LittleBuford
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Absolutely. If it ever was a serious plan, I’m glad it’s been cancelled.
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Absolutely. If it ever was a serious plan, I’m glad it’s been cancelled.
I never said the countries governments had to step up. Morocco is the only pavilion where the government was directly involved in the spending and the Kingdom of Morocco's involvement is the reason all the little details are right. The other countries stepped up with their businesses with the exception of China and Canada. Disney has never really viewed World Showcase as Disney spending mostly Disney money to highlight other countries. It has always been about getting interest in other countries to spend the majority of the money.Others can correct me if I’m wrong (I don’t pretend to be a WDW history buff), but of the nine original pavilions, apparently not a single one was paid for by a government:
Yesterland: Two Myths about World Showcase at Epcot
www.yesterland.com
Original sponsors (as quoted from the linked article):
The American Adventure: American Express, Coca Cola
Canada: (no participant)
United Kingdom: Bass Export Ltd., Pringle of Scotland, Royal Doulton
France: Barton & Guestier (B&G), Guye Larouche, Lanson Champagne, The France Chefs (Paul Bocuse, Gaston Lenôtre, Roger Vergé, and Associate Didier Fouret)
Japan: Mitsukoshi, Inc.
Italy: Alfredo, The Original of Rome, Brolio/Ricasoli & Bersano Wines of Italy
Germany: Bahlsen, Brauerei Back and Co., Goebel, Hutschenreuther, Schmitt Söhne
China: (no participant)
Mexico: Moctezuma Brewery, San Angel Inn
Epcot82Guy
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Ah - thanks for clarifying! I think I flexed on that story line arc awhile ago. (For example, I'm ok with things like Test Track, Soarin', etc.) I think focusing all attractions on educating about the applicable culture could be too restrictive. But, Epcot should remain fundamentally about things in the real world - and inspire (in some way) through that mechanism. So, something like a Matterhorn-esque Fuji coaster feels in line still.
Parker in NYC
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In a way, Denmark has been represented since opening day.
The restrooms that were eventually incorporated into the Norway pavilion were originally intended to be part of a future Denmark pavilion. The free-standing structure opened with the park in 1982; by the time the opened in 1988, the pavilion's concept had morphed from Denmark into an amalgamated Scandinavia, before finally settling on Norway by itself.
Retro Neverworlds – The Lost Potties Of Denmark
How do you tell a Disney nerd? This is how. So, at the Theme Park Review site, they have this swell thread about early EPCOT Center. Of course, its swellness is enhanced by the fact that it says ni…progresscityusa.com
The facility was remodeled and expanded when the Frozen meet & greet was added. The men's restroom still occupies the original "Denmark" pavilion building, while the women's restroom was moved into the new building next door.
This makes me so sad that I missed it (not the bathrooms, of course)! I wonder if my family saw it in the years before I was born (I'm the youngest by a lot). I know they made regular trips to WDW. Sadly, all I remember was seeing a teddy bear and a keychain at some point in the perfume and expensive sweater shop. Now, I suppose, a Frozen whatever.
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ELG13
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I mean come on man. Is it really that hard to just NOT for a little bit. I swear to God, professional athletes are some of the most ignorant people.
doctornick
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Also, Germany as a pavilion was built at a time when there was not a unified German state. It wasn't build as "West Germany" for example. Granted, that's a less extreme situation.
the.dreamfinder
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tirian
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Ah, you misunderstood. I was comparing it to the idea of Wakanda and joking about how there were once bigger plans than a hut with a Coke machine.
LittleBuford
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I understood what you meant.
Personally, I’m glad the Equatorial Africa pavilion was never built. Yes, it would have been more fitting than a hut, but it also would have been more difficult to fix or replace. Disney’s priority should be to devote the next pavilion (whenever it is built) to an actual sub-Saharan African country.
UNCgolf
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I think there's an easy differentiation there. Coco takes place in Mexico. Ratatouille takes place in France. Frozen does not take place in Norway, and Aladdin does not take place in Morocco. Arendelle and Agrabah are entirely fictional just like Wakanda.
That's also why Mary Poppins somewhat fits in the UK (fits as well as Ratatotuille or Coco, that is). It takes place in London.
I personally still don't want any of those IPs in the World Showcase, but Frozen is worse than Ratatouille in those terms.
Congratulations on being baited into responding to an off-topic post meant to just rile things up. You've been riled! Enjoy your day!
yaksplat
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If true, that's the best news I've heard all day.
LittleBuford
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I still don’t fully understand why OLC’s decision has any bearing on what happens (or doesn’t happen) at WDW.
tirian
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Unfortunately, it would quickly become an over-glossy promo for movie marketing, and WDI would assume all guests have an unhealthy fixation with the WDC. (I’m not implying this about you!) Are all guests so obsessed with the movies that they would care about a theme park devoted to behind-the-scenes DVD bonus content? It already fell apart at the Studios.
It’s the path WDI is taking for all the parks, and at some point “ride the movies” isn’t exciting anymore. Universal already learned that lesson. Even though all their attractions are still based on IP, they’re no longer book reports.
Well, the counterpoint is that documentaries on the history, culture, and architecture of these pavilions are also available anywhere at anytime.
However, I'll agree that Wakanda doesn't belong in World Showcase as its own pavilion. At best, it can have an 'outpost' or M&G located in a pavilion that represents a real country like South Africa or D.R. Congo just like Norway has an Arandelle outpost or how Aladdin and Jasmine are visiting Morrocco from Agrabah.
Better yet, if there's to be an Wakanda, then DHS is the best place for it.
I would have definitely wanted actual Brazil and India, too.
To share cost.
UNCgolf
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I think it has to do with the money involved. Disney doesn't want to keep Song of the South in any of their parks because they don't want to be associated with it.
Disneyland and WDW's Splash Mountains are different, so whatever they design for Disneyland can't just be cloned into Disney World. The Splash Mountain in Tokyo basically is a clone of the one at WDW though, so they could do one design for both. Since OLC isn't interested in the PatF version, they'd want to design something else that can replace the Splash at both WDW and TDL instead of having to redesign PatF for WDW and also design something totally different for TDL to get rid of their Splash.
Easier to just design one thing that can work at both WDW and TDL.
LittleBuford
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I thought OLC owned the Tokyo resort in its entirely and paid for everything itself?