Rumor Disney To Remove "Magic Carpets Of Aladdin"

[the.dreamfinder]

CONFIRMED: In 2022, they will be opening a fifth gate. Official name: Chapekland. It will contain only merchandise locations.

And don’t forget about the timeshares!

 

[drizgirl]

CONFIRMED: In 2022, they will be opening a fifth gate. Official name: Chapekland. It will contain only merchandise locations.

That's so November 2020. They called it Buena Vista Street.

 

[tirian]

I like the Flying Carpet spinner, it's great for little kids and gives you a nice view to that part of the park, I just think the ride itself looks terrible. The 90's cartoony look of it doesn't fit in with the "naturalistic, 1970's, jungle/tiki bar" vibe of Adventureland... kind of like if they turned WDW's Splash Mountain into a New Orleans theme? wouldn't really fit in with the old west stuff around it.

I would hope/believe they would change how the Flying Carpets look, The Star Jets became The Astro Orbiter and Dumbo had at least 2 other versions/looks at WDW. If it had some darker colors and looked more like the Cave of Wonders, surrounded by treasure and jewels, I think it would fit in better with the Jungle look of Adventureland, much better than that boring, beige "dessert look" it has now.

...and if they pulled the "Song of The South" characters out of WDW's Splash Mountain and replaced them with "The America Sings" Sam Eagle, Ollie Owl, Rock n Roll Stork, and all the characters in Disneyland's Splash Mountain, I'd be fine with Splash Mountain becoming "America Sings the Ride". I like the look of the scenes in the ride more than the individual characters.

Most people seem to like "The Theme" of the lands in Magic Kingdom, don't know why Disney doesn't seem to get that before they change or add something to the park. Disneyland is like a Flea Market of different IPs, but Disney World is about the themed world/lands/environments and stepping into an immersive experience

Over the years, I’ve known people who prefer the MK over DL for that exact reason: even though DL had more rides, it felt like a well-themed local park compared to the MK, which actually felt like a real place. The recent Toonification is destroying this vibe, and I don’t understand why WDI and Disney leadership don’t comprehend their own product...AT ALL.

WDW became the world’s most-visited and most-loved resort without preschool-friendly-marketing-toy crap cluttering everything.

 

[JoeCamel]

Over the years, I’ve known people who prefer the MK over DL for that exact reason: even though DL had more rides, it felt like a well-themed local park compared to the MK, which actually felt like a real place. The recent Toonification is destroying this vibe, and I don’t understand why WDI and Disney leadership don’t comprehend their own product...AT ALL.

WDW became the world’s most-visited and most-loved resort without preschool-friendly-marketing-toy crap cluttering everything.

Just a cow to be milked now

 

[marni1971]

WDW became the world’s most-visited and most-loved resort without preschool-friendly-marketing-toy crap cluttering everything.

And now that’s the mandate for anything new in Orlando.

 

[HauntedPirate]

Over the years, I’ve known people who prefer the MK over DL for that exact reason: even though DL had more rides, it felt like a well-themed local park compared to the MK, which actually felt like a real place. The recent Toonification is destroying this vibe, and I don’t understand why WDI and Disney leadership don’t comprehend their own product...AT ALL.

WDW became the world’s most-visited and most-loved resort without preschool-friendly-marketing-toy crap cluttering everything.

Probably because it's a bunch of non-descript, non-IP-themed stuff in a swamp or something.

DL has charm. MK... not as much anymore. No one at the top of TWDC has understood why or what makes their theme parks so popular in 20+ years. Even Eisner forgot about it.

 

[Model3 McQueen]

This is clearly an incorrect rumor. Disney would only replace Aladdin with Captain Marvel's Flight Academy.

 

[MisterPenguin]

This is clearly an incorrect rumor. Disney would only replace Aladdin with Captain Marvel's Flight Academy.

This is Adventureland.

It's going to be Indy's Snakes on a Plane.

 

[TiggerDad]

I wonder what the hourly capacity would be for one of those modular rock-climbing towers.

The one at EPCOT has pretty low capacity:

 

[yensidtlaw1969]

Over the years, I’ve known people who prefer the MK over DL for that exact reason: even though DL had more rides, it felt like a well-themed local park compared to the MK, which actually felt like a real place. The recent Toonification is destroying this vibe, and I don’t understand why WDI and Disney leadership don’t comprehend their own product...AT ALL.

WDW became the world’s most-visited and most-loved resort without preschool-friendly-marketing-toy crap cluttering everything.

You'd think it'd be at least decently apparent that MK's Main Street, Adventureland, Frontierland, Liberty Square, and Tomorrowland all maintained outstanding popularity over their first 30-40 years operating pretty exclusively on properties developed just for the parks. As if that's some sort of coincidence.

Swiss Family Robinson Treehouse notwithstanding, Splash Mountain was really the first prominent example in the MK of Film Properties extending their infrastructural reach beyond Fantasyland. Splash was of course a big hit, but it's not like the non-Fantasylands were limping along before.

It seems telling to me that the first 15 years of Hong Kong Disneyland, with its greater emphasis on Toonification, has not come close to replicating the success of the first 15 years of Disneyland, the MK, or even EPCOT. They wonder why their new parks aren't the cultural phenomenons that the first parks were, yet make no effort to build them out in any similar fashion.

 

[Animaniac93-98]

You'd think it'd be at least decently apparent that MK's Main Street, Adventureland, Frontierland, Liberty Square, and Tomorrowland all maintained outstanding popularity over their first 30-40 years operating pretty exclusively on properties developed just for the parks. As if that's some sort of coincidence.

Swiss Family Robinson Treehouse notwithstanding, Splash Mountain was really the first prominent example in the MK of Film Properties extending their infrastructural reach beyond Fantasyland. Splash was of course a big hit, but it's not like the non-Fantasylands were limping along before.

It seems telling to me that the first 15 years of Hong Kong Disneyland, with its greater emphasis on Toonification, has not come close to replicating the success of the first 15 years of Disneyland, the MK, or even EPCOT. They wonder why their new parks aren't the cultural phenomenons that the first parks were, yet make no effort to build them out in any similar fashion.

Disney Studios Paris is nothing but IP rides and it's the worst attended of any of their parks. Despite the increase in IP, DCA continues to lag behind Disneyland and EPCOT pre-Chapek.

 

[Animaniac93-98]

You'd think it'd be at least decently apparent that MK's Main Street, Adventureland, Frontierland, Liberty Square, and Tomorrowland all maintained outstanding popularity over their first 30-40 years operating pretty exclusively on properties developed just for the parks. As if that's some sort of coincidence.

We're familiar with the park's history and like the product. That can not be said of the people in charge.

It's like the first theme park they ever visited was Universal Studios and wondered why Disney was not like that.

 

[yensidtlaw1969]

Disney Studios Paris is nothing but IP rides and it's the worst attended of any of their parks. Despite the increase in IP, DCA continues to lag behind Disneyland and EPCOT pre-Chapek.

It's almost like people LIKE when the parks give them more than they thought to expect from them.

Weird.

Someone should make that their business model.

 

[Jrb1979]

Disney Studios Paris is nothing but IP rides and it's the worst attended of any of their parks. Despite the increase in IP, DCA continues to lag behind Disneyland and EPCOT pre-Chapek.

Who would have thought just slapping on IP on a ride doesn't draw people in. The parks were at their best when they had original attractions and not everything was IP based.

 

[yensidtlaw1969]

And for the record, I don't have a problem with IP infusion into the parks conceptually, it's really all how it's done. You'll never see me complain about Peter Pan or Beauty and the Beast being featured in Fantasyland. Wanting to integrate the Pirates of the Caribbean films into the Pirates of the Caribbean ride is a natural and understandable impulse (though I have issues with how they did it).

But the scale is totally off-balance these days - the parks were at their best in basically every sense when the scale tipped towards original concepts with a smattering of attractions based on Movie Properties, and the parks that have never had that sort of balance have never had the same level of creative, cultural, or financial success.

You'd think someone up in management would have caught on by now.

 

[lazyboy97o]

And for the record, I don't have a problem with IP infusion into the parks conceptually, it's really all how it's done. You'll never see me complain about Peter Pan or Beauty and the Beast being featured in Fantasyland. Wanting to integrate the Pirates of the Caribbean films into the Pirates of the Caribbean ride is a natural and unstandable impulse (though I have issues with how they did it).

But the scale is totally off-balance these days - the parks were at their best in basically every sense when the scale tipped towards original concepts with a smattering of attractions based on Movie Properties, and the parks that have never had that sort of balance have never had the same level of creative, cultural, or financial success.

You'd think someone up in management would have caught on by now.

It’s not even an issue of looking at history. Just the “best for business” mentality should have demanded at least an attempt to replicate the HUGE success of Expedition Everest but instead such projects were forbidden.

 

[yensidtlaw1969]

It’s not even an issue of looking at history. Just the “best for business” mentality should have demanded at least an attempt to replicate the HUGE success of Expedition Everest but instead such projects were forbidden.

That's stunning.

They had every reason to at least CONSIDER that kind of project.

 

[lazyboy97o]

That's stunning.

They had every reason to at least CONSIDER that kind of project.

Even more stunning is that when you consider how much costs have spiraled out of control, Expedition Everest is probably the best return on investment to open at Walt Disney World since Eisner’s departure.

 

[Animaniac93-98]

You'd think someone up in management would have caught on by now.

I posted Chapek's Disney background in another thread and most of it relates to home video. The thing he's most comfortable with is selling Disney movies...and look at what his parks strategy is.

Iger's background was in television. Other execs have retail, marketing or brand management experience.

They stick with what they know. Disney makes movies and toys, so that's what their parks should be about right? People keep paying to come so we must be doing a good job? They don't stay for very long either, so what happens 5 years from now is never given much thought. We've had 4 heads of parks and resorts since 2005.

That's why they never lean WHY people come. Or how to handle changes in attendance, or keep costs down...and that was before COVID.

 

[Animaniac93-98]

Even more stunning is that when you consider how much costs have spiraled out of control, Expedition Everest is probably the best return on investment to open at Walt Disney World since Eisner’s departure.

It was also the last to be green lit by him. Even in his final days, he knew enough about the parks to know that the combination of roller coaster + mountain had been successful for the company since 1959.