Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

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FeelsSoGoodToBeBad

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Combination of luck and knowing someone. A friend mentioned that their pharmacy had been administering the extra (already opened) doses to older folks (65+) or those with underlying conditions, but the trick is you needed to be there with your sleeve up within the hour. I told them (half jokingly) that I'd take one of those extra doses and I could provide prescriptions for hypertension and cholesterol. They ended up texting me that they had some available and I was able to leave work and get it. They mentioned they'd pretty much vaccinated all the medical workers and those over 75 who wanted the vaccine, but a lot of people either 1) didn't want it or 2) wanted to wait and see what happened to other people. They said based on what they're seeing, it'll be widely available sooner than later just due to the number of people who are hesitant.
Where are you located again and what pharmacy is following this model? :)
 

James J

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You've tried to understand the nature of the human species being the social animal that they are, but are no longer willing to accept that people don't want to be apart from each other and will reach a breaking point?
How long do you want kids to not play?
It's an essential part of development.
Young people to not socialize, and find love interests?
Old people - and I l know many of them - who want to get on with their lives, see their grandchildren, go to the park, shop... even at the risk of cutting their own lives short.

You're helping to prove what @ParkerLoLsis saying. The more people do these things and don't bother following social distancing protocols, the more time it will be until the world can get back to normal and socialise as we did before despite the vaccines being rolled out. We're all fed up but I don't want to go around meeting people and risk spreading a disease I don't have symptoms for to somebody else, who could then pass it onto a vulnerable person who ends up in hospital or dies. That's how these things work.

It's why we're now in a third lockdown in the UK. Our government's incompetency is obviously a major contributor, but people don't follow the rules, cases fly up and unfortunately people pass away. I've seen my parents a handful of times since last March, and I've seen my friends in person once. My wife fully moved from the USA to the UK right before the UK first locked down and we can't get back to the USA to see her parents. It sucks and we missed out on a Christmas in the US as well as taking my parents to WDW for the first time since 2002, but it's what has to be done. I just wish everyone thought like that.
 

Disney Experience

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Combination of luck and knowing someone. A friend mentioned that their pharmacy had been administering the extra (already opened) doses to older folks (65+) or those with underlying conditions, but the trick is you needed to be there with your sleeve up within the hour. I told them (half jokingly) that I'd take one of those extra doses and I could provide prescriptions for hypertension and cholesterol. They ended up texting me that they had some available and I was able to leave work and get it. They mentioned they'd pretty much vaccinated all the medical workers and those over 75 who wanted the vaccine, but a lot of people either 1) didn't want it or 2) wanted to wait and see what happened to other people. They said based on what they're seeing, it'll be widely available sooner than later just due to the number of people who are hesitant.
The funny thing is that those choosing to wait will likely get a less effective and (initially) more recently EUA vaccine ( JnJ or Astrazeneca) when they do. They probably do not realize that all covid vaccine are not the same or have same probability of side effects.
 

Incomudro

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You're helping to prove what @ParkerLoLsis saying. The more people do these things and don't bother following social distancing protocols, the more time it will be until the world can get back to normal and socialise as we did before despite the vaccines being rolled out. We're all fed up but I don't want to go around meeting people and risk spreading a disease I don't have symptoms for to somebody else, who could then pass it onto a vulnerable person who ends up in hospital or dies. That's how these things work.

It's why we're now in a third lockdown in the UK. Our government's incompetency is obviously a major contributor, but people don't follow the rules, cases fly up and unfortunately people pass away. I've seen my parents a handful of times since last March, and I've seen my friends in person once. My wife fully moved from the USA to the UK right before the UK first locked down and we can't get back to the USA to see her parents. It sucks and we missed out on a Christmas in the US as well as taking my parents to WDW for the first time since 2002, but it's what has to be done. I just wish everyone thought like that.

That's life, or... Life uh, finds a way.
The human species will only be confined for so long.
Damned the possible consequences.
 

Kevin_W

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I think the manpower is there, as the article posted earlier said, we do 3M flu shots a day at peak time so it’s possible to do it if we have the doses.
Right, and that 3M doesn't utilize much of the hospital manpower that we have available for giving shots, nor much in the way of scheduling/logistics. I don't think available bodies to inject is a major showstopper, it's the rest of the logistics. Much like the conversations about Disneyland, in addition to groceries and such around here next Tuesday they are starting vaccinations at the basketball arena. huge parking and lots of floor space. Hopefully that speeds things up having a central site.
 

Kevin_W

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GoofGoof

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Right, and that 3M doesn't utilize much of the hospital manpower that we have available for giving shots, nor much in the way of scheduling/logistics. I don't think available bodies to inject is a major showstopper, it's the rest of the logistics. Much like the conversations about Disneyland, in addition to groceries and such around here next Tuesday they are starting vaccinations at the basketball arena. huge parking and lots of floor space. Hopefully that speeds things up having a central site.
I hope the money allocated helps with logistics. It’s easy to add headcount for more phone operators, people to direct traffic, people to track vaccinations and schedule appointments. That’s stuff where people can be trained pretty quickly. We have millions still unemployed and underemployed who would be glad to have a paying job or some extra income.
 

hopemax

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I hope the money allocated helps with logistics. It’s easy to add headcount for more phone operators, people to direct traffic, people to track vaccinations and schedule appointments. That’s stuff where people can be trained pretty quickly. We have millions still unemployed and underemployed who would be glad to have a paying job or some extra income.
Pandemic / health care version of the WPA and CCC.
 

Parker in NYC

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You've tried to understand the nature of the human species being the social animal that they are, but are no longer willing to accept that people don't want to be apart from each other and will reach a breaking point?
How long do you want kids to not play?
It's an essential part of development.
Young people to not socialize, and find love interests?
Old people - and I l know many of them - who want to get on with their lives, see their grandchildren, go to the park, shop... even at the risk of cutting their own lives short.
Stop asking questions and answer them yourself. Obviously, you’re throwing ultimatums around instead of speaking for yourself.
 

Parker in NYC

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Yes I have insurance and savings. I also quarantined before leaving. I didn’t want to accidentally spread covid at all. Wore a mask during travel, cooked our own meals or did Togo rather then eating inside. Did not visit any bars or clubs or indoor gatherings. But I know many can’t; they have to work, get kids to school, etc. so it’s just not feasible to quarantine. I mean I suppose you could take a rapid test but then there are accuracy issues (which is why I did a PCR swab test when I got home rather then the free rapid; tested negative)

I’m fortunate but I know others aren’t. It’s very tough. But in the end, yes if you can’t or aren’t willing take the responsible measures then no you shouldn’t travel. I apologize if that seems hypocritical or “what’s good for the goose”. :(
You are completely following the best practices. I just am concerned about human nature (as displayed in this thread) negating the good that folks like you are doing. Obviously, based on the numbers, the stupid are winning. Or rather, losing.
 

DisneyCane

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I think the reporting delays make the percentage of doses (in all States, not just FL) look worse than it really is. Based on this report, FL has injected 1,024,704 doses and the latest from the CDC says FL got 2,069,175 doses (CDC doesn't update on weekends). This report says FL has used 49.5% of all doses on hand but the CDC data says 41.2%. I can't guarantee much but I can pretty much guarantee that FL didn't inject almost 172,000 doses yesterday so I think that more have been injected than the CDC reports by several percent and I'd expect that to be true in every state.
 
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