Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[seabreezept813]

People have natural Immunity to the flu. We’ve all been exposed to it. There’s also a flu vaccine for higher risk people, so it’s possible to get vaccinated. In addition flu has some pretty good treatments that reduce the number of severe infections. We have a history of the illness to know who is most vulnerable. I know this is not new news to anyone. I thought we’d done the flu vs Covid thing to death.

Masks don’t prevent all deaths. They just reduce the spread.

I’d also say cleaning practices and hand washing are more important. Seeing kids not touching each other all the time or wiping their noses on their desks I’m sure has an impact on less sickness in school.

 

[MickeyLuv'r]

Make-up work as a parent in the before times was much harder to receive. Now that schools have adopted Google Classroom or whatever platform, that is much easier to distribute to an absent student.

I don't know that was really the case for quite some time. I haven't toured every school in the USA, but elementary students often get/got a work folder when they are/were absent. Email has been available for well over 20 years in most schools, and phones go back....a long time. At every level, contacting a teacher is usually just a matter of making a phone call or sending an email.

Some schools also have a policy of excusing assignments when a student is absent, especially if it is like a lab or something that would be hard to make up. Like swimming or volleyball in PE, also art and labs. Hard to make up a volleyball or tennis game by yourself at home.

In the case of long term illness/disabilities schools have to send a tutor/home visit teacher.

I don't know the online lesson will work in every case going forward. Again, PE comes to mind.

That said, I think snow days may well have effectively become obsolete.

 

[Disstevefan1]

But right in the range, fella


Don’t bother...thick as granite. The professionals have been right.

Those that only care about Disney passes have been wrong...somewhat not shockingly

I can’t speak for anyone but myself; I don’t really care about Disney passes; either they will be affordable to me and a value or not. I have always known sooner or later I will be priced out, that’s just the way it is..

As for the death count made by the experts. I will always hope it will ultimately be far less and I will not be ashamed or apologize for that..

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I can’t speak for anyone but myself; I don’t really care about Disney passes; either they will be affordable to me and a value or not. I have always known sooner or later I will be priced out, that’s just the way it is..

As for the death count made by the experts. I will always hope it will ultimately be far less and I will not be ashamed or apologize for that..

Hmmm...

I actually agree with you completely. You feeling ok?

 

[mmascari]

Are you saying that masks should be worn after the vaccine is available to all who want it and the number of cases comes down to a level where the government/businesses no longer require masks?

We are discussing after personally being vaccinated, we (some, not all) would feel more relaxed about not wearing a mask if allowed, but all the while understanding we still need to wear them.

After I’m fully vaccinated and masks are no longer required, I won’t wear them. Others will decide differently.

I believe the confusion in these posts comes from the context and connection between masks and the vaccine. It sounds like people are equating vaccine use and reducing mask use. But, they’re not related that way. The vaccine part of these doesn’t matter. Once no longer needed because spread is low, I wouldn’t expect many people to wear a mask.

It will be "not safe for some or all" forever most likely when talking about COVID. At some point it will be mostly people who choose not to be vaccinated.

There are some people (not saying you are one of them) who has an attitude that until everybody is 100% safe (i.e. SARS-CoV-2 is eradicated) that we must all take precautions and keep everybody "safe." Myself an many other people aren't going to do "mitigation" in perpetuity. Everybody is not safe from the flu and we don't really do anything to keep everybody safe from that so when the per capita deaths from COVID get into the same range as a bad flu season it is perfectly reasonable to stop all the "mitigation."

This is the better question. On one side of the equation is infection spread and impact, on the other is mitigation efforts to reduce spread. The vaccine is just one way to reduce spread. Masks are a way to reduce spread. As long as spread and impact are still high enough, all reduction techniques will be used.

Wide vaccine use should create a dramatic drop in spread. It should also reduce the impact. Once that happens, we'll see masks and other mitigation’s relaxed. Not because of the vaccine itself, but because of the reduction.

If we had reduced spread other ways, we could reduce mitigations then too. We didn’t need the vaccine to do it. Ignoring vaccine development, since most of us aren’t part of that, the vaccine is just the easiest way to reduce spread.

I don’t know what the correct level is, but it’s WAY below the current level today.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I’d also say cleaning practices and hand washing are more important. Seeing kids not touching each other all the time or wiping their noses on their desks I’m sure has an impact on less sickness in school.

Seasonal flu is down to almost nil...there are a few lessons to be learned here

 

[GoofGoof]

I believe the confusion in these posts comes from the context and connection between masks and the vaccine. It sounds like people are equating vaccine use and reducing mask use. But, they’re not related that way. The vaccine part of these doesn’t matter. Once no longer needed because spread is low, I wouldn’t expect many people to wear a mask.


This is the better question. On one side of the equation is infection spread and impact, on the other is mitigation efforts to reduce spread. The vaccine is just one way to reduce spread. Masks are a way to reduce spread. As long as spread and impact are still high enough, all reduction techniques will be used.

Wide vaccine use should create a dramatic drop in spread. It should also reduce the impact. Once that happens, we'll see masks and other mitigation’s relaxed. Not because of the vaccine itself, but because of the reduction.

If we had reduced spread other ways, we could reduce mitigations then too. We didn’t need the vaccine to do it. Ignoring vaccine development, since most of us aren’t part of that, the vaccine is just the easiest way to reduce spread.

I don’t know what the correct level is, but it’s WAY below the current level today.

Exactly. Vaccines result in lower spread and that results in relaxing the restrictions. There’s no magic date (like May 1) when masks become optional and it’s certainly not tied to when an individual gets vaccinated. Businesses and local/state governments will decide when the community spread is low enough. Anyone who thinks they won’t need to wear a mask anymore the day after they are vaccinated is likely going to be disappointed unless you happen to get your vaccine when they decide to change the requirements.

 

[DCBaker]

Current Florida vaccine report -

 

[sullyinMT]

Seasonal flu is down to almost nil...there are a few lessons to be learned here

Just as big, imo, regarding schools is the reduced class size where schools are open.

My boys are 13 and 10, so unfortunately it won’t be addressed meaningfully in their school career. But not cramming a bunch of runny nosed kids together for hours has to be having a meaningful effect in transmitting seasonal disease this winter.

 

[Disstevefan1]

Hmmm...

I actually agree with you completely. You feeling ok?

YaY! We agree! I am fine. Thanks for asking

 

[Polkadotdress]

Current Florida vaccine report -

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What’s the explanation for the difference btw total doses given (1.5M) and total people vaccinated (1.3M)?

 

[sullyinMT]

What’s the explanation for the difference btw total doses given (1.5M) and total people vaccinated (1.3M)?

Took me a couple days, too! Double “series complete,” and you’ll get the total doses administered.

HTH

 

[GoofGoof]

What’s the explanation for the difference btw total doses given (1.5M) and total people vaccinated (1.3M)?

Second dose

 

[Patcheslee]

If pharmacies start vaccinating , in PA it will surely be freezing to be standing outside waiting to get in. Bundle up!

These are my winter go to lol

They have ones for shoes as well

 

[GoofGoof]

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They have ones for shoes as well

My mom took the train to work every day back when she still worked and she had a friend who was on the same train who on cold days used to make 2 baked potatoes before she left for the train station and she’d hold them in her hands for warmth. Old school warmers. She would then heat them up again and eat the baked potatoes for lunch that day. This was before low carb diets were the trend . I’m not sure potatoes would work as well in your shoes

I’ve tried the warmers like the ones above. They work really well for a football games or somewhere that you are standing still.

 

[DisneyCane]

Current Florida vaccine report -

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Taking into account reporting delays, I wouldn't be surprised if at least 1 million seniors age 65 and over have received at least one dose. That would be around 20% of the most vulnerable population (by age) in FL.

 

[dreday3]

Exactly. Vaccines result in lower spread and that results in relaxing the restrictions. There’s no magic date (like May 1) when masks become optional and it’s certainly not tied to when an individual gets vaccinated. Businesses and local/state governments will decide when the community spread is low enough. Anyone who thinks they won’t need to wear a mask anymore the day after they are vaccinated is likely going to be disappointed unless you happen to get your vaccine when they decide to change the requirements.

Holy bananas. I never said I won't need a mask when I get my second dose. And yes I'll assume these posts are partly about me since I was one of the main parties in the conversation that these posts are referring to.

Does anyone actually read other people's posts or do they just post dissertations of all their knowledge?

I'm not a moron. I never thought that I could stop wearing a mask when I was vaccinated. I dont know how many ways I can say that obviously we have to wait until cases drop, spread slows. All I said was that if all I needed was the vaccine and I could stop wearing the mask, I would be comfortable doing so as I trust the vaccine. Not that it would actually happen like that in reality.

Good lord.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Taking into account reporting delays, I wouldn't be surprised if at least 1 million seniors age 65 and over have received at least one dose. That would be around 20% of the most vulnerable population (by age) in FL.

So slow as **** Then?

 

[CatesMom]

I don't know that was really the case for quite some time. I haven't toured every school in the USA, but elementary students often get/got a work folder when they are/were absent. Email has been available for well over 20 years in most schools, and phones go back....a long time. At every level, contacting a teacher is usually just a matter of making a phone call or sending an email.

Some schools also have a policy of excusing assignments when a student is absent, especially if it is like a lab or something that would be hard to make up. Like swimming or volleyball in PE, also art and labs. Hard to make up a volleyball or tennis game by yourself at home.

In the case of long term illness/disabilities schools have to send a tutor/home visit teacher.

I don't know the online lesson will work in every case going forward. Again, PE comes to mind.

That said, I think snow days may well have effectively become obsolete.

Snow days are a distant memory at my daughter's private school, which currently operates five days a week brick and mortar. The snow day plan was in place before this year, but it has come in very handy the couple of times school has closed due to potential COVID exposures. (Fortunately, the school is following strict COVID protocols, engaging in extensive contact-tracing in conjunction with the local health agency, and we have not identified any in-school transmission.).

At the beginning of the year, teachers distributed a matrix of "snow day" assignments for each class. Work requirements kick in the second and sequential days of weather closures. All assignments are due a week after the initial closure. And yes, there are P.E., art, and music class assignments, along with core subjects. The kids used the matrix for one day this week before switching to synchronous virtual classes.

Completing snow day work qualifies as a school day, so no makeups tacked on to the end of the year. All the better for planning a Disney getaway!

 

[Brer Oswald]

It’s not looking likely that I will be able to visit the parks this year. And I’m not sure I want to visit after this year. 2019 might’ve been the best send off to myself and WDW.

Oh well. I suppose there’s always Disneyland... I hope.