Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[Disney Experience]

Why would the Reedy Creek Improvement District suddenly get involved? They do not have any public health authority.

Reedy Creek:

The jurisdiction and powers of the Board of Supervisors provided for herein shall be exclusive of any law now or hereafter enacted providing for land use regulation, zoning or building codes, by the State of Florida or any agency or authority of the State and the provisions of any such law shall not be applicable within the territorial limits of the District.

So they could possible build a nuclear reactor in the district without state or county approvals. But unless masks could be considered land use regulation, zoning or building codes they (The five residents of Reedy Creek Improvement District) would not have veto power(in respect to county or state laws or requirements) on that.

THE ORIGINAL E.P.C.O.T - The Reedy Creek Improvement District

District boundaries as of 01/01/2020. (c) RCID.

sites.google.com

and the text of RCID charter that was approved by the Florida government:

RCID-Charter.pdf

drive.google.com

 

[Disney Experience]

Reedy Creek:

So they could possible build a nuclear reactor in the district without state or county approvals. But unless masks could be considered land use regulation, zoning or building codes they (The five residents of Reedy Creek Improvement District) would not have veto power(in respect to county or state laws or requirements) on that.

THE ORIGINAL E.P.C.O.T - The Reedy Creek Improvement District

District boundaries as of 01/01/2020. (c) RCID.

sites.google.com

and the text of RCID charter that was approved by the Florida government:

RCID-Charter.pdf

drive.google.com

Interesting enough in the charter notice (Page 8 of 92 pages in RCID-Charter.pdf) the exemption from safety and sanitary regulations enacted by state and county authorities. So perhaps RCID could go rogue if they wanted to on mask mandates of the counties they are in

...exempting the area of the District from county zoning, building and construction, platting, sub-division, safety, sanitary and like codes and regulations and from state law pertaining to land use regulation, zoning
and building codes, except to the extent that the Board of Supervisors may designate District areas subject to county codes and regulations;

 

[networkpro]

I had Moderna, my sister had Pfizer and we both made similar comments after not having any adverse affects from the second doses. "Hmmm...maybe it's not working?"

Maybe so. I and my wife had Coivd last year. From what I've read the reaction is greater for those who have had it as there is already an immediate immune response to the target spike protein that the vaccine mRNA causes to be produced.

 

[correcaminos]

I had Moderna, my sister had Pfizer and we both made similar comments after not having any adverse affects from the second doses. "Hmmm...maybe it's not working?"

Crazy day on this thread, but just saw this. Out of all my family (not even talking friends or other loved ones) I'm the only one who had any major arm pain from the 1st shot. I'm starting to be jealous of the lack of reactions. Now for the 2nd shot all I had was arm pain, but still so far no one else has had much of anything. Depending on age, they are showing that some people are not having much of a reaction at all to either shot. Mine were pretty much identical to each other in terms of reactions. The 2nd one I could feel the sting with the actual vaccine going in vs the first where I felt nothing. The arm pain started an hour or so earlier than the 1st one did too, but amount of pain and length of pain was pretty much identical. Neither time did I run a temp more than 1 degree more than normal really. Neither time did I feel hit by a truck or have chills. In fact both times I was out and about the next day doing my usual stuff.

 

[Kevin_W]

What State are you in? The highest I see on the CDC site is 38.8 per 100k for any State

Ohio. Sorry, I mis-typed. 50 per 100,000 over two weeks, not a daily average of 50 per 100k over two weeks (so 50/14 = 3.6 cases per 100k per day).

https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#cases_casesper100klast7days has the data for the country at 9.4 per 100k per day and Ohio at 7.7. Ohio's own data shows 15.4 per 100k by my math and 12.8 from the article. Not sure of the difference between that and the CDC numbers.

 

[Kevin_W]

Crap, he did? Stupid work made me miss this. I'm in Franklin Co though and we had mandates before the state did. We also had variants similar to the UK for a while. Politically you are correct, both sides don't like him now.

Hi, neighbor! Franklin Co myself (which you probably guessed since my works at OSUMC). We're up in Dublin.

 

[correcaminos]

Hi, neighbor! Franklin Co myself (which you probably guessed since my works at OSUMC). We're up in Dublin.

I guessed you couldn't be far but wasn't sure since I know people who commute pretty far to work at OSU. We're just below you in UA. Husband works in Dublin near Corn Henge though.

And I even missed the clarification on numbers per 2 weeks. Oops.

 

[Lilofan]

I wonder if Publix will be offering their $10 gift card. Every year FL Publix offers anyone getting the flu shot showing their insurance card, at the pharmacy a $10 gift card. Get a shot and get free food or beer!

 

[JoeCamel]

I wonder if Publix will be offering their $10 gift card. Every year FL Publix offers anyone getting the flu shot showing their insurance card, at the pharmacy a $10 gift card. Get a shot and get free food or beer!

I'm not sure who is paying them for this effort but for the flu they bill an insurance company. That $10 is not coming out of Publix's pocket. I do like getting a free sub when I get my flu shot though.

 

[Tuvalu]

I wonder if Publix will be offering their $10 gift card. Every year FL Publix offers anyone getting the flu shot showing their insurance card, at the pharmacy a $10 gift card. Get a shot and get free food or beer!

They’re not.

 

[seascape]

Today the NY Times reported only 3 states still have over 30 caces per 100,000, NY, NJ and RI. 10 States are in the 20s, 34 in the 10s and 4 in the single digits. The chages from yesterday is a reduction of one state from the 30's and an increase of one state in the single digits. Plus another day reported of over 2 million shots reported. Daily progress and a day closer to this being over.

 

[DisneyCane]

Florida is changing to align with the feds...

...after the pharmacy chains said they were doing it anyway.

It's because the acting HHS secretary put out an order that States have to offer the vaccine to teachers. Since the Federal government is paying for the vaccines, they get to make the rules. Nobody is "aligning," they are "obeying."

It's a "payback" to the teacher's unions. The current administration pledged to follow the science. There is no science to support prioritizing teachers over seniors or people with known high risk comorbidities.

In FL this adds around 250,000 people to the pool of currently eligible.

 

[Tony the Tigger]

Just booked our appointments for Publix this coming Monday morning!

Now I have to get my doctor to sign the vulnerability form in time.

 

[DisneyDebRob]

Just booked our appointments for Publix this coming Monday morning!

Now I have to get my doctor to sign the vulnerability form in time.

Good for you! If there are still openings, I may be willing to drive down from PA. There’s is nothing here. Throw in a sub with the shot and it might be worth it!

 

[Tony the Tigger]

Good for you! If there are still openings, I may be willing to drive down from PA. There’s is nothing here. Throw in a sub with the shot and it might be worth it!

I had six windows open with “book now” a few minutes ago.

 

[Polkadotdress]

I had six windows open with “book now” a few minutes ago.

My husband was just successful here in FL this morning too, with multiple windows open on his computer. It was Walgreens for the win, all the way over in Winter Haven.

 

[DisneyCane]

Good for you! If there are still openings, I may be willing to drive down from PA. There’s is nothing here. Throw in a sub with the shot and it might be worth it!

My inlaws are in PA. They got their first shots and were due for the second shot this wednesday but they still haven't been able to get an appointment. They were told that they were still waiting for a shipment.

"Vaccine tourism" was ended a few weeks ago so unless you are a snowbird with a residence of some type in FL, your drive would be a waste of gas and time unless you stop by WDW.

 

[Polkadotdress]

It's not a full contra-indication, but my MIL is on regular Remicade treatments for ulcerative colitis. Since Remicade affects the workings of the immune system, her rheumatologist is at least advising specific timing of the vaccine to have the least potential interactions with the Remicade.

She and I are the same, as that's my situation. I was lucky enough to have gotten the first shot in the right window between infusions. Oddly, it did put me into a slight flare, with gastro-intestinal issues for 24 hours. (and a headache and nausea). Somewhat dreading shot #2.

 

[Touchdown]

It's because the acting HHS secretary put out an order that States have to offer the vaccine to teachers. Since the Federal government is paying for the vaccines, they get to make the rules. Nobody is "aligning," they are "obeying."

It's a "payback" to the teacher's unions. The current administration pledged to follow the science. There is no science to support prioritizing teachers over seniors or people with known high risk comorbidities.

In FL this adds around 250,000 people to the pool of currently eligible.

Actually, this isn’t settled. What you said is right, vaccinating the most vulnerable will lower the death rate faster, however you can make the argument that since most seniors have likely been following stay at home orders and avoiding a lot of human contact we haven’t structured our vaccinations priorities to lower transmission the fastest, at least not since group 1A. Targeting essential workers (people who have to go to work in person for the good of society) will target vaccinating the people most likely to contract Covid and thus reduce cases quicker. I also don’t know why you are complaining, before this edict Florida was one of the few states that hadn’t moved on to essential workers, and while it adds more people to the pool, vaccine distribution was also increased dramatically this week. 54% of people in Florida over age 65 have started vaccinations per the last report. Most states have used the 50% to trigger opening the next group. It’s sound policy.

 

[Crunchie9]

Actually, this isn’t settled. What you said is right, vaccinating the most vulnerable will lower the death rate faster, however you can make the argument that since most seniors have likely been following stay at home orders and avoiding a lot of human contact we haven’t structured our vaccinations priorities to lower transmission the fastest, at least not since group 1A. Targeting essential workers (people who have to go to work in person for the good of society) will target vaccinating the people most likely to contract COVID and thus reduce cases quicker. I also don’t know why you are complaining, before this edict Florida was one of the few states that hadn’t moved on to essential workers, and while it adds more people to the pool, vaccine distribution was also increased dramatically this week. 54% of people in Florida over age 65 have started vaccinations per the last report. Most states have used the 50% to trigger opening the next group. It’s sound policy.

Pareto analysis says 20% of the population (statistics, not people) is responsible for 80% of the problems, therefore if you fix the 20% it should clear up 80%.

Medically it might not be fully transitional but the method is tried, tested and.... true.