Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[techgeek]

I still wonder why Florida includes that non-resident caveat. I don't routinely browse the stats for all 50 states, but on the 5 or so I regularly check, only Florida makes the distinction between resident and non-resident deaths.

I don’t have a source to cite, but I seem to remember back in the beginning there was an implication it was so the state could present the better looking lower ‘resident’ number. Our Governor didn’t want to ‘own’ non-resident deaths. Could have sworn I saw almost that as a quote from him.

Of course, that was back when we could still count deaths in the state on two hands, it doesn’t really read well however you cut the numbers now.

 

[JoeCamel]

I don’t have a source to cite, but I seem to remember back in the beginning there was an implication it was so the state could present the better looking lower ‘resident’ number. Our Governor didn’t want to ‘own’ non-resident deaths. Could have sworn I saw almost that as a quote from him.

Of course, that was back when we could still count deaths in the state on two hands, it doesn’t really read well however you cut the numbers now.

Cosigned. That is how I understand it as well.

 

[GoofGoof]

I don’t have a source to cite, but I seem to remember back in the beginning there was an implication it was so the state could present the better looking lower ‘resident’ number. Our Governor didn’t want to ‘own’ non-resident deaths. Could have sworn I saw almost that as a quote from him.

Of course, that was back when we could still count deaths in the state on two hands, it doesn’t really read well however you cut the numbers now.

Back in the “this is just a NY problem” phase when all of the cases in FL were blamed on New Yorkers coming into the state.

 

[techgeek]

Back in the “this is just a NY problem” phase when all of the cases in FL were blamed on New Yorkers coming into the state.

... and people wonder why we had to keep dragging politics into this thread.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I think there is an erroneous assumption from those who believe in this line of thinking that vulnerable/high-risk people are only elderly, white-haired people in care homes. As you well know, and articulated above that they can’t be clearly identified, that they span all ages, and even look like me: a vivacious middle-aged Mom.

...how “vivacious” are we talking?

I still wonder why Florida includes that non-resident caveat. I don't routinely browse the stats for all 50 states, but on the 5 or so I regularly check, only Florida makes the distinction between resident and non-resident deaths.

To have a boogeyman to blame...I would guess. Having more “outs” when you’re incompetent always helps

 

[Parker in NYC]

Back in the “this is just a NY problem” phase when all of the cases in FL were blamed on New Yorkers coming into the state.

Louder for the folks in the front. I'd say the back but they're usually in the front.

 

[Patcheslee]

I still wonder why Florida includes that non-resident caveat. I don't routinely browse the stats for all 50 states, but on the 5 or so I regularly check, only Florida makes the distinction between resident and non-resident deaths.

I thought it may have something to do with workers that don't hold FL residency when they first started reporting. Like cruise workers, seasonal, ect. Now I'm not so sure.

 

[Polkadotdress]

...how “vivacious” are we talking?

I am a perpetually happy, “GO TEAM” kind of person.

 

[Polkadotdress]

I thought it may have something to do with workers that don't hold FL residency when they first started reporting. Like cruise workers, seasonal, ect. Now I'm not so sure.

Also snowbirds, who consider Florida their temporary residence from NOV-MAR each year.

 

[DCBaker]

 

[MisterPenguin]

Well, greater Miami area, you're doing well... comparatively. But look at that panhandle, bubba...

 

[MisterPenguin]

The USA...

Thanksgiving with 20 people is so much more important than overloading the hospitals of 17 states... so many of them 'red.'

 

[oceanbreeze77]

1000 deaths on a Monday is not good.

 

[lazyboy97o]

I’m not assuming anything about the vulnerable population. If you simply look at death rates around the world, it’s nowhere near 60%. Even knowing it might not be infecting the vulnerable population as much thats a ridiculous number.

It’s not dead people who are filling up hospitals.

You guys keep asking “how it would work”. It’s not a mystery. The groups that need to avoid the public because they’re vulnerable or support a vulnerable family member isolate in the same exact way they would if the government tells everyone to stay home.

It’s not anywhere close to the same. If everyone is severely limiting person-to-person contact then when one does have to have contact they are interacting with people who have also limited their interactions. Self-isolating is pointless if you’re dependent on people who are hanging out at the bar every night.

 

[Parker in NYC]

I’m just exhausted by all of it. Anyone need a drink(s) from the bar?

 

[JoeCamel]

Lockdowns work 89k per day down to 4.5K

 

[Mr Ferret 75]

Lockdowns work 89k per day down to 4.5K

Problem is you need the whole country to act as one.

 

[JoeCamel]

Problem is you need the whole country to act as one.

Or a leader that can convince the people it is the right path along with enough national unity to carry the action to completion.

 

[Mr Ferret 75]

Or a leader that can convince the people it is the right path along with enough national unity to carry the action to completion.

I don't think one exists.

 

[DCBaker]

"Australia’s largest airline, Qantas, is planning to make coronavirus vaccines compulsory — when they become available — for passengers who want to fly internationally, and its chief executive predicted that other airlines would follow.

Alan Joyce, the head of Qantas, said on Monday that the airline was looking at changing its terms and conditions to make vaccines compulsory for those traveling into or out of Australia.

He also said he believed vaccinations as a condition for international air travel would be mandated by more airlines: “I’ve talked to my colleagues at other airlines across the globe, and I think it’s going to be a common theme across the board.”

He said airlines and governments around the world have considered developing an electronic vaccination passport that would certify if passengers were vaccinated and with what vaccine. Mr. Joyce’s comments coincided with an announcement by the International Air Transport Association that it was in the final stages of developing a digital health pass that would provide travelers’ testing and vaccine information to governments and airlines."

Thanksgiving Travel Drops as Americans Rethink Rituals (Published 2020)

The leader of France says the country is past the peak of its second Covid-19 wave. A surge in California is shattering records. Pennsylvania bans alcohol sales past 5 p.m. on Wednesday, in a bid to stop pre-Thanksgiving partying.

www.nytimes.com