Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[Touchdown]

I’m sorry why are we now talking about nutrition and obesity in the Covid thread again?

 

[DisneyDebRob]

I’m sorry why are we now talking about nutrition and obesity in the Covid thread again?

Putting down my eclair to get back on topic here....
Well here’s some great news.. the flu is down 98% throughout the country. 98%! Most experts are saying it’s from less international travel.. and more people then ever washing their hands.. and masks. Hopefully, when this whole thing is over, ww keep these habits.. more the hand washing then the masks.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Putting down my eclair to get back on topic here....
Well here’s some great news.. the flu is down 98% throughout the country. 98%! Most experts are saying it’s from less international travel.. and more people then ever washing their hands.. and masks. Hopefully, when this whole thing is over with these habits.. more the hand washing then the masks, stay with us.

I thought that might happen...based on no medical knowledge whatsoever.

You’d think that the general cleaning/personal hygiene would eliminate much of the seasonal flu?

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Because some think that's the only major type of person dying from it or having severe cases. Saw a hint that race matters too. The rest who are not obese and are white will be just fine /sarcasm

Personally I think it's deflection to ignore real issues at hand.

Those that have been saying “at risk” are telling themselves what they want to hear so they can do what they want. I’m no genius...but I understood from the start that transmission/carriers, unknown longterm effects and the lack of known treatments and mitigation were the problems.

Which means everyone should being do the exact same things. We’re all “at risk” to ourselves and others by definition.

Which means cutting out the stupidity...like flying for Christmas...needs to not be optional anymore. A few months, ya babies

 

[Touchdown]

You’ve gotta take your medicine (vaccine) before you can go out and play (travel for vacation.)

 

[Polkadotdress]

Putting down my eclair to get back on topic here....
Well here’s some great news.. the flu is down 98% throughout the country. 98%! Most experts are saying it’s from less international travel.. and more people then ever washing their hands.. and masks. Hopefully, when this whole thing is over, ww keep these habits.. more the hand washing then the masks.

Careful when you say this, as the hard-core anti-Covid deniers will quickly point out sarcastically that this can't be true if Covid is rampant.

The memes on Facebook usually say something like this:
"If the CDC says that the flu is nonexistent this year due to masks and social distancing...but the CDC also says that Covid is out of control because no one is wearing masks or social distancing. Which is it???"

 

[MisterPenguin]

Remember when there was proud boasting that FL got its positivity under 5%?

Great time to be in the Orlando area for the holidays!

I'm sure the spike in hospitalizations and deaths are just from motorcycle accidents.

Tell me not to go to Halloween parties, or visit families on Thanksgiving and Christmas?! The nerve!!

Q: When was the absolute worse time to go to WDW during the pandemic?

A: Christmas week.... so far.

 

[Disney Experience]

The urban plan of EPCOT was not really all that new. It’s emphasis on the pedestrian definitely would have helped to provide a base level of daily activity but it’s enclosed downtown and utilitidors probably would have been a nightmare for COVID.

Yes, I did wonder about the enclosed area being a nightmare. But it the air circulation was filtered well and had the equivalent of the Reme Halo air sanitization system I had installed years ago in my home ventilation system, the viral load in the enclosed area might be low. Pure speculation on my part.

Epcot would have had a lot of shared spaces, except for it’s outlying sub burbs, but they too would have been drawn towards the enclosed city center.

 

[GoofGoof]

I don’t see why Disney doesn’t do what a couple restaurants with buffets near where I live did: make buffets cafeteria-style. Put plexiglass on the customer side and have employees plate up the food as you walk through the line, then hand you the plate when finished. Yes, it’d require more employees to work per shift than what they’re using now. However, with the prices they charge, it shouldn’t be an issue. (When I was there in 2017, I saw that Chef Mickey’s dinner buffet was over $50 per adult.)

I think that’s a possible long term answer. If they go that route some of the buffets need to be physically reconfigured to allow servers behind the stations. It’s a relatively cheap change overall but I think they may wait until we see how the wind blows on buffets overall. If they start popping back up everywhere then Disney will likely bring them back since you get a large number of diners through quickly with less labor costs since food is not prepped to order or served by a waiter. If buffets are slow to return in society at large Disney will probably either pivot to family style and/or add servers behind the dishes. I think in either of those scenarios the variety of food decreases and due to the extra cost of labor either food quality drops or price goes up. They are already expensive so it’s a tough call.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Careful when you say this, as the hard-core anti-Covid deniers will quickly point out sarcastically that this can't be true if Covid is rampant.

The memes on Facebook usually say something like this:
"If the CDC says that the flu is nonexistent this year due to masks and social distancing...but the CDC also says that Covid is out of control because no one is wearing masks or social distancing. Which is it???"

It absolutely can...because the flu is mostly transmitted by surface contact and it’s NOT THE FLU!!!

Or heart disease

Or cancer

Or jet ski fatalities

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

The topic of this thread is COVID-19 and WDW, but again this sounds like the same ”seemingly contradictory data renders all data unreliable” line of thinking that others continue to use to minimize the need for pandemic responses.

The links you shared show that what we’ve learned more about things like fat (the difference between trans fats, saturated fat, etc) and cholesterol (the difference between good HDL and bad LDL) has provided further clarity as to specific effects these things have on our health.

In the same way, the more we learn about the coronavirus, the better we’re able to discern the risks and how to mitigate them. We’ve discovered that things like indoor dining carries a high risk of transmission relative to things like waiting in outdoor attraction queues. WDW has tried to implement measures to reduce these risks, and the more we learn, the better Disney is able to invest in things that can truly keep people safe.

Learning more is always better. Nuance and detail might seem like contradiction, but if we’re willing to suffer the complexity, the data can help us make better choices.

Exactly...more telling yourself what’s convenient based on what you want to do anyway

 

[Polkadotdress]

It absolutely can...because the flu is mostly transmitted by surface contact and it’s NOT THE FLU!!!

Or heart disease

Or cancer

Or jet ski fatalities

Right!!

I’ve got a cousin who posts stuff like this. Every. Single. Day.

She’s family, but sheesh!

 

[Disstevefan1]

Putting down my eclair to get back on topic here....
Well here’s some great news.. the flu is down 98% throughout the country. 98%! Most experts are saying it’s from less international travel.. and more people then ever washing their hands.. and masks. Hopefully, when this whole thing is over, ww keep these habits.. more the hand washing then the masks.

After it’s over, We can hope folks come out of this more self aware; hand washing, surface cleaning, touching their face less, less casual hand shaking and hugging and staying home, staying away from others when sick etc.

As for masks, (after this is over) it would be great if at least folks that are sick that can’t stay home wear masks. Not so sure masks will catch on long term in the US like they have in Asia for example..

Only time can tell..

 

[GoofGoof]

After it’s over, We can hope folks come out of this more self aware; hand washing, surface cleaning, touching their face less, less casual hand shaking and hugging and staying home, staying away from others when sick etc.

As for masks, (after this is over) it would be great if at least folks that are sick that can’t stay home wear masks. Not so sure masks will catch on long term in the US like they have in Asia for example..

Only time can tell..

To add to that I would hope that the federal or state governments also mandate businesses provide paid time off for all employees who are sick. One of the main reasons I hear people say they go to work sick is that they can’t afford time off without pay or they don’t want to waste their vacation time. With schools there’s a similar issue. A lot of districts are very punitive for students being absent because they have to reach certain minimum attendance levels to get full federal funding. I would hope that school districts see between the end of last year and this year that it’s better for sick kids to stay home even if it means relaxing attendance requirements.

 

[Lilofan]

When I was a rower in university, we had a work-out called the "dirty dozens". One minute rowing as hard and fast as possible, followed by a minute of another less-intense exercise. Repeat times 12.

It was the only time I've ever puked immediately after an exercise.

Usually losing your lunch happened in the August hot and humid two-a-days practices in the afternoon sessions where the coaches and seniors dictated the practices with an iron hand.

 

[SamusAranX]

Currently in the midst of my first precaution-laden (and boy is the list a doozy) pandemic travel experience. Will have more to post later.

As for Florida’s numbers rising, people better buckle up. There will be no restrictions reimplemented barring a 180 from the state government.

 

[Incomudro]

Unless it's the Covid virus that ends up "getting" into their body, right?

Your body is better able to handle that covid virus if you've taken care of your body.
That is the entire point I'm trying to make.

 

[MickeyLuv'r]

Nevermind, someone else beat me to it.

 

[DCBaker]

Numbers are out - there were *97 new reported deaths, along with 3 Non-Florida Resident deaths.

*189 was incorrect - 97 is the correct number.

 

[DisneyDebRob]

Numbers are out - there were 189 new reported deaths, along with 3 Non-Florida Resident deaths.

I will fix the format in an hour or so if it doesn’t display correctly.

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Not good at all. Just riding the wave it looks like and not try anything.. vaccines are coming is the thinking?