinated you are at a very low risk of catching Covid and as a result very low risk to spread it. Masks are worn to stop the spread of covid. A fully vaccinated person is very low risk to spread Covid so they don’t need to wear a mask.
Where the controversy comes in is if you are at a large public venue how do you know who is vaccinated? The science is very clear on fully vaccinated people but there is no change in the recomemdation or the science on unvaccinated people. So a policy decision is needed to either police who is vaccinated and who isn’t (difficult) or decide whether to just assume nobody is vaccinated or assume everyone is vaccinated. That has not much to do with science anymore. It’s a policy decision.
bryanfze55
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That being said, American companies created the vaccines that will bring the world out of this pandemic. It’s worth fawning over Australia and NZ for halting circulation of the virus in their own nations - but what our country did will have a far greater world impact. Surely we get a bit of credit.
I mean I don't think America should take all the credit here. The Pfizer vaccine was developed by a German company, and there are other vaccines being used in other countries that were developed there.
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