How many guests know the spires on Cinderella Castle are gold leaf?
That’s the real question.
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EPCOT New Park Entrance coming to Epcot
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That’s the real question.
WillWrambles
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- In the Parks
- No
Well I didn’t know that. Neat. My question still applies, though. If the average park guest is not able to physically see the chains, will it matter? They see the gold on the castle, yes, but will they see the chains?
ImperfectPixie
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I've known for a looooong time. I learned how to do gold leafing when I was a teenager, though, so I had an unfair advantage.
The woodcarving shop I used to work for actually bid on gilding the MA statehouse dome.
msteel
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I know it doesn't really matter, but at least the "safety chains" are wire rope with crimped thimbles. Much better both in safety and in appearance than actual chains would be.
And since I'm now in the thread, I'll say that I love Spaceship Earth and I would not want anything to ruin it's appearance.
From what I'm seeing this doesn't seem to go that far; and the lighting effect and/or mini-shows seem to have the potential to be quite nice.
I still may never see them in person, as at the moment I don't feel a WDW vacation has enough value to justify the expenditure it takes.
And since I'm now in the thread, I'll say that I love Spaceship Earth and I would not want anything to ruin it's appearance.
From what I'm seeing this doesn't seem to go that far; and the lighting effect and/or mini-shows seem to have the potential to be quite nice.
I still may never see them in person, as at the moment I don't feel a WDW vacation has enough value to justify the expenditure it takes.
MadTeacup
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Not sure, but I do. I understand why they exist, but I find them unsightly in most installations. They were the first thing I noticed in the points of light pictures.
What I don't understand is why they didn't just go with a lighting design that uses smaller, more hidden points and added show programming to the current uplighting. Yes it wouldn't be AS dynamic, but it would still get the "point" across.
That said, I'd have been happy to just have the current uplighting connected to the new main entrance lighting show control and just have it sync with the colors and patterns of the entrance lighting. My fear with the Points of Light project is that it's not actually designed to highlight Spaceship Earth, but to be a pretty light show installed on top of it. The way these lights work, there will likely be a lot of hot spots and shadow on the surface of the building and I fear this lighting is simply too gimmicky. To me, this does not look like a project that was conceived by a lighting designer, but merely implemented by one.A better use of this money (strictly from a lighting standpoint) would have been to add a Tokyo-style light show to Space Mountain that would eventually tie into the show control for the lighting on Tron to help unify the land.
If one guest does, it’s one too many. This company was renowned for the fine detail.
Hopefully they’ll be properly hidden further down, doubtful though since this would probably mean removing the outer panels.
Wired
trainplane3
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Zach - Mary Blair wouldn't hide them because removing the panels was against Walts wishes.
There, that's how they'll justify it. With a bunch of PR nonsense.
TikibirdLand
Well-Known Member
We use those cables on stage lighting all the time. It is possible to tuck them away behind the fixture and into that groove. Kinda sloppy, IMO. Also, painting them black to hide in those channels would help too. Should be interesting to see these fired up. Much better looking -- even with the cables showing -- than the Stargate/Tacos in WS.
Father Robinson
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So gross.
SpectroMagician
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Wow those look bad. How do you not design those to fit in the vertices instead of sticking out multiple inches? LEDs are small, they could have done it.
Just like the barges they do not seem to care at all what stuff looks like in the day, only at night.
Just like the barges they do not seem to care at all what stuff looks like in the day, only at night.
gerarar
Premium Member
An imagineer explained here why they designed it to stick out, so each LED on the sides of the fixture “shines across the different faces of Spaceship Earth”.
Maybe it could have been smaller, who knows.
jt04
Well-Known Member
Not and provide the same effect.
Fortunately Disney no longer dances to the troll's tune.
Ironic that the park that is supposed to represent change is in the eyes of some never supposed to innovate anything.
No wonder Eisner wanted to give the front of Epcot a rethink. All the vocal fans were stuck in the early 1980's. Clearly some still are. Probably listening to Epcot Center music loops on their Walkman right now.
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EPCOT Center was never, ever about “change”. Have you ever visited Epcot in person?
yensidtlaw1969
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The point is that doing things even if most guests wouldn’t notice them, like using real gold leaf on the Castle spires instead of just gold paint, used to be the standard.
Guests may not consciously notice the accumulation of details that go the extra mile, but they absolutely feel the absence of them.
MaximumEd
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@marni1971 , what was/is the life expectancy of the Alucobond panels?
Whose lifetime?